Graeme Jones Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 I hope fans shit all over rAWFUL when they return, because this shit sandwich get's worse and worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperThinWalls Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Mani-Man said: In the wwe for sure. But there was a time when Lower card titles were treated as more important that the actual big world title. Lower card titles are cool and beef up a show, afterall the lower and midcard is what is supposed to carry a show to the main event...but the wwe has long ago given up on any structure or even the idea that win/loses and titles have any value. Having said that...raw sucked, god damn did it suck. A show were Eva Marie is part of and where this dumbass isnt even the worst part of the show...is pretty bad. When and what promotion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mani-Man Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, PaperThinWalls said: When and what promotion? I mean wasnt the Ic Title in the WWF New Generation Era treated as more important than the World title? Or might just have been me that felt like stuff like the IWGP Junior Heavyweight title and so on had more value than the big titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin3035 Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 Well I remember one time they made a big deal about the European title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperThinWalls Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 51 minutes ago, Mani-Man said: I mean wasnt the Ic Title in the WWF New Generation Era treated as more important than the World title? Or might just have been me that felt like stuff like the IWGP Junior Heavyweight title and so on had more value than the big titles. No, the World was always the most important belt they had. And the IC title is a mid card title, which I’m fine with. It’s titles like the 24/7, Hardcore, TV, and European which I think are useless. The IWGP Junior Heavyweight title is a weight division title and as long they abide to a weight limit, I have no problem with it since it’s its own thing like a tag division title. As for it being more important than the World title? Back when I watched NJPW, it certainly wasn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperThinWalls Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 25 minutes ago, Austin3035 said: Well I remember one time they made a big deal about the European title When? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin3035 Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, PaperThinWalls said: When? lol I believe when it first debuted and when triple h had it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperThinWalls Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 British Bulldog was the inaugural champ and for the most part it was just there as decoration. Not really a big deal. Triple H got it from HBK who intentionally lost to him which exemplifies my point. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin3035 Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 55 minutes ago, PaperThinWalls said: British Bulldog was the inaugural champ and for the most part it was just there as decoration. Not really a big deal. Triple H got it from HBK who intentionally lost to him which exemplifies my point. lol Lower card belt on their world champion definitely gave it a huge boost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nerd Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 I can’t believe I wasn’t a fan of Riddle at first. Dude is just so entertaining to watch and listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperThinWalls Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Austin3035 said: Lower card belt on their world champion definitely gave it a huge boost No, it didn't. It was a prop. It meant nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-zero Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 4 hours ago, PaperThinWalls said: When and what promotion? I don't remember in the WWE when it was but the X-division in I believe 2007-2008ish was more important then the World title in TNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, X-zero said: I don't remember in the WWE when it was but the X-division in I believe 2007-2008ish was more important then the World title in TNA. He's talking about lower card titles, not midcard titles. Only times I've considered X-Division lower card was when they tried pushing the TV title or the Grand title, but the X-Division has outlived both of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-zero Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 46 minutes ago, Fight Me. said: He's talking about lower card titles, not midcard titles. Only times I've considered X-Division lower card was when they tried pushing the TV title or the Grand title, but the X-Division has outlived both of those. But can you have a mid anything without having atleast three of something? Since TNA only had two singles titles at the time the X-division would be the lower card title by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperThinWalls Posted July 6, 2021 Report Share Posted July 6, 2021 1 hour ago, X-zero said: But can you have a mid anything without having atleast three of something? Since TNA only had two singles titles at the time the X-division would be the lower card title by default. No, the mid-card refers to the talent in the middle of the card. That’s where the name comes from. You don’t need three titles to make the secondary title the mid-card title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin3035 Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 15 hours ago, PaperThinWalls said: No, it didn't. It was a prop. It meant nothing. Yeah but that's all wrestling titles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperThinWalls Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Austin3035 said: Yeah but that's all wrestling titles Nah, belts can be made to be important. It all depends on the booking and its purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin3035 Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 4 hours ago, PaperThinWalls said: Nah, belts can be made to be important. It all depends on the booking and its purpose. But at the end of the day there still props to move story's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperThinWalls Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 Yeah and some are more meaningful and have more significance than others. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Jones Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 rAWFUL got a 1.4 rating LMFAO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ! Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 would take that with a grain of salt tbh. being fresh off Independence Day weekend *may* have had an effect as well as hockey(?) and baseball having high stake games. Raw wasn’t exceptionally worse than it usually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Jones Posted July 7, 2021 Report Share Posted July 7, 2021 Ratings have been falling for years, but the 4th of July etc is an excuse Vince'll use. Fact of the matter is, Raw completely sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senex Beast Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 Raw is so damn pitiful now! Smackdown and NXT rules though or at least in comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Jones Posted July 8, 2021 Report Share Posted July 8, 2021 Roman Reigns has turned SmackDown into a damn good show, it's not great but I've been enjoying SD a HEAP more than Raw. NXT is also good, but damn do I miss the 1 hour taped shows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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