Jeb ★ Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 Quote Official Trailers: 1) See John Cena | WWE 2K23 Official Cover Star Reveal 2) Even Stronger | WWE 2K23 Official Showcase Trailer 3) Your Time Is Now! | WWE 2K23 Official Gameplay Trailer 4) WWE 2K23 Bad Bunny Pre-Order Bonus Trailer 5) WWE 2K23 ICON EDITION TRAILER Pre-Order Bonus: Bad Bunny Bonus Pack Release Date: March 17, 2023 (3-Day Early Access for Deluxe & Icon Editions) Platforms: Playstation 5 Playstation 4 Xbox Series X|S Xbox One Steam ---------- Male Superstars: * = DLC ** = MyRise Unlockable AJ Styles Akira Tozawa Andre Chase* André the Giant Angel Angelo Dawkins Apollo Crews Ashante Adonis* Austin Theory Axiom Bad Bunny (Pre-Order)* Batista Batista '08 Big Boss Man Big E Bobby "The Brain" Heenan (Manager) Bobby Lashley Boogeyman Booker T Braun Strowman Bray Wyatt* Bret "The Hitman" Hart British Bulldog Brock Lesnar Brock Lesnar '01* Brock Lesnar '03 Brock Lesnar '14 Bron Breakker Bruno Sammartino Brutus Creed Butch Cactus Jack Cameron Grimes Carmelo Hayes Cedric Alexander Chad Gable Cody Rhodes Commander Azeez Cruz Del Toro Damian Priest Damon Kemp* Dexter Lumis Diesel Doink the Clown Dolph Ziggler Dominik Mysterio Drew Gulak Drew McIntyre Eddie Guerrero Eddie Guerrero ‘97 Edge Edge '06 Elias Elton Prince* Eric Bischoff Erik Ezekiel** Faarooq Finn Bálor Giovanni Vinci Goldberg Grayson Waller Gunther Happy Corbin Harley Race* Hollywood Hogan Hulk Hogan Hulk Hogan '02 Humberto The Hurricane Ilja Dragunov Ivar Jake “The Snake” Roberts JD McDonagh Jean Paul Levesque** Jerry "The King" Lawler Jey Uso Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart Jimmy Uso Jinder Mahal Joaquin Wilde JBL Joe Gacy* John Cena John Cena '02 John Cena '03 John Cena '06 John Cena '08 John Cena '09 John Cena '12 John Cena '14 John Cena '16 John Cena '18 Johnny Gargano Julius Creed Kane Kane ‘08 Karl Anderson* Karrion Kross Kevin Nash Kevin Nash (nWo) Kevin Owens Kit Wilson* Kofi Kingston Kurt Angle LA Knight Leviathan* Logan Paul Ludwig Kaiser Luke Gallows* MA.CE “Macho Man” Randy Savage Madcap Moss MAN.SOOR Matt Riddle The Miz Montez Ford Mr. McMahon Mustafa Ali MVP Nathan Frazer* Noam Dar Omos Otis Paul Heyman (Manager) The Prototype* R-Truth Randy Orton Randy Orton '02* Randy Orton '09 Razor Ramon Reggie Rey Mysterio Rey Mysterio Jr. Rick Boogs Rick Steiner* Ricochet Ridge Holland Rikishi Rob Van Dam Robert Roode The Rock The Rock '12 Roman Reigns "Rowdy" Roddy Piper Sami Zayn Santos Escobar Scott Hall Scott Hall (nWo) Scott Steiner* Seth "Freakin" Rollins Shane McMahon Shanky Shawn Michaels Shawn Michaels ‘05 Sheamus Shelton Benjamin Shinsuke Nakamura Solo Sikoa "Stone Cold" Steve Austin Super Cena Syxx T-BAR Ted DiBiase Titus O’Neil Tommaso Ciampa Tony D’Angelo* Top Dolla* Trick Williams* Triple H Triple H '08 Triple H (Manager) Tyler Bate Tyler Breeze Ultimate Warrior Umaga Undertaker Undertaker '03 Undertaker '18 Undertaker ‘98 Vader Veer Mahaan Wade Barrett* Wes Lee X-Pac Xavier Woods Yokozuna Zeus* Female Superstars: Alba Fyre Alexa Bliss Aliyah Asuka B-Fab (Manager)* Bayley Becky Lynch Beth Phoenix Bianca Belair Blair Davenport* Brie Bella Candice LeRae Carmella Charlotte Flair Chyna Cora Jade Dakota Kai Dana Brooke Doudrop Eve Torres* Gigi Dolin Indi Hartwell IYO SKY Ivy Nile* Jacy Jayne Katana Chance Kayden Carter Lacey Evans Lita Liv Morgan Maryse Mia Yim Mighty Molly** Molly Holly** Molly Holly '02** Natalya Nikki A.S.H. Nikki Bella Nikkita Lyons Queen Zelina Rhea Ripley Ronda Rousey Roxanne Perez Scarlett Shayna Baszler Shotzi Sonya Deville Stacy Keibler Stephanie McMahon Stephanie McMahon (Manager) Tamina Tifanny Stratton* Trish Stratus Valhalla* Wendy Choo* Xia Li Zoey Stark Arenas: Arena Estatal** Backlash 2003 Clash at the Castle Club U.K.