maskedmaniac Posted August 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Ok guys everyone please have some respect for each other and not add to the tension that is already in the air. Would be a shame if this whole thread gets locked because of 2 or 3 people, ESPECIALLY right now since things are about to get real good with the investigation and criminal court cases and Everyone flipping on Trump and the man himself going more and more bonkers as the days go on. Elections in about 3 months people!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernez Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Ok guys everyone please have some respect for each other and not add to the tension that is already in the air. Would be a shame if this whole thread gets locked because of 2 or 3 people, ESPECIALLY right now since things are about to get real good with the investigation and criminal court cases and Everyone flipping on Trump and the man himself going more and more bonkers as the days go on. Elections in about 3 months people!!! Honestly I just got frustrated. I won't lock it. It wouldn't be fair. This thread gets reported every day almost, and I just don't know how to handle it. So help me out please, just debate and not call each other out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdon Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 What I'm curious about is why is this thread reported almost daily? lol. It's like 4 to 6 of us in here at any given time going back and forth. Yeah there is some sarcasm but every one of us are guilty so it's either one of us that dishes it out and can't take it or some other person reading it that's not getting involved and reporting something they don't like. Idk just seems a bit silly to me. These things get heated but it very rarely gets that out of hand that things need to be deleted in my opinion. Everyone in here knows what they are doing. It's better to let the person know why what they said was stupid than to report things and get things deleted (unless it was obviously offensive). It wasn't even that bad. This isn't exactly a topic that everyone wants to be involved in so it just seems silly. That said if you want us to tone down the sarcasm then all I can say is I'll try my best to do so. M3J's rhetoric and propaganda doesn't really help so there isn't a whole lot to say sometimes. I'll just do my best to ignore it or respond better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AONO. Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 well tbh it's probably because there is a lot of sarcasm and flamebating, and even if it is the same 5-6 people, it's very childish and gets in the way of the possible discussions. it's annoying to see childish posts. and thats not what this thread is supposed to be about... I mean whats the point then? so I totally get Ernez as a moderator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedmaniac Posted August 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Ive never been a fan of mods closing one thread because of 1 or 2 people, especially a popular thread like this one. Just ban the individuals and not the whole thread. With this said I trust these individuals which I wont name will curb their enthusiasm and get it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ! Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 ...you guys are talking about me arent you? JUST SAY IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdon Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 well tbh it's probably because there is a lot of sarcasm and flamebating, and even if it is the same 5-6 people, it's very childish and gets in the way of the possible discussions. it's annoying to see childish posts. and thats not what this thread is supposed to be about... I mean whats the point then? so I totally get Ernez as a moderator. I agree it can get in the way but we all do well when discussing an actual topic. Propaganda and generalized opinion posts end up being flamebait just the same and are the biggest problem to be honest. @EJ well since it's out there, yes, it's you. Sorry. We care about you and this is why we're here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AONO. Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 imo generalisation can be seen only as a bad argument in most cases, and that's it. not "propaganda". and I'm not talking in a general sense ofc, just in the context of this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdon Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Well given the definition of propaganda it is also a bad argument to make. If you want to make those statements that's fine but it can and should be responded too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AONO. Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 well... In his case I wouldn't call it systemic. or when you might use a generalisation. that' why I sais: " in the context of this thread". all I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdon Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 well... In his case I wouldn't call it systemic. or when you might use a generalisation. that' why I sais: " in the context of this thread". all I'm saying. I gotcha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernez Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Thanks for at least understanding everyone. Continue on lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M3J Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 What did I say that it deserved deletion? All I remember is pointing out that Trump supporters/the right will continue to support Trump as long as he's about making US a white, Christian nation where the left/liberals, immigrants, Muslims, and LGBT+ groups are segregated at best. While I likely generalized, as someone who lives in a red state, I see and hear tons of these hateful rhetorics. Hell, the main topic surrounding Mollie's death isn't that the killer couldn't handle rejection, but the fact that he's an illegal immigrant, as if only illegal immigrants can and have committed crimes, and not citizens and legal immigrants. Look at that, you figured it out all by yourself. Although I like how you essentially reposted what got deleted, clever on your part. In regards to your second paragraph, who is saying that only illegal immigrants can commit crimes? After an accident/tragedy/murder don't you look to see what the cause was and how it could of been prevented? Considering this person shouldn't have been in the country...i'd say stronger border control could have (note how I said 'could') have prevented this. Seriously, I deleted a whole page because of things like this. Although I do feel you're right why not report it instead of calling it out? You're basically flamebaiting. If this continues either you're all getting warned or I'm closing the topic. YOU CAN DEBATE WITHOUT CALLING EACH OTHER OUT. People has came into this topic, had debates and not said ONE thing out of context to one another. It's getting old and tiring tbh. I was asking you what was delete-worthy about what I said when I was just pointing out observations from tons of people, especially well-known personalities. What I'm curious about is why is this thread reported almost daily? lol. It's like 4 to 6 of us in here at any given time going back and forth. Yeah there is some sarcasm but every one of us are guilty so it's either one of us that