Generations Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Well the dude never got a serious push, it was always start stop for him and 50-50 booking, that makes it kinda hard to keep a steady momentum. Perfect example (IMO) of fans knowing less than WWE themselves. I know it seems like they fail people a lot of the time, but maybe...just maybe...they actually could see that Cesaro is not a great singles performer. And after seeing how well he does in tag teams, I'm inclined to agree. Cesaro has had some embarrassingly bad fumbles as a singles performer. I don't think those should be ignored just because we like him. If you need to hold a crowd and you completely fail on the mic to do that...it's actually a huge issue. Point being, what looks like "start and stop booking" to us, could very easily be WWE saying "we want to push this guy, but he isn't 100% where he needs to be". They give him a little push...he says or does something embarrassingly awkward, they pull the reigns back a bit. Hard concept for a fan of a guy to understand...but I really don't think they've been as rough on Cesaro as they could have been. They've bounced back and forth only because they know he's an amazing wrestler. If they didn't have that kind of respect for him, there would be no back and forth, he simply wouldn't be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardd Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Reigns has failed way harder as a singles performer. He's fumbled way more times than Cesario did. ...but yeah, I never saw Cesaro has a multi-time champion. I've always thought he'd be good in a Chris Benoit type role. Won the title once but only had a short reign. He's the same kind of performer imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Kazu Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Well the dude never got a serious push, it was always start stop for him and 50-50 booking, that makes it kinda hard to keep a steady momentum. Perfect example (IMO) of fans knowing less than WWE themselves. I know it seems like they fail people a lot of the time, but maybe...just maybe...they actually could see that Cesaro is not a great singles performer. And after seeing how well he does in tag teams, I'm inclined to agree. Cesaro has had some embarrassingly bad fumbles as a singles performer. I don't think those should be ignored just because we like him. If you need to hold a crowd and you completely fail on the mic to do that...it's actually a huge issue. Point being, what looks like "start and stop booking" to us, could very easily be WWE saying "we want to push this guy, but he isn't 100% where he needs to be". They give him a little push...he says or does something embarrassingly awkward, they pull the reigns back a bit. Hard concept for a fan of a guy to understand...but I really don't think they've been as rough on Cesaro as they could have been. They've bounced back and forth only because they know he's an amazing wrestler. If they didn't have that kind of respect for him, there would be no back and forth, he simply wouldn't be used. Cesaro not being a great singles performer is laughable. And tell me how great WWE's pushes and booking have been for them, they're flooded with huge stars, aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Cesaro not being a great singles performer is laughable. And tell me how great WWE's pushes and booking have been for them, they're flooded with huge stars, aren't they? Not in-ring. I even said right in that post that he is an amazing wrestler. He's not a great singles performer in the sense that his solo personality is not strong enough. He works in teams because he's dry and boring, and he usually gets paired with a guy who has a more colorful personality, and it just works. It becomes comical because they're polar opposites. He needs that comedy element...because he's not much without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 I've been excited for Mania for months now. Pretty much because it'll be the first event me and my pal host in our new place. Big TV, surround sound, more weed then we can handle and great company. It definitely helps when you have good company to watch the show with. It made last years shit show bearable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ! Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Yeah if WWE can push Reigns who is notoriously poop on the mic, Cesaro shouldn't be a problem. Cesaro does the short and sweet statements well enough. On top of that he's actually likable as a face and he's over as hell. They simply don't want to push him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Paul Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Roman has the charisma and presence that Cesaro doesn't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardd Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Roman has the charisma and presence that Cesaro doesn't have. Not really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Roman is related to the Rock. Cesaro is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardd Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Roman is related to the Rock. Cesaro is not. Got me there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willows Way Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Roman has the charisma and presence that Cesaro doesn't have. Presence maybe but Charisma? Absolutely not. Cesaro could easily out promo Roman wether on or off the cuff. Hes not amazing at it but hes good. Roman is barely solid and thats when hes trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Paul Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Cesaro couldn't show any intensity if he tried. The promo that Roman cut on Raw this week- imagine Cesaro trying a promo like that. Roman can simply look at a crowd and they'll go nuts- Cesaro isn't that kind of performer. Roman can get away with crappy promos because people get a kick out of them- Cesaro's "4 ropes" promo was just not good to watch...at all. You can make the exact same comparison between The Usos and American Alpha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St★rstruck Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 ...Nor was Roman's Jack and The Beanstalk promo, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardd Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 ...Nor was Roman's Jack and The Beanstalk promo, lol. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ! Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Honestly the whole Rock's cousin thing seems like the only plausible reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Paul Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Well I didn't say Roman has never had insufferable promos- he has. But he's also had some good ones. And he's also had "so bad that it was enjoyable" promos. Cesaro hasn't had any of those. And it's hard to imagine him ever having any of those- unless he decides to just rip someone on the mic in his first language (as far as I know English is not his first language) where he sounds more natural and less robotic. But as it is, he's not as good as Roman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E#37 Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Well I didn't say Roman has never had insufferable promos- he has. But he's also had some good ones. And he's also had "so bad that it was enjoyable" promos. Cesaro hasn't had any of those. And it's hard to imagine him ever having any of those- unless he decides to just rip someone on the mic in his first language (as far as I know English is not his first language) where he sounds more natural and less robotic. But as it is, he's not as good as Roman. 4 ropes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Paul Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Well I didn't say Roman has never had insufferable promos- he has. But he's also had some good ones. And he's also had "so bad that it was enjoyable" promos. Cesaro hasn't had any of those. And it's hard to imagine him ever having any of those- unless he decides to just rip someone on the mic in his first language (as far as I know English is not his first language) where he sounds more natural and less robotic. But as it is, he's not as good as Roman. 4 ropes Hmm, did people enjoy that one? I found it very awkward and painful to watch at the time, though I can definitely see why people get a kick of that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ! Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 "Cesaro hasn't had any of those" because he doesn't get any mic time I gotta watch it again but I'm pretty sure "4 ropes" was the only actual bad thing about that promo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Cesaro has lost his direction in promos more times than I can count. The 4 ropes fumble might be the only one that is classically humorous...but he has been directionless in promos time and time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ! Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 If they were smart they would seriously run with the James Bond Swiss Hitman character he's made for himself. Start selling Cesaro brand shades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Paul Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Cesaro's stiff ass is too rigid to be Bond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ! Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 They just confirmed Tian Bing a.k.a Bin Wang for the Battle Royal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Paul Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 I can't wait for when crowds eventually chant "Bin Wang! Bin Wang! Bin Wang!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Meh...wish I hadn't read that. Might have been an interesting surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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