** Day 1 ECW One Night Stand 2006 Elimination Chamber Extreme Rules Hell in a Cell Hell in a Cell 2009 High School Gym - BCW High School Gym - Justine Battle Royal** Japan Dome** Japan Hall** Japan Hall - Joshi Japan** King of the Ring LAW** Main Event Mexico Plaza** Mixed Match Challenge Money in the Bank Motion Capture Studio** New Year's Revolution 2006 Night of Champions 2008 NXT NXT 2.0 NXT 2021 NXT Great American Bash NXT In Your House NXT Level Up NXT New Year's Evil NXT Stand & Deliver NXT UK NXT WarGames Single Performance Center Queen's Crown Raw Raw - Thunderdome Raw 2002** Raw 2005 Royal Rumble SmackDown SmackDown - Thunderdome SmackDown 2002 SummerSlam SummerSlam - MyRise** SummerSlam 1998 SummerSlam 2006 SummerSlam 2008 SummerSlam 2014 SummerSlam 2016 SummerSlam 2021 Survivor Series 2022 Vengeance 2003 WarGames - MyRise** WCW Hallowen Havoc 1997 WCW Monday Nitro WrestleMania - MyRise** WrestleMania 22* WrestleMania 28 WrestleMania 34 WrestleMania 38 WrestleMania Backlash WWE Live** ---------- Game Features WarGames This action-packed fan-favorite makes its debut in WWE 2K23 and delivers heart-pounding 3v3 and 4v4 multiplayer mayhem inside two side-by-side rings, surrounded by a double-steel cage! Showcase The champ is here! Play through an interactive sports documentary, narrated by John Cena himself, covering the key moments and toughest opponents of John Cena’s storied 20-year WWE career. And in a franchise-first, take on the role of each marquee opponent - some of WWE’s greatest of all time - as you aim to take down Mr. Hustle, Loyalty, and Respect. Universe The world of WWE is at your fingertips with Universe Mode- the ultimate sandbox that puts you in charge of WWE, from Superstar rosters, feuds, champions, weekly shows, and Premium Live Events! MyFACTION Collect and upgrade cards of WWE Superstars and Legends to build the ultimate faction in MyFACTION. Now featuring online multiplayer, MyFACTION lets you take your faction online and compete for global dominance. MyRise Walk through the curtains for your WWE debut in MyRISE, and shape your career as a WWE Superstar with the decisions you make along the way, featuring distinct storylines - The Lock and The Legacy. MyGM With MyGM, take the reins of a weekly show and compete against rival general managers for brand supremacy. Now featuring more GMs to choose from, additional show options, multiple seasons, expanded match cards, and more match types for up to 4 players. John Cena 2K Showcase Match List: One of a Kind: Rob Van Dam vs. John Cena: ECW One Night Stand 2006 - June 11, 2006 The Gold Medal Debut: Kurt Angle vs. John Cena, SmackDown - June 27, 2002 Dead Man Walking: Undertaker vs. John Cena: Vengeance 2003 - July 27, 2003 An Iconic WrestleMania: Undertaker vs. John Cena: WrestleMania 34 - April 8, 2018 Time to Play the Game: Triple H vs. John Cena: Night of Champions 2008 - June 29, 2008 A Phenomenal Clash: AJ Styles vs. John Cena: SummerSlam 2016 - August 21, 2016 Masterfully Manipulated: Edge vs. John Cena: SummerSlam 2006 - August 20, 2006 A Revolutionary Cashing In: Edge vs. John Cena: New Year's Revolution 2006 - January 8, 2006 Greatness Acknowledged: Roman Reigns vs. John Cena: SummerSlam 2021 - August 21, 2021 One on One with The Great One: The Rock vs. John Cena, WrestleMania 28 - April 1, 2012 Suplex - Rinse - Repeat: Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena: SummerSlam 2014 - August 17, 2014 Breaking the Chains: Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena: Backlash 2003 - April 27, 2003 The Animal's Rage: Batista vs. John Cena: SummerSlam 2008 - August 17, 2008 The Viper Strikes: Randy Orton vs. John Cena: Hell in a Cell 2009 - October 4, 2009 (Bonus) The Choice: You Pick John Cena's Opponent (Bonus) Didn't See That Coming: Opponent vs. Super Cena (Bonus) Council of Legends: John Cena vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs. Hulk Hogan vs. Bruno Sammartino Quote Editions (Standard/Deluxe/Icon): Standard Edition: - Base Game - (Pre-Order) Bad Bunny Bonus Pack: Playable Bad Bunny character and Ruby tier MyFACTION card Cross-Gen Digital Edition: - Download WWE 2K23 on Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S or PS4™ and PS5™ Deluxe Edition: - Base Game - Exclusive 3-Day Early Access. - Bad Bunny Bonus Pack - Season Pass: Includes all five DLC content packs; the MyRISE Mega-Boost and SuperCharger packs; Ruby John Cena MyFACTION Evo Card, Gold Edge MyFACTION Card, Emerald Bianca Belair MyFACTION Card, Gold Asuka MyFACTION Card, and three Basic Premium Launch MyFACTION Card Packs Icon Edition: - Base Game - original cover art by renowned WWE-inspired artist Rob Schamberger. - Exclusive 3-Day Early Access. - Bad Bunny Bonus Pack - Deluxe Edition Content - Ruthless Aggression Pack: celebrating 20 years of John Cena’s WWE career by featuring John Cena’s