The Walking Dead Discussion

[Beardd]

Yeah it's how they showed it. I was so confused at first.

[Jeb ★]

It was a WTF moment for sure.

[Generations]

I completely missed the shot when it happened. When I watched the second time, I could see the bullet in the bat for a brief second. Definitely an initially confusing scene. Also, I kinda wish she'd actually shot him...just not somewhere lethal.

 

 

If she'd popped him in the shoulder or something, it would have at least felt like a small victory...and perhaps exposed Negan as "being able to bleed" as they say. I think that would have been a better scene to motivate the group and get them into this "we need to fight back" mentality...because it would have exposed a weakness in Negan and inspired hope. Instead, they just used the whole "we are the ones who live" nonsense.

 

[Creepia]

I completely missed the shot when it happened. When I watched the second time, I could see the bullet in the bat for a brief second. Definitely an initially confusing scene. Also, I kinda wish she'd actually shot him...just not somewhere lethal.

 

 

If she'd popped him in the shoulder or something, it would have at least felt like a small victory...and perhaps exposed Negan as "being able to bleed" as they say. I think that would have been a better scene to motivate the group and get them into this "we need to fight back" mentality...because it would have exposed a weakness in Negan and inspired hope. Instead, they just used the whole "we are the ones who live" nonsense.

 

 

Yeah maybe the bullet grazing his arm would have been better. I like that idea. I think it's a comic scene though so, that's probably why they went with the bullet-bat.

[TheHavoc]

 

I completely missed the shot when it happened. When I watched the second time, I could see the bullet in the bat for a brief second. Definitely an initially confusing scene. Also, I kinda wish she'd actually shot him...just not somewhere lethal.

 

 

If she'd popped him in the shoulder or something, it would have at least felt like a small victory...and perhaps exposed Negan as "being able to bleed" as they say. I think that would have been a better scene to motivate the group and get them into this "we need to fight back" mentality...because it would have exposed a weakness in Negan and inspired hope. Instead, they just used the whole "we are the ones who live" nonsense.

 

 

Yeah maybe the bullet grazing his arm would have been better. I like that idea. I think it's a comic scene though so, that's probably why they went with the bullet-bat.

 

Which for me is a problem.They seem to push the comic quotes too much on the show..

Like many things Negan says on the show are exactly like they were on the comics and for me it feels forced.I get that some of them are iconic but damn not all of them.

[Creepia]

 

 

I completely missed the shot when it happened. When I watched the second time, I could see the bullet in the bat for a brief second. Definitely an initially confusing scene. Also, I kinda wish she'd actually shot him...just not somewhere lethal.

 

 

If she'd popped him in the shoulder or something, it would have at least felt like a small victory...and perhaps exposed Negan as "being able to bleed" as they say. I think that would have been a better scene to motivate the group and get them into this "we need to fight back" mentality...because it would have exposed a weakness in Negan and inspired hope. Instead, they just used the whole "we are the ones who live" nonsense.

 

 

Yeah maybe the bullet grazing his arm would have been better. I like that idea. I think it's a comic scene though so, that's probably why they went with the bullet-bat.

 

Which for me is a problem.They seem to push the comic quotes too much on the show..

Like many things Negan says on the show are exactly like they were on the comics and for me it feels forced.I get that some of them are iconic but damn not all of them.

 

 

Have you read them? Because what Negan says on the show is quite a bit different. They use imaginative lines on the show because they can't have him swear as much. His iconic lines are really only the same ones.

[TheHavoc]

 

 

 

I completely missed the shot when it happened. When I watched the second time, I could see the bullet in the bat for a brief second. Definitely an initially confusing scene. Also, I kinda wish she'd actually shot him...just not somewhere lethal.

 

 

If she'd popped him in the shoulder or something, it would have at least felt like a small victory...and perhaps exposed Negan as "being able to bleed" as they say. I think that would have been a better scene to motivate the group and get them into this "we need to fight back" mentality...because it would have exposed a weakness in Negan and inspired hope. Instead, they just used the whole "we are the ones who live" nonsense.

 

 

Yeah maybe the bullet grazing his arm would have been better. I like that idea. I think it's a comic scene though so, that's probably why they went with the bullet-bat.

 

Which for me is a problem.They seem to push the comic quotes too much on the show..

Like many things Negan says on the show are exactly like they were on the comics and for me it feels forced.I get that some of them are iconic but damn not all of them.

 

 

Have you read them? Because what Negan says on the show is quite a bit different. They use imaginative lines on the show because they can't have him swear as much. His iconic lines are really only the same ones.

 

I have read quite a few.I guess I must be wrong then.

Also like you mentioned he swears a lot.Which is weird for the TV show to have him use words like dick,pussy etc. and then have Rick deliver that iconic line a few seasons back (the finale of Season 4 I believe).

"They are messing with the wrong people"

Damn he cracked me up when he said that.

[PaperThinWalls]

Yeah maybe the bullet grazing his arm would have been better. I like that idea. I think it's a comic scene though so, that's probably why they went with the bullet-bat.

