glennsoe Posted November 12, 2024 Report Share Posted November 12, 2024 WCW Pack DLC Moves Oh boy, the final pack for 2K24. Without further ado, here's what to look forward to tomorrow: \----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- \-Back Suplex 9 \-Back Suplex/Camel Clutch Combo \-Camel Clutch 6 \-Camel Clutch 7 \-Coast-to-Coast 'Buckle Slam 2 \-Delayed Gut Buster \-Diamond Clash 1 \-Diamond Clash 2 \-Diamond Cutter 1 \-Diamond Should Thrusts \-Diving Moonsault 2 \-Flashing Elbow \-Gorilla Press Slam 3 \-Groin Drop \-Handspring Back Elbow \-Head Scissor Neck Twist \-Loaded Forearm Smash \-Neck Chop 1 \-Neck Chop 2 \-Perfect Knee Lift \-Perfect-Plex \-Pumphandle Backbreaker \-Spinning Sole Kick 2 \-Torture Rack 4 \-Torture Rack 5 \-Torture Rack 6 Link to comment
RyanCE Posted November 12, 2024 Report Share Posted November 12, 2024 Why is 2K obsessed with ruining animations by adding unnecessary toe kicks to them? DDP never set the Diamond Cutter up with a kick. Hennig never (or rarely) set the Perfect-Plex up with a kick. If I want to kick before a move I can do it myself. Also, Muta set his Flashing Elbow up with a snapmare 99% of the time, but there isn't a generic snapmare in the game that leaves the opponent flat, making it impossible to perform the move like Muta did. This really should have been a standing attack with the snapmare baked into the animation similar to the Snapmare & Penalty Kick and other such moves. Link to comment
CROSS-Out Posted November 12, 2024 Report Share Posted November 12, 2024 (edited) Over half the damn moves are taunts and the other half has ridiculously glaring omissions. Lol2K. I don't even care if he didn't use it until after he went back to Japan. If you include the Great *censored*ing Muta, you include a new *censored*ing Shining Wizard for Christs sake. Edited November 12, 2024 by CROSS-Out Link to comment
SaturnT3 Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 4 hours ago, CROSS-Out said: Over half the damn moves are taunts and the other half has ridiculously glaring omissions. Lol2K. I don't even care if he didn't use it until after he went back to Japan. If you include the Great *censored*ing Muta, you include a new *censored*ing Shining Wizard for Christs sake. I was actually hoping classic WCW Muta *wouldn't* have a Shining Wizard. I wanted him to be accurate. I wish he'd have gotten some mist moves like his top rope Frankensteiner, but I wouldn't want a mishmash of different eras of anyone. Hopefully he's got some exclusive reversals. Link to comment
TheNoOneM1 Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 11 minutes ago, SaturnT3 said: I was actually hoping classic WCW Muta *wouldn't* have a Shining Wizard. I wanted him to be accurate. I wish he'd have gotten some mist moves like his top rope Frankensteiner, but I wouldn't want a mishmash of different eras of anyone. Hopefully he's got some exclusive reversals. I'm all for the accuracy too but I was hoping for (but not expecting) some Shinning Wizards for the hell of it like how Barrett had a great new Bullhammer despite being the NXT Season 1 Barrett in 2K23. We can always edit the Movesets Link to comment
SaturnT3 Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 6 minutes ago, TheNoOneM1 said: I'm all for the accuracy too but I was hoping for (but not expecting) some Shinning Wizards for the hell of it like how Barrett had a great new Bullhammer despite being the NXT Season 1 Barrett in 2K23. We can always edit the Movesets Doing another version is another matter entirely. I'd have loved a new Shining Wizard in and of itself. The ones in the game currently kinda suck for the most part. I just don't think we should have to edit characters for them to be accurate. If a wrestler has two drastically different versions, I think they should get the most out of the likeness and do multiple versions. I still don't get why they don't do 123 Kid in addition to Syxx and X Pac. Drastically different wrestlers, despite being the same human being. Link to comment
TheNoOneM1 Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 12 minutes ago, SaturnT3 said: Doing another version is another matter entirely. I'd have loved a new Shining Wizard in and of itself. The ones in the game currently kinda suck for the most part. I just don't think we should have to edit characters for them to be accurate. If a wrestler has two drastically different versions, I think they should get the most out of the likeness and do multiple versions. I still don't get why they don't do 123 Kid in addition to Syxx and X Pac. Drastically different wrestlers, despite being the same human being. 1-2-3 Kid would be so cool to see in the Main Series Link to comment