early “Prototype” character, as well as “Leviathan” Batista, developmental rookie versions of Brock Lesnar and Randy Orton, the John Cena Legacy Championship, and WrestleMania 22 Arena - Emerald Paul Heyman MyFACTION Manager Card and three Deluxe Premium Launch MyFACTION Card Packs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof_Sunshine Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 Helllll yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEggman Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 When was the RAW 2005 and Halloween Havoc arenas confirmed? I seen 2002 RAW in the stone cold pic but not 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb ★ Posted January 24 Author Report Share Posted January 24 ^ https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/store/wwe-2k23-supercharger-for-xbox-series-xs/9PGR1BPCQ3NK Description for the SuperCharger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEggman Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 31 minutes ago, Jeb ★ said: ^ https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/store/wwe-2k23-supercharger-for-xbox-series-xs/9PGR1BPCQ3NK Description for the SuperCharger Wonderful stuff thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM_EDGE Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 (edited) I'll be honest. I don't have too much hope for this. But then, I don't know what I expected. Don't get me wrong, I loved 2K22. Probably my most played WWE game in a very, very long time, maybe even more than 19 and I thought they did so, so much right with it. But everything we saw and heard and read from 23 so far, looks, to the littlest details, just like 22, in a way other games would simply release a big 2.0 patch for it. The graphics, the engine, the mode descriptions like My faction being back, not even slightly reinvented, even the cards look exactly the same (I swear if you don't unlock the attires and models for every mode this time....). My GM also sounded like just getting a tiny improvement with the little that we know. The main mode of the game also seems to be the same style again which bores me to death since forever. Sure it allows for certain attires and legends, but that's a positive and a negative in itself. Not even mentioning the fact that all these created attires, for no reason, never really come back for the next game, even tho they're created and exist. They could simply keep them added, but they rarely ever do and at best, put them into the creation mode. Watch Rey having 1 attire this year (plus what they use if he's in Cena's story mode) and see the rest vanishing into the past. Plus, we know for a fact that that like 80% of the themes in the game are now downgraded to the new garbage remix versions from Def Rebel (and a lot of ugly renames of wrestler happened) and I am not looking forward to that. Also, what slightly scares me, the game is out in under 2 months, Jesus, shortest marketing for the game ever? If it's out in 2 months, where was the cut off this time? I feel like A LOT of people who came back recently will be missing the game this time. What I am looking forward to tho, are of course potential new wrestlers, especially NXT people like Breakker being confirmed, and I hope they go all out here on NXT guys, already confirmed legends like RVD or Kurt Angle, finally a new match with WarGames and the extended create an entrance mode to be back and I'm slightly looking forward to the announced improvements of the Universe mode. Tho, they lied about that for the last like 9 titles in the last 10 years I don't even start to believe anything here. I am really mixed with what we know so far, it doesn't help that they're hitting us like a brick that it's just there in under 2 months (which means development is 100% finished and they are already working on the day one patch, nothing major can change from here on out anymore) But of course I'm on board and I will be getting it, so let's just hope for the very best here and for a strong community with a healthy CAW output. Edited January 24 by CM_EDGE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof_Sunshine Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 Their marketing has always been shit, usually they'll announce it months in advance and then say