Kind of. The basic premise of Lucille being shot is the same but everything else -- the surrounding circumstances, the people involved, the actual damage sustained -- is different. In a funny twist, the comic is more believable and less silly.

 

Here's the page:

 

 

[Creepia]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I completely missed the shot when it happened. When I watched the second time, I could see the bullet in the bat for a brief second. Definitely an initially confusing scene. Also, I kinda wish she'd actually shot him...just not somewhere lethal.

 

 

If she'd popped him in the shoulder or something, it would have at least felt like a small victory...and perhaps exposed Negan as "being able to bleed" as they say. I think that would have been a better scene to motivate the group and get them into this "we need to fight back" mentality...because it would have exposed a weakness in Negan and inspired hope. Instead, they just used the whole "we are the ones who live" nonsense.

 

Yeah maybe the bullet grazing his arm would have been better. I like that idea. I think it's a comic scene though so, that's probably why they went with the bullet-bat.

Which for me is a problem.They seem to push the comic quotes too much on the show..

Like many things Negan says on the show are exactly like they were on the comics and for me it feels forced.I get that some of them are iconic but damn not all of them.

Have you read them? Because what Negan says on the show is quite a bit different. They use imaginative lines on the show because they can't have him swear as much. His iconic lines are really only the same ones.

I have read quite a few.I guess I must be wrong then.

Also like you mentioned he swears a lot.Which is weird for the TV show to have him use words like dick,pussy etc. and then have Rick deliver that iconic line a few seasons back (the finale of Season 4 I believe).

"They are messing with the wrong people"

Damn he cracked me up when he said that.

Rick said "screwing" which doesn't sound as bad to me imo.

 

Yeah maybe the bullet grazing his arm would have been better. I like that idea. I think it's a comic scene though so, that's probably why they went with the bullet-bat.

Kind of. The basic premise of Lucille being shot is the same but everything else -- the surrounding circumstances, the people involved, the actual damage sustained -- is different. In a funny twist, the comic is more believable and less silly.

 

Here's the page:

 

Yeah i meant the bullet in the bat is a thing from the comics. Not the entirety of the scene, I thought it was a decent scene though.

[Shindol]

Not only here and not only TWD but I see a lot of people complaining constantly about shows they watch. It's as if they feel like they have no option but to watch.

[Beardd]

Not only here and not only TWD but I see a lot of people complaining constantly about shows they watch. It's as if they feel like they have no option but to watch.

People complain about everything in general.

[Generations]

Not only here and not only TWD but I see a lot of people complaining constantly about shows they watch. It's as if they feel like they have no option but to watch.

 

Dissecting and discussing is hardly "complaining"...and people have done it about shows since there were shows to watch...and they did it about books and plays before that.

[Creepia]

Not only here and not only TWD but I see a lot of people complaining constantly about shows they watch. It's as if they feel like they have no option but to watch.

If you're invested in something you have every reason to complain. TWD has its flaws and people recognise them. It's allowed. People are allowed to want things to be better.

[-O_D-]

My thing is this tho...what will Negan do when he gets back to the Sanctuary and find out Daryl is gone? They now have Eugene, so will they torture and threaten Rick's group with him?

[Creepia]

Yeah probably.

[PaperThinWalls]

The Walking Dead Producers Toned Down Violence After Season Premiere Backlash

 

MIAMI The Walking Dead producers toned down some of the violence in the first half of season seven after strong viewer backlash to a gruesome killing scene in the season opener.

 

Walking Dead exec producer Gale Anne Hurd acknowledged Wednesday that the negative response to the bludgeon slayings of two key characters in the premiere prompted producers to make adjustments in episodes that were still in production at the time of the Oct. 23 season premiere.

 

We were able to look at the feedback on the level of violence, Hurd said during a panel session at the NATPE conference. We did tone it down for episodes we were still filming for later on in the season.

 

Hurd spoke on a panel with AMC Networks president-CEO Josh Sapan and Fear the Walking Dead star Colman Domingo, moderated by Michael Schneider, executive editor of Indiewire and editor at large for Variety.

 

The season premiere closed with a lengthy scene that featured the villain Negan beating longtime fan favorites Glenn and Abraham to death with a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire. Many critics said the combination of visuals and audio elements veered too far into gratuitous territory, even given the shows history of presenting shocking material.

 

Hurd made it clear that the response made an impact on the production team.

 

This is not a show that is torture porn, she said. After the response to the finale, she said they gave strong consideration to making sure we dont cross that line.

 

Sapan and Hurd also noted that the extreme reaction to the season premiere underscored how deeply fans care about the show.

 

When something matters a lot and it has a universality, then youre bothered by it and you care about it, Sapan said.

 

Hurd remarked that she still marvels at Walking Deads trajectory as a series in becoming the top-rated scripted series in all of primetime, broadcast, or cable. Hurd had no such expectations when the first season was coming together. We thought this will be a good solid double, she said.

