SaturnT3 Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 14 minutes ago, Golden Boy® said: You guys still believe Brock will be romved lol With Austin vs Rock WM 17 confirmed then that practically confirms Vince is in If you have a moral issue then you should boycott the whole game It's really not rocket science, it's basic marketing, and as I said 100 times before, it doesn't make financial sense to remove either Vince or Brock especially that they have not been officially convicted My point is that you have to let people know he’s in if there’s a chance of a moral issue. I’m getting the game either way. Just saying it’s a potential PR issue if he’s in the game unannounced. Link to comment
Senex Beast Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 Many probably don't give a shit except if Vince is in Link to comment
Golden Boy® Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 (edited) 11 minutes ago, SaturnT3 said: My point is that you have to let people know he’s in if there’s a chance of a moral issue. I’m getting the game either way. Just saying it’s a potential PR issue if he’s in the game unannounced. Nah man, at worst, it will create a small controversy which will dial down within few days because his scandal came out way after the game development. But I truly believe nothing will come of it because again neither he or Brock are officially convicted, look at Jimmy Snuka, man had all the evidence of murder against him, yet he still featured in SvR, Legends of Wrestlemania, SvR 11 and All Stars. Edited February 13 by Golden Boy® Link to comment
Senex Beast Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 I can see a few bitches on X calling for a boycott or some shit and feeling offended but that's a very small minority Link to comment
Golden Boy® Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 17 minutes ago, Senex Beast said: I can see a few bitches on X calling for a boycott or some shit and feeling offended but that's a very small minority Exactly and calling for boycotts usually works in video gaming industry, I mean look at Hogwarts Legacy LMAO Link to comment
Senex Beast Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, Golden Boy® said: Exactly and calling for boycotts usually works in video gaming industry, I mean look at Hogwarts Legacy LMAO Wait, some called to boycott that game? Why? Link to comment
Austin3035 Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, Golden Boy® said: You guys still believe Brock will be romved lol With Austin vs Rock WM 17 confirmed then that practically confirms Vince is in If you have a moral issue then you should boycott the whole game It's really not rocket science, it's basic marketing, and as I said 100 times before, it doesn't make financial sense to remove either Vince or Brock especially that they have not been officially convicted not really they could just do a whole cutscene with real footage and not use an actual model Link to comment
Austin3035 Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 so what match u think will have a alt ending if u lose they been putting them in atleast one match for a couple years now Link to comment
liontamer* Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 I'm guessing Seth vs. Orton means we're also getting Seth's old theme song? I am happily going to replace the current one with it. Would have liked to see Messiah Seth too Link to comment
Golden Boy® Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Senex Beast said: Wait, some called to boycott that game? Why? JK Rowling (the creator of the Harry Potter world) made some transphobic remarks that got her canceled Despite her not being associated with the game at any capacity, activists tried to fight the game by calling for boycotts 2 weeks before release. The result was the game being in the top 5 most sold games in 2023 and still among the top 10 on steam LOL Edited February 13 by Golden Boy® Link to comment
Senex Beast Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 Sounds about right. Activists can be fools like that! Link to comment
glennsoe Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 Didn't one of the 2k devs say that we'd get someone in the showcase that hasn't been in a wwe game before? Miss Elizabeth? Or have my damn fever kicked in? Link to comment
judas priest superstar Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 Right...such classics as Ivory vs Chyna, all 3 minutes of it Trish vs Lita vs Jazz Trish vs Victoria vs Jazz Trish vs Christie Hemme...another "classic" Sigh. Diva fans, please join us in reality. You'll be glad you did. Link to comment
Senex Beast Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 (edited) Showcase could feature equal amount of male and women matches and diva stans would still bitch about something! They could have easily added those matches but I'm glad they didn't. Still other better, bigger and classic matches in WM history that got left off than just women matches for the sake of equality or girl empowerment! Edited February 13 by Senex Beast Link to comment
Golden Boy® Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 20 minutes ago, judas priest superstar said: Right...such classics as Ivory vs Chyna, all 3 minutes of it Trish vs Lita vs Jazz Trish vs Victoria vs Jazz Trish vs Christie Hemme...another "classic" Sigh. Diva fans, please join us in reality. You'll be glad you did. Was thinking the same thing, since when was there this obsession with women wrestling especially with Divas era According to X, Kelly Kelly is Steve Austin level of legendary Link to comment
Senex Beast Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, Golden Boy® said: Was thinking the same thing, since when was there this obsession with women wrestling especially with Divas era According to X, Kelly Kelly is Steve Austin level of legendary From what I noticed and remember, a diva fans movement and an obsession with women wrestlers in wrestling games started around Smackdown vs Raw 2010 or 2011 Link to comment