CROSS-Out Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 40 minutes ago, SaturnT3 said: I was actually hoping classic WCW Muta *wouldn't* have a Shining Wizard. I wanted him to be accurate. I wish he'd have gotten some mist moves like his top rope Frankensteiner, but I wouldn't want a mishmash of different eras of anyone. Hopefully he's got some exclusive reversals. Just.. remove the new one from him, then? I don't understand how you can possibly say you're happy to have gotten less. Link to comment
SaturnT3 Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 (edited) 34 minutes ago, CROSS-Out said: Just.. remove the new one from him, then? I don't understand how you can possibly say you're happy to have gotten less. I...didn't? I said I'd love it if they added a new Shining Wizard. I said I'm happy the early 90s Muta they did is accurate. Edited November 13, 2024 by SaturnT3 Link to comment
A N T I - Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 They knew people would want shining wizards and modern Muta mannerisms and maneuvers, so they should’ve mocapped it it and included it without assigning it to that Muta. They’re smarter than this. Link to comment
glennsoe Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 Mr perfect's entrance https://x.com/i/status/1856540074806059444 Link to comment
SaturnT3 Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 WCW Mysterio didn't even get his WCW finisher. I'm not surprised at all that early 90s WCW Muta didn't get his All Japan finisher he didn't use until 10 years later. People "want" every move ever. That doesn't mean there's a reason to expect it. Link to comment
RyanCE Posted November 13, 2024 Report Share Posted November 13, 2024 (edited) I'm much more disappointed that Muta is missing signature moves he used in the '80s and early '90s like his double mule kick out of the corner, his very distinctive throat thrust, his distinctive running facecrusher, his nerve hold, his sideways back body drop, and a basic side leg lock (I think only a heel hook remains in the game). He should have several poison mist variants as unique reversals/counters too. I'm sorry, but four new moves isn't nearly enough for Muta's first WWE video game appearance. Edited November 14, 2024 by RyanCE Link to comment
glennsoe Posted November 14, 2024 Report Share Posted November 14, 2024 (edited) About MR Perfect; Hard whip him into the corner and he has his own flip bump. He also does an inside out/Rikishi Bump when you throw a chair at him Edited November 14, 2024 by glennsoe Link to comment
glennsoe Posted November 14, 2024 Report Share Posted November 14, 2024 Mr Perfect's 2 different selling animations 1932c743aed99-master_playlist.mp4 1932c73618448-master_playlist.mp4 Link to comment
squirries16 Posted December 3, 2024 Report Share Posted December 3, 2024 it's been a long while since i've been on here but i gotta say i'm loving the WCW DLC. my only gripe was that diamond cutter being so slow and with a gut kick. I don't remember him ever doing it like that at least in wcw. But i actually think it would work for a mid 200's Kanyon when he was doing his Kanyon Cutter shenanigans lol. I also hoped that teasing cutter from the shoulder thrusts would turn into a Diamond cutter when you had a finisher but sadly it's not but these are minor gripes. my only issue with luger is they gave him Omos' Wakeup taunt when all they needed to do is Animate that wakeup taunt 3X fast and it basically would have been his real torture rack taunt. Mr Perfect I just turned him into Curt Hennig since i mostly do WCW universe so sadly he will never pull his strap down unless 2K wises up and lets alts and caws pull them down again. Link to comment
squirries16 Posted December 3, 2024 Report Share Posted December 3, 2024 On 11/12/2024 at 10:06 PM, SaturnT3 said: Doing another version is another matter entirely. I'd have loved a new Shining Wizard in and of itself. The ones in the game currently kinda suck for the most part. I just don't think we should have to edit characters for them to be accurate. If a wrestler has two drastically different versions, I think they should get the most out of the likeness and do multiple versions. I still don't get why they don't do 123 Kid in addition to Syxx and X Pac. Drastically different wrestlers, despite being the same human being. to be honest he should have gotten one, or 4. because from the matches i saw of him in 96 and 97 WCW he did use them. they might not of been finishers or match enders but he did use them. It's just like when they set the harlem hangover as current (or 04) booker t's finisher. he never did that as a finisher but it's set. so yeah but this is 2K so. They care more about content damaged, moving parts to my wallet and locking stuff behind that god awful mode then actually doing their research Link to comment