nothing until the final month. At least waiting till the last month to announce the game means they have very little time to waste so we should be getting more and more info in the upcoming weeks. Especially with the Rumble event announced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM_EDGE Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Prof_Sunshine said: Their marketing has always been shit, usually they'll announce it months in advance and then say nothing until the final month. At least waiting till the last month to announce the game means they have very little time to waste so we should be getting more and more info in the upcoming weeks. Especially with the Rumble event announced Oh that for sure, we should get news and videos and Screenshots non-stop from now on (kinda). I'm a bit worried there is almost no discussion here so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof_Sunshine Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 I mentioned in the previous thread that it sounds like people will be able to talk about what they saw/played from the Rumble event starting on Feb. 2nd, not sure what it'll entail exactly but we should get a few tidbits of info from that at the very least and hopefully some additional footage that 2K provided those people for their own videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonKortare Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 Is this the full roster or just the ones confirmed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarch98 Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 6 minutes ago, JasonKortare said: Is this the full roster or just the ones confirmed? Confirmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoastkody Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 for the record u are allowed to like whatever you like. Im sure i like tons of games that ppl would say suck. that said. I reserve the right to think u are insane. And bemoan that my fave wrestling game has been turned into THIS. And instead of ppl revolting against it and forcing 2K to do something about it.......everyone just lets it happen. They got away with making 2k20. A glitchy buggy game that crashes a ton. They never fully fixed it. Its still broken to this day. And we let them do that. 2k22 stripped away most of the gameplay we know. They pumped the game full of the Ultimate Team/MYTEAM microtransactions mode. Added tons of locked wrestlers to the mode. and we let it happen. i've said it before. WWE 2k22 is not a bad game. Other then the bugs and other things they don't fix. If it was called WWE 2K: FIGHT NIGHT and had a different art style and models that weren't realistic. I might like it (except the terrible a.i). But instead of making a side game to implement this brand new gameplay they took an existing franchise. With name value. And stripped it of its parts and converted it into something different. That is sneaky and disingenous. Imagine u buy the Ghost of Tsushima sequel, and it doesn't play like the original game. But now all of a sudden it plays like Dynasty Warriors. And everyone was thrilled about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judas priest superstar Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 I think anyone with a degree of sense understood that when Yukes quit the series, the game was going to change. And essentially start over. When they did start over, I was more concerned the game was going to eject match types and an entire generation of moves, ala the dreaded 2K14-2K15 changeover that set the game back years....and only with 2K18 and 19 did they get anywhere close to that high mark. So when they didn't nuke it entirely I was cool with it. Now, when I played 2k22 extensively I felt mixed. The models are mostly good, some excellent. Arenas are incredible. But losing advanced entrance hurt. Losing fatigued finishers hurt. Losing the classic gameplay hurt. And yet, here i am mildly excited about 23 because at least I know what this will feel like. AEW FF is too young and the models do not impress me, at all. Wrestling Code, we'll be lucky to see it and play it by end of 2024. FWIW, I don't mess with MyFaction (MTX is the devil), but like I said yesterday, if 2K lost the license, this game would be far far worse than it is