ZhangJunyi Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 Shawn Michaels Moveset by ZhangJunyi STANDARD ACTIONS Ring-In: Slide In Ring-Out: Normal Taunts: Wake Up 2 HBK 1 HBK 3 Taunt Muscular Fighting Stance: HBK Walking Motion: Normal Running Motion: Normal STANDING Strike Attacks: Combination 1 Toe Kick 1 Snap Jab Clothesline 3 Triple H Punches 3 Back Chop 4 Grapple Moves: Clean: Headlock 1 Small Package 1 Arm Drag Leg Drop Headlock Takeover Arm Drag 3 Submission: Hammer Lock Arm Wrench 1 Armbar 5 Headlock 4 Sleeper Hold 1 Moves 1- Power: Powerful Knee Strike 1 Shoulder Thrust 1 Clothesline 21 Back Chop 7 Clothesline 22 Moves 2- Old School: Back Chop 6 Arm Drag 8 Neckbreaker 6 Scoop Slam 5 DDT 24 Moves 3- Brawler: Undertaker Knee Strike Elbow To Back Of Head 1 Back Club Mat Slam Fury Punch 3 Grapple Moves: Grapple Punch 2 x2 Grapple Punch 4 Grapple From Behind: Bulldog 2 School Boy Pin 2 Turning Face Front Elbow To Back Of Head 2 Forearm Smash Bulldog 6 Hopping Sunset Flip 2 Back Suplex 5 Backbreaker 4 Sleeper Hold 4 Top of Cell Attack: Downward Thrust x4 GROUND Strike Attacks: Angry Stomp Elbow Drop 1 Elbow Drop 4 Grapple Moves: Sleeper Hold 6 Mounted Punching 1 Knee Stomp Toss 2 Sharpshooter 1 Mexican Stretch 2 CORNER Strike Attacks: Turnbuckle Clothesline 1 Running Shoulder Attack 1 Knee Attack 1 Grapple Moves: Big Back Chop 1 10 Punch Chop & Punch Combo Superplex 1 Mudhole Stomping 1 Mudhole Stomping 2 Grapple From Behind: Forearm to Back Tie to Tree of Woe Toss into Ring Post Super Back Suplex Turnbuckle Smash ROPE Groggy On Ropes: Elbow & Irish Whip Rebound Attack: Clothesline 14 Elbow Drop 5 Vaulting Body Press 2 Diving Out Of Ring Attack: Rope Flip 2 DIVING Standing: Double Axe Handle 3 Diving Cross Body Pin 2 Downed: Diving Elbow Drop Near Elbow Drop Diving Elbow Drop Pin 2 DASH Running Strikes: Shoulder Block 2 Flying Forearm Smash 1 Running Grapple: Lou Thesz Press Sunset Flip Pin 1 Rear Techniques: Bulldog 6 School Boy Pin 2 Running Ground Attack: Double Axe Handle 5 Elbow Drop 5 Counter Attack: Reverse Atomic Drop Back Body Drop 2 Hip Toss 1 TAG TEAM Standing: Double Clothesline Double Beat Head Double Suplex Double Facecrusher Double DDT Corner: Kick To Gut 1 Whip & Lay Down Body Splash & Whip Double Elbow Drop 1 Double Stomping SPECIAL Finishers: Sweet Chin Music 2 Sweet Chin Music 1 Signature Moves: Scoop Slam 5 Diving Elbow Drop Pin 2 Flying Forearm Smash 1 Chair Finisher: DDT 23 x2 Combination Attack: Angle Punches (flip) x2 Undertaker Punches 2 First, let me say I love Shawn Michaels. Honestly one of the best five guys WWE has right now. He's awesome in the ring and he's even better on the mic. Now that I got that covered... his moveset freaking sucks. This guy hardly does moves... he's worse than John Cena in that department. Yeah, I said it. But he doesn't make it as prevalient... and he can actually carry a match. So it was absolute HELL doing this moveset. He has TWO filler Front Grapples. THAT is how bad his moveset is. Again, I love HBK... he really is the Show Stopper, the Icon, and the Main Event... but his moveset still sucks. Comments would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squishy Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 What happened with his Sharpshooter? And I think you should change Near Elbow Drop and/or Diving Elbow Drop to The Money Shot Pin and/or Diving Moonsault 1, just my thoughts though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZhangJunyi Posted April 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 The only time he's used it in the past six months is against Hogan... in Montreal to piss off all the canuckers. So I decided not to include it until I see him use it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squishy Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 I'm pretty sure he's used it on Raw a couple times too (not as a finsher), I could be wrong though. [b]Edit:[/b] As for the diving moves that I suggested to be changed, I know he has done them just he might have not them recently. I just find the [b]Near Elbow Drop[/b] to be a waste because you can hit the regular [b]Diving Elbow Drop[/b] if the oppenent is close to you and it looks better. [b]Edit:[/b] You could give him the [b]Flying Forearm Smash 1[/b] and a rebound move, change of the dash move from [b]Flying Forearm Smash 1[/b] to [b]Karate Kick 1[/b] (looks like the Sweet Chin Music in a way) and give him the [b]Sharpshooter[/b] or [b]Diving Elbow Drop Pin 2[/b] as the second finisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jos-B Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 I wouldn't get rid of the Sweet Chin Musics, if the running one was still in the game, then I'd put that as a special maybe...but it's not. Maybe I'd give him a Diving Moonsault for the Moonsault he occasionally does to people standing. I'd add the X-Mark for the hell of it, and I'd give him the Lou Thesz Press and the Sunset Flip Pin 2 as running grapples, I'd give him the Flying Forearm Smash and the Edge Clothesline as running attacks, and give him the HHH Running Knee Attack as a rebound attack, recently