dishes it out and can't take it or some other person reading it that's not getting involved and reporting something they don't like. Idk just seems a bit silly to me. These things get heated but it very rarely gets that out of hand that things need to be deleted in my opinion. Everyone in here knows what they are doing. It's better to let the person know why what they said was stupid than to report things and get things deleted (unless it was obviously offensive). It wasn't even that bad. This isn't exactly a topic that everyone wants to be involved in so it just seems silly. That said if you want us to tone down the sarcasm then all I can say is I'll try my best to do so. M3J's rhetoric and propaganda doesn't really help so there isn't a whole lot to say sometimes. I'll just do my best to ignore it or respond better. No need to label it as my "rhetoric and propaganda" when proof is out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernez Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 What did I say that it deserved deletion? All I remember is pointing out that Trump supporters/the right will continue to support Trump as long as he's about making US a white, Christian nation where the left/liberals, immigrants, Muslims, and LGBT+ groups are segregated at best. While I likely generalized, as someone who lives in a red state, I see and hear tons of these hateful rhetorics. Hell, the main topic surrounding Mollie's death isn't that the killer couldn't handle rejection, but the fact that he's an illegal immigrant, as if only illegal immigrants can and have committed crimes, and not citizens and legal immigrants. Look at that, you figured it out all by yourself. Although I like how you essentially reposted what got deleted, clever on your part. In regards to your second paragraph, who is saying that only illegal immigrants can commit crimes? After an accident/tragedy/murder don't you look to see what the cause was and how it could of been prevented? Considering this person shouldn't have been in the country...i'd say stronger border control could have (note how I said 'could') have prevented this. Seriously, I deleted a whole page because of things like this. Although I do feel you're right why not report it instead of calling it out? You're basically flamebaiting. If this continues either you're all getting warned or I'm closing the topic. YOU CAN DEBATE WITHOUT CALLING EACH OTHER OUT. People has came into this topic, had debates and not said ONE thing out of context to one another. It's getting old and tiring tbh. I was asking you what was delete-worthy about what I said when I was just pointing out observations from tons of people, especially well-known personalities. In any case, El Imperio is the worst offender, he just comes in and attacks the right wingers/right leaning with barely any point or argument. What I'm curious about is why is this thread reported almost daily? lol. It's like 4 to 6 of us in here at any given time going back and forth. Yeah there is some sarcasm but every one of us are guilty so it's either one of us that dishes it out and can't take it or some other person reading it that's not getting involved and reporting something they don't like. Idk just seems a bit silly to me. These things get heated but it very rarely gets that out of hand that things need to be deleted in my opinion. Everyone in here knows what they are doing. It's better to let the person know why what they said was stupid than to report things and get things deleted (unless it was obviously offensive). It wasn't even that bad. This isn't exactly a topic that everyone wants to be involved in so it just seems silly. That said if you want us to tone down the sarcasm then all I can say is I'll try my best to do so. M3J's rhetoric and propaganda doesn't really help so there isn't a whole lot to say sometimes. I'll just do my best to ignore it or respond better. No need to label it as my "rhetoric and propaganda" when proof is out there. Are you serious right now? Like forreal forreal? If you don't know any better, stay out of this topic. I have posted in big letters "YOU CAN DEBATE WITHOUT CALLING EACH OTHER OUT." If anyone can't understand what's the difference I don't know how else to explain. EDIT: Wait, I just looked and you had no deleted post...why are you upset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M3J Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Keyword is debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernez Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Keyword is debate You're arguing, not debating. You didn't even have a post deleted, so I don't understand why you're upset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M3J Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 I did have a post deleted.... But anyway, Trump says he'll legalize or try to legalize weed. Distraction tactic? Shame republicans tried to impeach Bill for lying about having an affair but won't do anything about Trump lying. I love how Trump, unlike Obama, is as unChristian as possible, and yet no one has complained about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernez Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 I did have a post deleted.... But anyway, Trump says he'll legalize or try to legalize weed. Distraction tactic? Shame republicans tried to impeach Bill for lying about having an affair but won't do anything about Trump lying. I love how Trump, unlike Obama, is as unChristian as possible, and yet no one has complained about him. Distract the media maybe. I think people are at the point nothing can distract them from what he's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M3J Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Most likely. Though, despite Sessions, some people seem to think Trump will try to legalize weed. Can't see that happening though if the politicians get money from pharmaceutical companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nWo_Kevin Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 Senator John McCain has died at 81. RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernez Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedmaniac Posted August 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 RIP. I will remember him best for not giving in to the hate when some crazy old lady said Obama was a Muslim as well as his thumbs down of Trumps not so beautiful health care plan. RIP. I will remember him best for not giving in to the hate when some crazy old lady said Obama was a Muslim as well as his thumbs down of Trumps not so beautiful health care plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 RIP to McCaine. As for Trump and weed...I think he only says things like that because he knows that it's already passing on the state level anyway, and it's a losing-battle that he can use in his favor to get voters for a second term. He's great at spinning losing battles to look like he planned it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Vercetti Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 RIP Senator McCain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ! Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 The best thing I will remember McCain for is coming to the floor from the hospital to thumbs down the healthcare repeal right to Mitch McConnells face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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