now. So I'm content with it...provisionally. I still want certain things back. Advanced Entrance I need to see how exactly that works before I get excited. I want better AI that doesn't go for the damn top rope. I want actual true movesets (Righteous stay the hell away from this). And I want a game that isn't crashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoastkody Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 13 minutes ago, judas priest superstar said: I think anyone with a degree of sense understood that when Yukes quit the series, the game was going to change. And essentially start over. When they did start over, I was more concerned the game was going to eject match types and an entire generation of moves, ala the dreaded 2K14-2K15 changeover that set the game back years....and only with 2K18 and 19 did they get anywhere close to that high mark. So when they didn't nuke it entirely I was cool with it. Now, when I played 2k22 extensively I felt mixed. The models are mostly good, some excellent. Arenas are incredible. But losing advanced entrance hurt. Losing fatigued finishers hurt. Losing the classic gameplay hurt. And yet, here i am mildly excited about 23 because at least I know what this will feel like. AEW FF is too young and the models do not impress me, at all. Wrestling Code, we'll be lucky to see it and play it by end of 2024. FWIW, I don't mess with MyFaction (MTX is the devil), but like I said yesterday, if 2K lost the license, this game would be far far worse than it is now. So I'm content with it...provisionally. I still want certain things back. Advanced Entrance I need to see how exactly that works before I get excited. I want better AI that doesn't go for the damn top rope. I want actual true movesets (Righteous stay the hell away from this). And I want a game that isn't crashing. well looks like they got rid of Righteous, but unfortunately they brought back Bryan Williams. Two birds of a feather. Two passionate die-hard fans that have no understanding of movesets. Righteous vs. Bryan Williams in a ruin WWE 2k23 movesets speed run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonKortare Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 (edited) Trish Stratus is my favorite female in wrestling of all time. If she is confirmed in the game, that's awesome. If Trish is one of the legends, I would assume that Lita wouldn't be too far behind. I wouldn't be surprised if Lita was one of the ones that the fans complained about not having as a DLC. I can say the same thing for Paige too. Edited January 24 by JasonKortare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNX Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 It warms my heart that people still get excited for this sheeit. 22 was the first game I'd touched since 18 and while I appreciated something new and the gameplay, which I hated at first, wasn't quiiiiiiiiite as off-putting as I expected it to be, there was just nothing pulling me back in to play it anymore. Usually, I don't get to that point until all the unlocks are done but it feels like a chore playing it to me. I believe I grabbed it in May and haven't completed (as close to what I call "completed" year to year) a single CAW since. Any previous year, even if I dread playing matches I'll at least play in create modes a bit, run a few Universe match sims, but I can't even do that. I turn the game on, get my daily My Faction log in reward, turn the game off, IF I even get that far I love seeing what the community is able to do in the creation suites, working around the countless issues and limitations that these modes offer, always have and continue to appreciate that. You guys make amazing sheeit. This year I think I'll watch from the shadows like I normally do, but will ignore any potential sale later in the game's lifespan. From this point onward, I think I'm officially and indefinitely tapping out of the series. I've been so disconnected from wrestling, from the program down to this series that filled a huge portion of my gaming life, and the interest is so minute I think I'll be perfectly able to fight the urges to play any cool-looking sheeit this time. Hopefully VC can continue to move the series forward, get a better handle of all the systems they've been struggling with, and bring the