RVD 4:20 Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 If I murder someone, go to jail, and escape, law enforcement that finds me will throw me back in. If I did illegal drugs and was caught for it by the police, then I may be temporarily jailed, put into some sort of rehabilitation program, and given another chance to prove that I can stay clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porkchop Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 He obviously wasn't banned for porn from two years, he was banned for being doG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.N. Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Jesus christ... What's indicative of not wanting to be here in posting controversial topics? You're assuming -alot-, even if he didn't wanna be here, that doesn't mean he should get banned "Oh, he doesn't seem to like it here, might aswell do him a solid and kick him off". That's incredibly silly, man. "doG made his bed two years ago, he has to lay in it now". God damn, forgive and forget, eh? He hasn't done anything warranting a ban for 2 years, and he gets the shove over something like that? That'd be like giving me a signature-size warning because you found out I had an oversized one two years ago. x_x If I made a report against someone for something that happened more than 2 years ago, you'd all tell me to go suck an exhaust, you'd tell me I was taking stuff too seriously, stuff I should've let go by now. I'm not saying I entirely agree with it. Only that it isn't difficult to understand and justify why it's been done. I didn't mean that controversial topics means that doG didn't want to be here. However, his attitude towards the community isn't exactly going to make anyone on the staff feel that there is reason to bring him back. Besides that, he was flaming quite often and got away on several occasions without being warned when he should have been. Also, signature rules and posting graphic images are two very different offenses to be made. doG did something that makes it understandable to keep him off the forum. That's not the staff's fault, that's his. There seems to be a misconception that doG hated everybody here. He liked it here, he came here every day and talked and discussed. He wasn't all flaming and black hatred, he posted alot in the entertainment section aswell. I know doG posted porn, and that it's a silly thing to do, we agree on that, and it was a fault of his own. I'm gonna play the a fault that happened 2+ years ago card again. He hasn't since, so he must've learned his lesson. There's profanity everywhere on this site, written and graphic. People getting decked in the Pics o' the day, people bypassing the censor with swear-words, people openly discussing their first sexual encounter, how often and how frequently. I posted a lengthy description on why i liked a blowjob orgasm more than a banging one, you see? >_>. There is so much shit on the same scale getting tossed around here by everyone that just seems to fly on the count of them not being doG. Just yesterday a member of staff stinked up a thread with a personal debate, all flaming and swear-words and inane squabbling. My point is, if you set aside the fact that doG did something ban-worthy 2 years ago, then there's not really a solid ban-worthy case against him. You could throw half the user-base out on the same accounts. There are very few words that are censored. Chances are stuff you're seeing is fine to post anyway. What it really comes down to is rules. You can't post porn, you can talk about certain other mature subjects within reason, and the line for that reason is at any individual staff member's discretion who is reading it. Can it all be considered graphic? Yes. However here, porn gets you banned, and all of the other stuff you mentioned doesn't. At the end of the day, doG is banned, and I highly doubt he will be unbanned. If I murder someone, go to jail, and escape, law enforcement that finds me will throw me back in. If I did illegal drugs and was caught for it by the police, then I may be temporarily jailed, put into some sort of rehabilitation program, and given another chance to prove that I can stay clean. It all comes down to what is a greater offense. Posting porn on any forum is pretty much in the top group of things you can do that will guarantee the staff will never let you come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Tristany* Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 if he posted porn 2+ years ago under a differant account and was banned BUT pretty much followed site rules using his doG persona doesn't this prove he's learnt his lesson in some way. Granted he could be get pretty passionate in some of his posts but he was the minority of people who wrote decent debates and anyone and everyone deserves a second chance . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVD 4:20 Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 if he posted porn 2+ years ago under a differant account and was banned BUT pretty much followed site rules using his doG persona doesn't this prove he's learnt his lesson in some way. Granted he could be get pretty passionate in some of his posts but he was the minority of people who wrote decent debates and anyone and everyone deserves a second chance . Plus, it's not as if he's come back to troll. Members don't want him back for a laugh or anything, we would like to see doG back because he brought up many interesting topics, and viewpoints, which garnered good discussions in the most part. It'll be a shame if doG stays banned, but I guess that's the way the cookie crumbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muur Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 If you miss his topics, why doesn't someone else take the inicitive and create the interesting topics themselves?, It'll be like he was never gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyder78 Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 NVM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuse Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 If I murder someone, go to jail, and escape, law enforcement that finds me will throw me back in. If I did illegal drugs and was caught for it by the police, then I may be temporarily jailed, put into some sort of rehabilitation program, and given another chance to prove that I can stay clean. What you are comparing it to isn't the same thing. If you are given a second chance with rehabilitation, that would be like doG/Teryo asking for a second chance. He never asked. What he did in jail terms was break out of jail, get plastic surgery on his face, change his identity and pretend to be someone new. Now if investigators discovered such a man, he wouldn't be able to say, "I have been given a second chance. I am better now." He would immediately be thrown back in jail. Do I think people should be given a second chance? Yes. Most definitely. But most people don't go about it the right way. They take it in their own hands to create a new account. That is why they get banned. As I said earlier in the thread. Email the admin. Second chances have been given before. Most people don't even try. If you miss his topics, why doesn't someone else take the inicitive and create the interesting topics themselves?, It'll be like he was never gone. This, this, this and more this. People are acting like General Chat is dead now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustacio Posted April 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 If you miss his topics, why doesn't someone else take the inicitive and create the interesting topics themselves?, It'll be like he was never gone. This, this, this and more this. People are acting like General Chat is dead now. In all fairness, that's not how things work, guys. That's saying every forum member is easily interchangable. The fact of the matter is that no-one else here was like doG, that's the reason all the shit started in the first place, because he's different. So saying we can just post our own topics is slightly silly, there's only one doG, just like there's only one Fuse and one Muur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuse Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 I agree with that, but I'm simply saying that there can still be controversial topics without doG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy. Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 He should remain banned simply because he was already a previously banned member. It doesn't matter if its been 2 years or 5 years or so.If you murder someone and haven't been convicted the case never shuts.It even goes for 20 years or even more if it has to,until justice is granted.On any forum,returning after being banned is against the rules.You deserve to be punished. If a mod unbans doG now,there will be so many new doGs born on this site who even after being banned would return with a second account and would give doG's reason of ignoring the fact that they are (a) returning banned member(s).That could destroy the image of the site completely. For that reason,he should remain banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyder78 Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 If a mod unbans doG now,there will be so many new doGs born on this site who even after being banned would return with a second account and would give doG's reason of ignoring the fact that they are (a) returning banned member(s).That could destroy the image of the site completely. For that reason,he should remain banned. SIGH, There have been a slew of banned members who have come back under aliases before doG and some of them got caught and some are still around. Keeping doG banned it not gonna make one iota of a difference about that issue in the slightest. Also that is completely ridiculous that and that alone will give this forum a bad name too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustacio Posted April 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Why does everyone keep comparing doG's banning to a murder case? That's a really out there analogy >_>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVD 4:20 Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Why does everyone keep comparing doG's banning to a murder case? That's a really out there analogy >_>. I know, just what I was thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stenis Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Because this is obviously srs bsns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Tristany* Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 the worst thing doG could have done was have an alternate account I have counted 2 users who have done so the past month one of whom was HILARIOUS but thats not the point. both are still active Banned members have been allowed back thats been proven already . Allowing some who contribute to the CAW section a 2nd chance is allowed but a guy from general chat is not that seems wrong IMO it seems the guy had learnt his lesson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuse Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Have you not read any of the posts in this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernez Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 the worst thing doG could have done was have an alternate account I have counted 2 users who have done so the past month one of whom was HILARIOUS but thats not the point. both are still active Banned members have been allowed back thats been proven already . Allowing some who contribute to the CAW section a 2nd chance is allowed but a guy from general chat is not that seems wrong IMO it seems the guy had learnt his lesson I'm only going to type this one more time. The other members allowed back, all they did was flame or something. doG posted pornographic images. There is a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Tristany* Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 doG posted pornographic images. There is a difference. understandable but he posted those 2+ years ago why delay his ban that long it was common knowledge he was a former banned member. i will admit i didn't know the reason until this topic was opened though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.N. Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Why does everyone keep comparing doG's banning to a murder case? That's a really out there analogy >_>. Not really. doG posted pornographic images. There is a difference. understandable but he posted those 2+ years ago why delay his ban that long it was common knowledge he was a former banned member. i will admit i didn't know the reason until this topic was opened though You seem to be misunderstanding something. He didn't get banned two years ago and then the day after make an account and be here for two years. He only came back sometime in 2009 and only started really actively posting this year. It wasn't as common knowledge as you think that doG was formerly banned. People only started mentioning it left and right recently. The staff doesn't have microchips in our necks that alert us when a banned member comes back. We have to manually check so there has to be reason for us to even suspect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Tristany* Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 You seem to be misunderstanding something. He didn't get banned two years ago and then the day after make an account and be here for two years. He only came back sometime in 2009 and only started really actively posting this year. It wasn't as common knowledge as you think that doG was formerly banned. People only started mentioning it left and right recently. The staff doesn't have microchips in our necks that alert us when a banned member comes back. We have to manually check so there has to be reason for us to even suspect it. I'm not saying the moderation staff is poor i respect you guys a lot I moderate on another forum and it can get pretty tense . could he plead his case if he were allowed to a mod ? its allowed where i moderate if the member makes a succesful plea there given a 3 month trial do you have similar rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.......... Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 You seem to be misunderstanding something. He didn't get banned two years ago and then the day after make an account and be here for two years. He only came back sometime in 2009 and only started really actively posting this year. It wasn't as common knowledge as you think that doG was formerly banned. People only started mentioning it left and right recently. The staff doesn't have microchips in our necks that alert us when a banned member comes back. We have to manually check so there has to be reason for us to even suspect it. I'm not saying the moderation staff is poor i respect you guys a lot I moderate on another forum and it can get pretty tense . could he plead his case if he were allowed to a mod ? its allowed where i moderate if the member makes a succesful plea there given a 3 month trial do you have similar rules? Yes I think you can, but doG threw that right out the window when he made another account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Z.A.K Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Not to be an A**hole but do you know this guy? that you care so much about him? BTW .... By comparing a real life crime to a Ban on a Forum is SAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porkchop Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 The whole "posting porn = murder" thing is a little ridiculous and I honestly can't believe the staff of all people are using it. R U SRS GUYZ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolfan. Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Alright seriously, lets just finish this he was caught as a previously banned member, so in all fairness he was banned, once your banned for good your not coming back, over and done with. If you feel that's not fair well I'm sorry that's the rules, and if you feel there are members here that have been banned and are still around well then feel free to point them out. Not trying to be an asshole but we could argue forever and nothings ever going to change that's the bottom line. It gets us nowhere to time to close this thread and move on with our lives. *Finished no more arguing* CLOSED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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