I'd seen him do what the announcers dub a "million dollar high knee" or something to that effect. Also, doesn't HBK do Rope Flip 1, the Senton looking one, rather than the somersault splash that RVD has? I'd also get rid of the Toss to Turnbuckle for the Chop and Punch Combo. The Mexican Stretch seems suspect, and I'd change the Mounted Punching 1 to 4. It is a bitch to make HBK's moveset, so those are just my suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squishy Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Karate Kick 1 looks like the standing Sweet Chin Music though. That can clear up a space for another finisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZhangJunyi Posted April 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 I'll do changes tomorrow. But in brief... I'll keep two SCMs as finishers. Seems pointless to make Diving Elbow Drop or the Sharpshooter as a different finisher. Besides, it's nice to have the two different SCMs. I completely forgot he did that Moonsault. I took a day break when I was making these and I ended up forgetting he did that. And I had to decide between Lou Thesz and Neckbreaker. I think I'll end up giving HBK a neckbreaker in his Old School set, replacing the Wrist Arm & Elbow. I disagree with the Edge Clothesline deal as he does the Shoulder Block more. And... I haven't been paying to the commentary... but I don't remember HBK using that high knee alot. I think I'll hold off until I see him use it again. And... does he use the Rope Flip? I coulda swore all he used were Planchas now. And I may use Chop & Punch Combo. I'll have to look and see how it looks again. The Mexican Stretch was used against Rey Mysterio at the Eddie Tribute Show. It's the one where he pulls the guy back half way and then puts him in a chin lock. And I dunno... I'll check out how HBK punches again to see the mounted punches. And yeah... HBK's moves are a ****ing bitch to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squishy Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 [quote name='ZhangJunyi' post='88342' date='Apr 6 2006, 08:47 PM']I'll do changes tomorrow. But in brief... I'll keep two SCMs as finishers. Seems pointless to make Diving Elbow Drop or the Sharpshooter as a different finisher. Besides, it's nice to have the two different SCMs.[/quote] I'd say from WM22 that he'll use the [b]Diving Elbow Drop Pin 2[/b] as a finisher more often. [b]SCM 1[/b] is very very close to [b]Karate Kick 1[/b], the only differences are that he doesn't dance afterwards and less damage but other than that it's the same move. I think it's classic to have either the [b]Sharpshooter[/b] or [b]Diving Elbow Drop Pin 2[/b] s his second finisher, more so the [b]Sharpshooter[/b] as there's no other place for it in his moveset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jos-B Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 I don't think he's ever finished a match with the Sharpshooter, and recently he usually hits the Elbow Drop, then the SCM...it would be nice to have that old running Sweet Chin Music, it was a pretty cool alternative for the SCM, and it was more spontaneous than the front grapple one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squishy Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 [quote name='Jos-B' post='88400' date='Apr 6 2006, 09:12 PM']I don't think he's ever finished a match with the Sharpshooter, and recently he usually hits the Elbow Drop, then the SCM...it would be nice to have that old running Sweet Chin Music, it was a pretty cool alternative for the SCM, and it was more spontaneous than the front grapple one.[/quote] Maybe not recently, he hasn't finished a match with the [b]Sharpshooter[/b], but he has in the past, I'll give you that. I only suggested it as a finisher because it was no where else. As for the [b]Diving Elbow Drop Pin 2[/b], I suggested that because it looks more like his usual elbow drop with or without the pin, the regular [b]Diving Elbow Drop[/b] doesn't quite do it justice for me. [b]Karate Kick 1[/b] can be done as a dash move, so it's like the running SCM 1, it can also be "spontaneous" since you can hit it anywhere. [b]Edit:[/b] I mentioned before [b]The Money Shot Pin[/b] as a diving move since he used to do it. I think I mention this a lot about the [b]Near Elbow Drop[/b] and it being basically useless to me, the [b]Diving Moonsault 1[/b] or [b]The Money Shot Pin[/b] I fell can replace it without a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