franchise back to one that's universally beloved across both the casual and hardcore bases. A game devoid of consistent system crashes, save file deletions, progress-nuking creation suite issues, and weird gameplay immersion-breaking bugs that take actions that should make perfect sense but for whatever reason decide "Naw son... not hapnin" Oh, and deleted moves. Missing, possibly character-locked, less-than-a-year-old moves. Like... excuse me? Stop it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miguelnuva Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 Not gonna lie Wargames has me excited but I hope they get word life Cena in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiceTwice Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 The one thing I’m liking that I’m hearing is that created wrestlers now are more closer to in game models. If they pull that off right it could be great for creations. Hopefully they allow us to just apply a logo to trons for created wrestlers with some default movements to chose without having to make the created video and waste time with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb ★ Posted January 25 Author Report Share Posted January 25 Word Life Cena’s in the Deluxe Cover, but it’s weird we didn’t see a peek at that model in the Showcase trailer. speaking of, one thing I didn’t like about Rey’s showcase was no entrances, though it seems it’s gonna be the same this year unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb ★ Posted January 25 Author Report Share Posted January 25 https://checkpointgaming.net/features/2023/01/we-chatted-with-visual-concepts-all-about-wwe-2k23/ Springboard moves like the Cody Cutter can be assigned as finishers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr155551 Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 So One Final Beat ObLIVion and Willow’s Bell can now be set as finishers good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Dreadful Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, Jeb ★ said: https://checkpointgaming.net/features/2023/01/we-chatted-with-visual-concepts-all-about-wwe-2k23/ Springboard moves like the Cody Cutter can be assigned as finishers Cross will be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb ★ Posted January 25 Author Report Share Posted January 25 Just noticed this comes out the same day/week as Jedi Survivor, my poor wallet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennsoe Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, Jeb ★ said: https://checkpointgaming.net/features/2023/01/we-chatted-with-visual-concepts-all-about-wwe-2k23/ Springboard moves like the Cody Cutter can be assigned as finishers and you can even taunt with a weapon This is a feature I've wanted for years !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastcoastkody Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 what it feels like reading that article "we've added another Payback slot" u mean ur readding what u removed "we are expanding the stamina system, we are a SIMULATION of WWE" no. WWE 2k19 was a Simulation of WWE. We had stamina and fatigue and realistic gameplay already. then u ruined it "we are changing the pin system" AGAIN???? Do we really need a 3rd pin system in a row?? Ppl were excited for button mashing to return, but then u mess that up by making it just 1 button. Nobody wanted to just press 1 button. We wanted the classic 2 finger button mashing we are all used to from back in the day. Did i not call it like 10 months ago, that they are just going to slowly try to turn this back into where it already was. Its gonna take them 5 games to make the game good again. And undo all the stuff the new producer *censored*ed up. Why make an arcade fighter, and then try to turn it back into a SIM wrestling game again? It makes no sense. Lean into what u are creating. Lean into the fighting, and combos and wackiness. Add juggling. exaggerated selling etc. These ppl have no clue what they are making The ppl working on the game half of them probably want this new arcade fighter gameplay, and the other half want classic realistic gameplay. And that would explain why the new gameplay feels like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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