Nike The Bike Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 I was simulating some matches and noticed that the wrestlers almost never finishes the matches with their finishers. Instead they always cover after their favourites and thereby making the favourite the "default" finisher... Anyone know if this is possible to solve someway or if the game "AI" is just broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutoh Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Yep. Only people that don't do it are Cena, Taker, and Kane. It's bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike The Bike Posted September 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Yes that's really stupid. It means I'll probably have to set the finisher also as favourites for those characters that don't have "multiple" finishers. Unless I can copy the AI from the guys you mentioned someway......or find favourites that don't end in the opponent lying on the floor... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambar_hitman Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Yeah, its stupid. The commentators also say its all Over when you hit the signatures. I mean how can it be all over when I hit 5 Knuckle Shuffle or Orton Stomp or HHH face buster. Its really stupid AI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike The Bike Posted September 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Man, the developers of this game really hasn't simmed many matches to make sure the computer acts realistically. That's obvious. The simmed matches very very rarely end by finishers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brienj Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 [quote name='Nike The Bike' timestamp='1285020436' post='7578781'] I was simulating some matches and noticed that the wrestlers almost never finishes the matches with their finishers. Instead they always cover after their favourites and thereby making the favourite the "default" finisher... Anyone know if this is possible to solve someway or if the game "AI" is just broken? [/quote] Using my sliders and lowering the finisher damage another two clicks makes it happen. I left the finisher damage as it was for my released save in my hack, because people would complain the finishers weren't powerful enough if I put them down by two where they should be. However, by setting the sliders to mine and lowering the finisher damage (which applies to signatures too btw) they will go for a finisher more often, as the CPU can magically tell that the signature didn't do enough damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike The Bike Posted September 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Cool. Do you have them posted anywhere? I'm on PCSX2 you know... By the way brienj, do you know where the default sliders are stored? I wanted to hack this aswell so I don't need to change it everytime I've made an update with my editor (need to clear the save). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brienj Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 [quote name='Nike The Bike' timestamp='1285100463' post='7580963'] Cool. Do you have them posted anywhere? I'm on PCSX2 you know... By the way brienj, do you know where the default sliders are stored? I wanted to hack this aswell so I don't need to change it everytime I've made an update with my editor (need to clear the save). [/quote] Actually, I never did bother finding the slider locations in the save, so I don't know. When I get a chance, I'll post my current slider settings for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16BitJay Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 [quote name='brienj' timestamp='1285093115' post='7580710'] [quote name='Nike The Bike' timestamp='1285020436' post='7578781'] I was simulating some matches and noticed that the wrestlers almost never finishes the matches with their finishers. Instead they always cover after their favourites and thereby making the favourite the "default" finisher... Anyone know if this is possible to solve someway or if the game "AI" is just broken? [/quote] Using my sliders and lowering the finisher damage another two clicks makes it happen. I left the finisher damage as it was for my released save in my hack, because people would complain the finishers weren't powerful enough if I put them down by two where they should be. However, by setting the sliders to mine and lowering the finisher damage (which applies to signatures too btw) they will go for a finisher more often, as the CPU can magically tell that the signature didn't do enough damage. [/quote] I might have to try that I always bumped it up so it would end a match lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazman™ Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Yeah this really needs to be changed in SvR 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brienj Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Here are my settings, and just change the finisher damage like I say to get the CPU to be more likely to hit a finisher for the pin. Also, changing the Momentum Bar Charge Speed down to Slow will make them perform less finishers in the match and only one finisher will be more than likely what finishes the match, but I like a lot of finishers, because I am not an idiot that thinks finisher = end of match. The number is how many click over from the minimum you set them to. [b]In-Game Options:[/b] Difficulty - Legend Momentum Bar Charge Speed - Fast Stamina System - ON [b]A.I. Reversal Balancing[/b] Standing Strike - 15 Standing Grapple - 14 Ground Strike - 13 Ground Grapple - 14 Finisher - 14 Foreign Attack - 12 [b]Damage Balancing[/b] Finisher Strength - 7 (Reduce to 6 or preferably 5 to increase Finisher use) Foreign Object - 11 [b]Game Balancing[/b] Standing Strike - 9 Standing Grapple - 11 Ground Strike - 8 Ground Grapple - 14 Finisher Reversal - 12 Foreign Object - 13 Momentum Rate Actions - 8 Momentum Rate Attacks - 8 Momentum Rate Taunts - 8 Stamina Rate - 12 I've had several people tell me that these setting work well for them, but I know that I like them at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyder78 Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Since I already traded mine 2010' in to cover pre--order costs and what not might see if these work on 2011' ..Just to be clear, when you say minimum are you starting from 0 then 15 clicks to the right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brienj Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 [quote name='Spyder78' timestamp='1285107812' post='7581336'] Since I already traded mine 2010' in to cover pre--order costs and what not might see if these work on 2011' ..Just to be clear, when you say minimum are you starting from 0 then 15 clicks to the right? [/quote] Yeah, go over all the way to the left with the slider to 0, then click over the amount of times I say. The max is more than 15, I believe it's 20 or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muur Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Why would you want to watch a simulated match of SVR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyder78 Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 [quote name='Muur' timestamp='1285110016' post='7581434'] Why would you want to watch a simulated match of SVR? [/quote] Most feds rely on fair simming and want the most realistic settings possible to get the AI to work well and what not. Some just enjoy it I guess XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike The Bike Posted September 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 I do it to create "AI" for characters by editing their movesets so they act as similar to real life as possible. It's easier to do this tweaking if i sim a match than if I play. That's why I sim matches from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brienj Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 [quote name='Muur' timestamp='1285110016' post='7581434'] Why would you want to watch a simulated match of SVR? [/quote] People enjoyed watching the videos I had of my hacked game. Too bad THQ had to be a bunch of killjoys and give me a copyright strike on a video I had. I've taken the videos down for now, and putting them other places besides Youtube. Well anyway, THQ can suck it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike The Bike Posted September 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 They did? For showing it's possible to hack or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brienj Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 [quote name='Nike The Bike' timestamp='1285153440' post='7582443'] They did? For showing it's possible to hack or what? [/quote] The one they hit was the Rey Mysterio vs. Beth Phoenix video. So that shows what they are afraid of people discovering, the gender hacking. Oh well, it's no big loss, there are plenty of other video sites to showcase my hacks on the SvR series. THQ are really going to hate some of the hacks I have in mind for 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike The Bike Posted September 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Hehe, sounds interesting. Can't wait, hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fried Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Thanks for those slider settings brienj. They work quite well & had some good matches last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brienj Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 [quote name='Fried' timestamp='1285282040' post='7585826'] Thanks for those slider settings brienj. They work quite well & had some good matches last night. [/quote] Cool, sorry, I just noticed your post today, I don't come in the 2010 section too often anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. T-Zone Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Thank You BrienJ! Simmed AI matches are better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nike The Bike Posted October 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Anyone know of a hack code or something to make these the default sliders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MepsiPax187 Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Why the hell did you put the Momentum Bar Charge Speed on fast? i always put it to the lowest speed. I love taking ages to get a finisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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