squirries16 Posted December 3, 2024 Report Share Posted December 3, 2024 On 11/13/2024 at 6:58 AM, SaturnT3 said: WCW Mysterio didn't even get his WCW finisher. I'm not surprised at all that early 90s WCW Muta didn't get his All Japan finisher he didn't use until 10 years later. People "want" every move ever. That doesn't mean there's a reason to expect it. actually his finisher was the slingshot legdrop. he did do a seated hurricanrana springboard and that's there but it doesn't have the pin combo. as to your point, muta was doing shining wizards in wcw but it wasn't a finisher Link to comment
squirries16 Posted December 3, 2024 Report Share Posted December 3, 2024 On 11/12/2024 at 4:56 PM, RyanCE said: Why is 2K obsessed with ruining animations by adding unnecessary toe kicks to them? DDP never set the Diamond Cutter up with a kick. Hennig never (or rarely) set the Perfect-Plex up with a kick. If I want to kick before a move I can do it myself. Also, Muta set his Flashing Elbow up with a snapmare 99% of the time, but there isn't a generic snapmare in the game that leaves the opponent flat, making it impossible to perform the move like Muta did. This really should have been a standing attack with the snapmare baked into the animation similar to the Snapmare & Penalty Kick and other such moves. yeah this is what annoyed me not to mention the speed of that diamond cutter is super slow lol these people just don't do their research. i'm glad the stuff is in and all but i can't believe ddp actually called 2k24 the best game ever when they didn't even get his finisher right. and don't even get me started on luger not having a proper torture rack taunt Link to comment
A N T I - Posted December 3, 2024 Report Share Posted December 3, 2024 (edited) I doubt DDP cares about the accuracy of his finisher in a video game. The games are the best they’ve ever looked, so it’s easy to be a legend looking at the quality of the games now compared to back in the day and say it’s the best ever. The problem lies from bell to bell. It feels more like a wrestling-themed fighting game than a pro wrestling game. It’s like someone out of frustration with the new gameplay style said back when 2K22 came out….they said that it would take years for Visual Concepts just to get back to the level of gameplay we were at with 2K19. I doubted it back then, but it looks to be the case. Each release is indeed better than the last, but that’s not good enough to warrant the fake media praise as if it’s the best thing to happen to wrestling gaming. It’s not. Edited December 3, 2024 by A N T I - Link to comment
squirries16 Posted December 3, 2024 Report Share Posted December 3, 2024 17 hours ago, A N T I - said: I doubt DDP cares about the accuracy of his finisher in a video game. The games are the best they’ve ever looked, so it’s easy to be a legend looking at the quality of the games now compared to back in the day and say it’s the best ever. The problem lies from bell to bell. It feels more like a wrestling-themed fighting game than a pro wrestling game. It’s like someone out of frustration with the new gameplay style said back when 2K22 came out….they said that it would take years for Visual Concepts just to get back to the level of gameplay we were at with 2K19. I doubted it back then, but it looks to be the case. Each release is indeed better than the last, but that’s not good enough to warrant the fake media praise as if it’s the best thing to happen to wrestling gaming. It’s not. yeah i get that lol i just wanna know who thought it was a good idea to add a gut kick to the DC the only time i ever saw him do that and that slow was in wwe not wcw lol Link to comment
glennsoe Posted December 4, 2024 Report Share Posted December 4, 2024 (edited) New patch out today with 3 New Elite figures Edited December 4, 2024 by glennsoe Link to comment
Monarch98 Posted December 4, 2024 Report Share Posted December 4, 2024 2 hours ago, glennsoe said: New patch out today with 3 New Elite figures That Roman looks pretty good, Rhea looks weird in the face(maybe the face is a little off), and if that's Trish at the end, she looks way off. Link to comment
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