 

Because a show about a zombie apocalypse was a such a departure for AMC, Sapan admitted that he went around to eight or so comic book stores in New York City to ask people what they thought were the best renditions of zombies in comics.

 

Hurd admitted that when AMC first suggested the notion of the Talking Dead after-show, she thought it would never work.

 

All of us said, Youre kidding. People are going to watch a show where people talk about what theyve just seen? Thats absurd,' Hurd recalled. She called the move absolutely brilliant and not something we as creatives on the drama side could have ever anticipated.

 

Domingo, who is also an accomplished playwright, said the profile he now has as an actor from being on Fear the Walking Dead has been eye-opening. I love that people are so passionate about the show. They tell you how they feel, he said. Domingo added that he enjoys using social media tools like Periscope to give fans a glimpse behind the scenes of Fear. I want the fans to have that sort of access to know what were creating for them, he said.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/the-walking-dead-gale-anne-hurd-colman-domingo-josh-sapan-1201962566/

[TheHavoc]

The Walking Dead Producers Toned Down Violence After Season Premiere Backlash

 

MIAMI The Walking Dead producers toned down some of the violence in the first half of season seven after strong viewer backlash to a gruesome killing scene in the season opener.

 

Walking Dead exec producer Gale Anne Hurd acknowledged Wednesday that the negative response to the bludgeon slayings of two key characters in the premiere prompted producers to make adjustments in episodes that were still in production at the time of the Oct. 23 season premiere.

 

We were able to look at the feedback on the level of violence, Hurd said during a panel session at the NATPE conference. We did tone it down for episodes we were still filming for later on in the season.

 

Hurd spoke on a panel with AMC Networks president-CEO Josh Sapan and Fear the Walking Dead star Colman Domingo, moderated by Michael Schneider, executive editor of Indiewire and editor at large for Variety.

 

The season premiere closed with a lengthy scene that featured the villain Negan beating longtime fan favorites Glenn and Abraham to death with a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire. Many critics said the combination of visuals and audio elements veered too far into gratuitous territory, even given the shows history of presenting shocking material.

 

Hurd made it clear that the response made an impact on the production team.

 

This is not a show that is torture porn, she said. After the response to the finale, she said they gave strong consideration to making sure we dont cross that line.

 

Sapan and Hurd also noted that the extreme reaction to the season premiere underscored how deeply fans care about the show.

 

When something matters a lot and it has a universality, then youre bothered by it and you care about it, Sapan said.

 

Hurd remarked that she still marvels at Walking Deads trajectory as a series in becoming the top-rated scripted series in all of primetime, broadcast, or cable. Hurd had no such expectations when the first season was coming together. We thought this will be a good solid double, she said.

 

Because a show about a zombie apocalypse was a such a departure for AMC, Sapan admitted that he went around to eight or so comic book stores in New York City to ask people what they thought were the best renditions of zombies in comics.

 

Hurd admitted that when AMC first suggested the notion of the Talking Dead after-show, she thought it would never work.

 

All of us said, Youre kidding. People are going to watch a show where people talk about what theyve just seen? Thats absurd,' Hurd recalled. She called the move absolutely brilliant and not something we as creatives on the drama side could have ever anticipated.

 

Domingo, who is also an accomplished playwright, said the profile he now has as an actor from being on Fear the Walking Dead has been eye-opening. I love that people are so passionate about the show. They tell you how they feel, he said. Domingo added that he enjoys using social media tools like Periscope to give fans a glimpse behind the scenes of Fear. I want the fans to have that sort of access to know what were creating for them, he said.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/the-walking-dead-gale-anne-hurd-colman-domingo-josh-sapan-1201962566/

 

[Beardd]

*censored*ing bullshit. This infuriates me.

[Creepia]

Man it's as if people are watching a mature rated zombie apocalypse show.

 

People *censored*ing suck.

[Generations]

Remember when people just didn't watch shit they didn't like? Pepperidge Farms remembers...

[PaperThinWalls]

It's unfortunate when nonsense like this happens. It stifles creativity.

[Oresama]

The mid-season premiere was alright...

 

 

...the first half of the episode dragged a but. Still not digging Ezekiel or the Kingdom, Richard's cool though. Michonne and Rick mowing down the herd was great and it's always good to see more Simon.

 

Did anyone else think Eric looked really different in this episode? I actually had to look it up, it's the same guy though.

 

[Beardd]

The Father Gabriel stuff interests me the most.

[Generations]

Pretty "meh" start...but I guess it was bound to be.

 

Steven Ogg is probably the highlight of this show for me right now. I really love that guy.

[Creepia]

Enjoyed the episode. Glad things are finally starting to ramp up in regards to The Kingdom and everyone else.

 

Father Gabriel;

 

Did anyone else notice the guy sitting up in the back of the car as he drove away? Because I certainly didn't lmao. Not on my first viewing anyway. I imagine Rick's possibly smiling at him at the end there.