PaperThinWalls Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 I feel like I see Sammy wrestle on TV as much as T-Bar tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 Do people still watch this show and post here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 Nah ratings are down brother, it's the same handful of us here now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 I watch AEW weekly, because I have a group of friends who all watch it and chat about it as it happens. I haven't watched Raw or SD in a really long time. I popped into Raw the past week, just to give it a fair shot...but, I couldn't do it. It's a shame...because, there are a lot of concepts that I like in WWE right now. Conceptually, the product should be more appealing to me than it is. We have Keith Lee, Gulak, and Daniel Bryan all being featured regularly. Mustafa Ali push. We have AJ Styles with a badass bodyguard. Reigns is finally a heel. Drew has had a solid reign as champion. Big E has a singles push. All of these are things that I would like to "be here" for...but, I just can't. It's like...everything we've wanted as fans is finally happening...but the timing couldn't be worse, and I just don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counting Lights Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 What Gen said is exactly how I feel. SO much good stuff is happening on paper, but the presentation and magic is gone in so many ways. AEW's shows are just, I dunno, more fun? I genuinely think if they went back to 2 hours I might give RAW another go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperThinWalls Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 For me, the thing is WWE has had the best stuff in the past year. Roman Reigns, Paul Heyman, Drew, Sami Zayn, Randy Orton, Hurt Business, Edge. They may be surrounded by shit, but I'll easily take their work over AEW and NXT's best stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestInTheWorld614 Posted January 13, 2021 Report Share Posted January 13, 2021 I think Raw/Smackdown need fans the most. Vince may say that they are a television product and all the production values would say that but I truly believe Vince and company are still struggling on booking a show without fans. Everything just seems off. Now I’m not saying fans will fix all of the problems but I think Vince will have a better gauge and at least try to go with the audience or go against them but either way it makes him try. Everything on Raw and Smackdown feels like it’s just going through the motions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 WWE lost it's magic to me. You can pick out some fun things, but realizing they're never going to change makes watching pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Vercetti Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 Dig the attention Cesaro got on Twitter today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 I wonder what else they expect whenever they tweet out shit like "who's the most underrated/underused/underappreciated?" Like someone's gonna say Randy Orton or some shit lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nerd Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 On 1/5/2021 at 2:24 PM, Generations said: Don't hold back on WWE. There have been countless examples of other wrestling promotions doing great work during the pandemic. This is a WWE problem, not a pandemic problem. Let them have it. NJPW, AEW, and even Impact have all had successful storylines, and built some worthwhile pushes during the pandemic. MLW returned against all odds. Indy promotions like GCW and ICW:NHB have put on some of their best shows and kept their fans safe in the process. WWE is full of excuses on a good day...but they know exactly what they're doing. If they wanted to do things differently, they could and would. It's not their intention to do so. Not during the pandemic, and not when things go back to normal. Have to agree with you Gen. NJPW, AEW AND Impact have indeed have been thriving and having amazing storylines. At least their’s have continuity. Pandemic or not I feel I’d still be saying this. Indy’s have also been killing it you’re 100% right. Yet once again I find myself asking why I even bother with WWE? Aside from the people I enjoy, Raw remains trash despite being the first flagship. It’s *censored*ing sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 I hope we don't get all of the old Nakamura right away. Wait til he faces Reigns to go back to the old entrance/music and maybe even his old attires too. Kinda like when Eddie turned face before he passed and slowly went back to the old Eddie until he finally came back out in a lowrider thanks to Batista. It was a great moment. Actually, it's weird looking back and thinking how short lived that heel run was, basically just for the feud with Rey. Especially with how good he was at the time...but people just wanted to cheer Eddie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb ★ Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 Turn Cesaro face while we're at it please, Wrestling Gods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 Tozawa coming out on Main Event... Tom: How much do you know about ninjas? Samoe Joe: You'd be surprised how much I know about ninjas. Also, do they not have smaller names to call this show??? Joe and Tom too big for this lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Tf am I watching in VR or something lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperThinWalls Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Heyman is so incredible in this role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb ★ Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 The BLOODLINE Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Old theme but they cut the intro why!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb ★ Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 The OG theme Still wondering where Cesaro is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Cesaro pls don't break our hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb ★ Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 They better not keep Cesaro heel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperThinWalls Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Phew, I thought there was going to be some bullshit there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperThinWalls Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 See, now that was great storytelling and characterization. Excellent segment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmerc Posted January 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 DING DONG, HELLO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 So did anybody catch this lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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