Glen Coco Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 (edited) Yeah because wanting representation is such a bad thing people constantly bitching about “DivA fAnS”, when they make up a huge part of the wrestling fanbase is so annoying especially when male fans have proven to be just as whiny too. They literally stated that women would have heavy representation in the game and in the mode and lied. There are some GLARING omissions so the disappointment is understandable lol. That being said, i’m kinda disappointed and have been since I saw that we were only getting 21 matches. I understand that some people obviously can’t appear in the games, but I feel like 2k14 was much more stacked. I don’t mind the repeat matches as much, because they pulled a couple of others ones out too, but I wish got SGT Slaughter, Studd & King Kong back in addition to more women’s matches. I’ve been dying for Ivory to be back in the game and for us to get Chyna’s WM attire, but eh. I hope the DLC is good this year because even though I said I was a little disappointed so far, I still feel like I will enjoy the game. Edited February 13 by Glen Coco Link to comment
Glen Coco Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 and ffs can we please get Mr Fuji back in the game Link to comment
Jeb ★ Posted February 13 Author Report Share Posted February 13 18/21 showcase matches updated in the OP tbf more women's matches would've been nice, especially if it wasn't just 21 matches. Also the ones I could see being included can't because of people who are in it: - Sasha matches (vs. Bianca, vs. Becky and Charlotte) - Paige (AEW) & AJ Lee vs. Bella Twins - Mickie James (Impact) vs. Trish Stratus Link to comment
judas priest superstar Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 My issues stem from the fact a lot of that community is loud and wrong about their demands. Representation is great. But let's be realistic here, the only matches that are realistically going to be in that game with the women's involvement were going to be limited to anything from the past decade....and then it gets even thinner when you see who isn't on the roster/who isn't under contract when the mode was being developed. Maybe in a better world Flair vs Asuka would have made it. At best, that match. But Sable vs Tori? Trish vs Christie Hemme? Trish vs Mickie James? (who doesn't even have a relationship with WWE) Any/all of the Playboy covergirl matches vs the women champions? I don't get it. Link to comment
Senex Beast Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 Representation is great but it makes sense why it's limited for a showcase about WM top matches and only 21 of them. Have a women's dlc pack, that would be fine. 2K25's showcase could be about the "women's revolution" and that would be cool but in this case meh Link to comment
SaturnT3 Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 2 hours ago, Golden Boy® said: Nah man, at worst, it will create a small controversy which will dial down within few days because his scandal came out way after the game development. But I truly believe nothing will come of it because again neither he or Brock are officially convicted, look at Jimmy Snuka, man had all the evidence of murder against him, yet he still featured in SvR, Legends of Wrestlemania, SvR 11 and All Stars. Then why take him off the cover? Hell, why take him off Royal Rumble? Obviously WWE (and more importantly, their sponsors) think it's a big enough deal to pivot to some degree. The only thing that's yet to be seen is to what degree. Again, I don't know if Vince/Brock will be in or not. I'm not emotional about it one way or the other. I'm just talking about expectations here. I'm not expecting either in the game until I see signs they're in. And I think Brock and/or Vince as a surprise has more negatives than positives. If they're not worried about keeping one or both in the game, they shouldn't be worried about listing them in the roster reveal. Link to comment
Golden Boy® Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 14 minutes ago, judas priest superstar said: My issues stem from the fact a lot of that community is loud and wrong about their demands. Representation is great. But let's be realistic here, the only matches that are realistically going to be in that game with the women's involvement were going to be limited to anything from the past decade....and then it gets even thinner when you see who isn't on the roster/who isn't under contract when the mode was being developed. Maybe in a better world Flair vs Asuka would have made it. At best, that match. But Sable vs Tori? Trish vs Christie Hemme? Trish vs Mickie James? (who doesn't even have a relationship with WWE) Any/all of the Playboy covergirl matches vs the women champions? I don't get it. How can you forget the legendar evening gown match between Stacy & Miss Jackie vs Sable and Torrie, or the iconic Melina vs Ashley or the legendary Christy Hemme vs Trish Stratus. Link to comment
Senex Beast Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 What about the women's battle royal with "Santina" winning to become "Miss Wrestlemania"? Link to comment
Golden Boy® Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 (edited) 14 minutes ago, SaturnT3 said: Then why take him off the cover? Hell, why take him off Royal Rumble? Obviously WWE (and more importantly, their sponsors) think it's a big enough deal to pivot to some degree. The only thing that's yet to be seen is to what degree. Again, I don't know if Vince/Brock will be in or not. I'm not emotional about it one way or the other. I'm just talking about expectations here. I'm not expecting either in the game until I see signs they're in. And I think Brock and/or Vince as a surprise has more negatives than positives. If they're not worried about keeping one or both in the game, they shouldn't be worried about listing them in the roster reveal. I am repeating myself every 4 pages 1- the PR effect of them being in one of the company's biggest event is drastically different from featuring them in a video game 2- It's much easier to take them out from events and posters than it takes to take them out from an entire video game 3- them featuring in the game isn't as much of a surpise as you are making it out to be as most fans actually expect them to feature especially after announcing WM X-7 and we all know how much Vince was involved in this, if you saw this trailer and still get surprised that they are in it then i dont know what to tell you 4- 2k decided to limit the damage, take Brock out of the promotional stuff (easy edits) keep him in the game, low PR backlash (if any) and call it a day while removing them from the game this late into development (after announcing 21 matches) will require a delay will have massive financial reprecautions for 2 people who are not even convicted yet. Edited February 13 by Golden Boy® Link to comment
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