- CM Punk - Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Hbk did finish a match with the sharpshooter remember the "Montreal Incident". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squishy Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 I don't know if some people will count it in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravnos Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Well. I don't like wasting a whole grapple on Brawler. How about Speed? Where's the snap suplex? A kitchen sink (substitute the high knee lift like Mero does)? DDT 11 is in that grapple too, the one with the kip up. So is Back Chop 7. And then you just have to pick one other move he does. Brawler's only good for rugged guys like JBL and Batista. Where's clothesline 13 (he usually does 2 in a row like Cena)? Where's the diving moonsault? And why near elbow drop? He usually goes long distances, and besides Diving Elbow Drop can work for close and far. Diving Elbow Drop 2 is crap for HBK. It hits with the wrong elbow and it pins.... besides, you can't do it and go for Sweet Chin Music 2 unless you have one that doesn't pin. Where's Polish Hammer 2 (I've seen him do this a bunch of times on RAW)? How about Groin Shaker instead of a move that really just irish whips? Not even a dropkick somewhere? Come on. I figure this needs a lot of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latin American Exchange Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Lookin good so far and a apreshate that u gave him a try.thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jos-B Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 He may have used the Sharpshooter as a finisher a while ago, but I'm guessing this is a moveset for the most recent HBK, right Zhang? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionART07 Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 nice moveset dude...for his finishers like Jos-B said he should have the sharpshooter...other than that i like it very much..8.5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZhangJunyi Posted April 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 Alright... fixed. Update: STANDING- Moves 2- Old School: Wrist Clutch & Elbow -> Neckbreaker 6 GROUND- Grapple Moves: Stomp On Leg -> Sharpshooter 1 CORNER- Grapple Moves: Toss To Turnbuckle -> Chop & Punch Combo DIVING- Downed: Diving Elbow Drop -> Knee Drop 1 Near Elbow Drop -> Diving Moonsault 1 DASH- Running Grapples: Neckbreaker 1 -> Lou Thesz Press Update: STANDING- Moves 2- Old School: Wrist Clutch & Elbow -> Neckbreaker 6 GROUND- Grapple Moves: Stomp On Leg -> Sharpshooter 1 CORNER- Grapple Moves: Toss To Turnbuckle -> Chop & Punch Combo DIVING- Downed: Diving Elbow Drop -> Knee Drop 1 Near Elbow Drop -> Diving Moonsault 1 DASH- Running Grapples: Neckbreaker 1 -> Lou Thesz Press Now Ravnos... I have to disagree with you. I won't add speed because Kitchen Sink doesn't fit HBK, DDT 11 doesn't fit him, and I haven't seen HBK do a suplex in the past six months, let alone a Snap Suplex. Brawler is most certainly not only good for guys like Batista and JBL. After all, it has quite a few moves that fit him. Undertaker Knee Strike, Fury Punch 3, Mat Slam, and Elbow To Back Of Head 2 (Because they don't have a normal bionic elbow...) And I'd have to say none of those moves are too hoss-esque for HBK to pull off. Clothesline 13 has been pitched for Shoulder Block 2, as he does it alot more. Clothesline 3 in Strikes is much closer to HBK's clotheslines, I think. I addressed the Elbow Drops and Moonsault previously... And when in the world did he ever use the Polish Hammer? Groin Shaker...? When does he do that? Besides, Elbow & Irish Whip does 6 Head damage. I don't mind the move at all either. And maybe young HBK can do a dropkick... but I haven't ever seen him do a dropkick in at least a year. Please remember that all of the movesets I do are CURRENT movesets. Meaning if they used them back in the day and in their prime... I probably won't add them now due to the guy not using it in a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squishy Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 I still think my idea about giving him the [b]Karate Kick 1[/b] as a [b]Dash[/b] move is good. You could, without trouble as to if he does it or not, give him the [b]Flying Forearm Smash 1[/b] as a [b]Rebound Attack[/b] because he does it most after hitting the ropes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jos-B Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 The only beef I have with the Karate Kick as a running move is it's like having the Sweet Chin Music as a regular move, it takes away from the special. Edit: Oh, and Lionheart*, I said that I Don't think HBK should have the Sharpshooter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squishy Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 I can understand that. I just thought that the [b]Flying Forearm Smash 1[/b] would be a whole lot better as a [b]Rebound[/b] attack since he does it after hitting the ropes. I explained my thoughts better I belive in my first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..:::Burnout:::.. Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 9/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agame Crawlin'... Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 Great Moveset Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 The standing SCW sucks, he shouldn't land on his neck.. Good set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..:::Burnout:::.. Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 9/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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