OPC Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 I don't understand why everyone harps on about stuff like this, Jericho made a name for himself outside wcw, when he was working with x-pac in wwf, sure probably pac had more pull than Jericho, but like Jericho isn't gonna just walk into a company and be like...I don't wanna work with x-pac, I want Austin and rock. And as for hall everyone knows he was ass in those days, again...look who's more relevant now Jericho...you or Scott hall, the guy hasn't wrestled in years. Man Jericho is really putting me off him in the past few years, he was guarded, but with his podcast he's free to do what he wants, and I think that's the problem. Uhh..ass in what days? Wcw days? Him Nash and hogan Well..you're entitled to your opinion on them but no. "Everybody" didn't think that considering how over they were night in and night out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NostalgiaGod Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 I'm willing to bet Hall and Nash could've been switched out and kept Hogan and NWO would've thrived regardless. Just my belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 I'm willing to bet Hall and Nash could've been switched out and kept Hogan and NWO would've thrived regardless. Just my belief. I think it is more the other way around tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V to I Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Without the Outsiders there wouldn't have been an nWo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E#37 Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 I'm willing to bet Hall and Nash could've been switched out and kept Hogan and NWO would've thrived regardless. Just my belief. I think you got that switched around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNFNS Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Without the Outsiders there wouldn't have been an nWo. Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NostalgiaGod Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 More like opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 More like opinion. They're THE creators of the nWo gimmick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E#37 Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 More like opinion. They were the creators of the nWo, how can it be opinion when it's them that made the stable in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NostalgiaGod Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 It became the NWO when the three of them banded together. They were The Outsiders before Hogan turned heel. Hogan clearly said in his heel promo this was "the New World Order". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 It became the NWO when the three of them banded together. They were The Outsiders before Hogan turned heel. Hogan clearly said in his heel promo this was "the New World Order". The Outsiders - as a Tag-Team - already had the gimmick of Invaders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NostalgiaGod Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 The term NWO was not mentioned until the three of them stood in the ring and Hogan cut his promo. Then they became he NWO. I don't get what is confusing about what I'm saying. They were not known as the NWO when they invaded WCW. Like, seriously.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 The term NWO was not mentioned until the three of them stood in the ring and Hogan cut his promo. Then they became he NWO. I don't get what is confusing about what I'm saying. They were not known as the NWO when they invaded WCW. Like, seriously.... Yeah...but what has that to do with what you were saying orginially o.o You said Nash & Hall were exchangable, which they weren't. Because they were the founders of the nWo. It doesn't matter who said the words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NostalgiaGod Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 If any other two jumped ship as invaders and Hogan later joined them, they would still be as huge and popular. That's exactly what I said. And that's exactly what I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E#37 Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 If any other two jumped ship as invaders and Hogan later joined them, they would still be as huge and popular. That's exactly what I said. And that's exactly what I believe. Hogan wasn't considered "cool" anymore at that time, i highly doubt that without Hall and Nash the nWo would have been the IT thing it became. Hall and Nash were the cool factor of the nWo, without them it would have just been a Hogan led stable that noone would have given a damn about in matter of months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPC Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 If any other two jumped ship as invaders and Hogan later joined them, they would still be as huge and popular. That's exactly what I said. And that's exactly what I believe. Hogan wasn't considered "cool" anymore at that time, i highly doubt that without Hall and Nash the nWo would have been the IT thing it became. Hall and Nash were the cool factor of the nWo, without them it would have just been a Hogan led stable that noone would have given a damn about in matter of months. exactly. Hall and Nash were liked because people thought they were cool as hell..so no they can't be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NostalgiaGod Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Maybe, maybe not. Whose to say? We'll never know. But speaking for me, which I've done this whole time. But agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPC Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Either way the fact remains that many people enjoyed them both in WCW. Within the nWo and as individuals. Getting back on topic: Atleast Xpac (if thats his real account) appears to have responded to Jericho and explained himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M3J Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 The hatred for Nash and Hall is so petty, man. Claiming nWo would be big without Hall or Nash is like saying DX would be big without Triple H or New Age Outlaws. like, wtf? And I hate Nash and Hall as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost. Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Define a pretty big deal? Because he was a former IC champion a few times? Like...what? Well the fact is he's known as one of, if not the best ever to never be a world champion. That's a pretty big deal in itself. As far as I know he's also the first "cool" heel in pro wrestling, a trend that lives on today. Jack Swagger is a former world champion and US Champion, does that mean he's a bigger deal than Scott Hall? Shut up. Bruh just take the loss and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPC Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Some people can't accept that something is/was actually popular without the addition of their support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatsIncredible Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 I don't understand why everyone harps on about stuff like this, Jericho made a name for himself outside wcw, when he was working with x-pac in wwf, sure probably pac had more pull than Jericho, but like Jericho isn't gonna just walk into a company and be like...I don't wanna work with x-pac, I want Austin and rock. And as for hall everyone knows he was ass in those days, again...look who's more relevant now Jericho...you or Scott hall, the guy hasn't wrestled in years. Man Jericho is really putting me off him in the past few years, he was guarded, but with his podcast he's free to do what he wants, and I think that's the problem. Uhh..ass in what days? Wcw days? Him Nash and hogan Well..you're entitled to your opinion on them but no. "Everybody" didn't think that considering how over they were night in and night out. I'm not doubting that. They were over, I didn't say they weren't , just it's been well documented about their backstage politicing. I just don't get why Jericho still feels the need to say something that people already knew, and that he is still butthurt about it, if anything Jericho went on to be much more successful and have a much longer career than they did, that's all I really meant by that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crack. Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Define a pretty big deal? Because he was a former IC champion a few times? Like...what? Well the fact is he's known as one of, if not the best ever to never be a world champion. That's a pretty big deal in itself. As far as I know he's also the first "cool" heel in pro wrestling, a trend that lives on today. Jack Swagger is a former world champion and US Champion, does that mean he's a bigger deal than Scott Hall? Shut up.Bruh just take the loss and move on. Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NostalgiaGod Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 The funny thing is that's not why I told Brahma to shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 I'm sure seeing the New World Order and DX at WrestleMania 31 brought back a lot of bad memories for many of wrestlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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