Willows Way Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 That had nothing to do with it the crowd was hot all the way thro the night except that match. It has nothing to do with the length of the show it has to do with the matches a. Being good and b. Giving reasons to care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeM Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 I think it's entirely possible it could be Charlotte/Rousey and Asuka/Becky at Mania. Charlotte's winning the Rumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 Was Seth and Dean that bad? I skipped it. Seems like that was a good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekka_No_Ryo Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 even vince was pissed at the dean/rollins match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willows Way Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 Was Seth and Dean that bad? I skipped it. Seems like that was a good move. It was solid but the crowd was dead and didnt care at all and chanted random shit and this is boring at it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 From what I read they did a by-the-book wrestling match and not a match between 2 blood rivals. Understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperThinWalls Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 From what I read they did a by-the-book wrestling match and not a match between 2 blood rivals. Understandable. Yup. Tbh I wouldn't bury the crowd too much. The match lacked intensity; it was very by-the-numbers. So I don't blame the fans reacting that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mani-Man Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 even vince was pissed at the dean/rollins match What did he expect when its booked like a standard Title match? What did the writers/bookers think with this match? They even used Reigns illness to make the feud more personal and gritty...what kind of lunatic then goes and decides that their PPV match should be your typical, soft...almost weekly like title match instead of a brutal brawl where everything goes? The match was not bad in terms of the pacing and wrestling itself, but it was like a match between two guys who had no personal feud going on between each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St★rstruck Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 I hate how fans are putting all the blame on Dean for the match being bad. If you've seen any of the matches Dean and Seth have had in the past, you'd know that they can put on some really good matches - and this just so happens to be the one match out of the million that ends up being boring. It's both of their faults. It's also WWE's fault for not booking this match with no sort of stipulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Hell Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 Yeah Rollins vs Ambrose could have been much better. It only took off when Rollins started getting emotional, more or less, and that was like the last 2 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ! Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 I hate how fans are putting all the blame on Dean for the match being bad. If you've seen any of the matches Dean and Seth have had in the past, you'd know that they can put on some really good matches - and this just so happens to be the one match out of the million that ends up being boring. It's both of their faults. It's also WWE's fault for not booking this match with no sort of stipulation. blame it on the bullshit weak ass ugly ass smelly ass bland ass buildup. im not mad at there not being a stipulation because assuming the feud continues, its better to start with a regular singles and work up to stipulations imo, and also like you said, these guys can have better matches than they did without a stipulation or gimmick. im pretty sure the matches they had at the beginning of the brand split back in 2016 were fire. im positive the next one will be better, and hopefully by then Dean will have a better idea of what he wants to be in the ring with this new character. Zayn and Ziggler had the same struggles initially when they turned heel and they eventually figured out. and thats not me blaming Dean either but im sure the uncertainty of his character plays a part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoee Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 I actually thought TLC was an overall success. The main event killed it but did anyone actually expect it not to?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperThinWalls Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 I blame Dean, Seth, and the agent for the match. For whatever reason they either failed to convey their ideas or, even worse, misunderstood what this feud is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St★rstruck Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 The psychology seemed off. It was a blood feud, but it almost resembled a regular match. Not a lot of brawling or frantic pacing that I would have expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushy. Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 Their original feud was so much better. Its funny because I thought when the roles were reversed itd be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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