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Official WWE 2K20 Discussion Thread II

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We'll get at least 1 more "update" with the final DLC. Interested to see if they keep going after that or just drop support like previous versions.

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I'd love to the surprised, but I'm guessing it will be dropped like a hot potato once that final DLC launches.

Makes me wish I could wipe the memory of 2K20 from this old brain, been the worst year for the franchise... both with the game itself, and their lackluster promotion.

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SVR 11, WWE 12 and 13 had a lot of problems, but they were playable right up to before the next game was released. Unlike 2K20. My favourite WWE game believe it or not, is 2K14. I had fun making CAWs, making logos via paint tool (which I'd love to be brought back) and I played matches online everyday without being noobinated.

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SO... I decided to play a bit further into my career and... Samoa Joe with a literal cyborg arm.

*Censored* whoever wrote this drivel.

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The writing was on the wall with promo for the game this fall.  This is probably the most disappointing game of the series... which is weird following 2k19 which I would probably call the best or if not top 3 games of the series to me. 
 

as bad as some of the games have been, I’ve found myself still playing close to release date of next game. This game is the first I’ve stopped playing so early. 

 

 

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I only played a few Matches to test the early caws I had created and gave up right after since it messed stuff up the whole time so I couldnt Play universe or anything else without issues at all.

The caw creation and universe are the modes I Play in every game and both are broken on this one. Never had such a game in the series before for sure.

Beyond dissappointed at this Point. So far that I'll definately won't be getting WWE2K21 if there should be one and if the 21 is as broken as the 20 is then I'll definately quit the series entirely.

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Career Mode is a goddamn joke. It's sexist and *censored*ing terrible. IF there is a Career Mode for 2K21? It'd better be realistic and equal (assuming they go with the male/female combo again) and let US give them their names for *Censored* sake!

Rant over.

Edited by Graeme Jones

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WWE 2K20... without a doubt, it was 2019's biggest cash grab, and the sorriest excuse of a video game.

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As 2K21 has to be underway, I can’t help but feel positive about what we are going to get, because they have never suffered such a backlash before. I mean everyone was talking about 2K20....careful what you wish for I guess, because it was for all the worst reasons. I refuse to believe the games that came out when we were kids are as good as wrestling games will ever get. That’s bullshit and based purely on nostalgia. Visual Concepts, now that you know better, let’s turn the wrestling game genre on its ear. Less wacky, this time.

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Naw, more wacky stuff. Just no stupid ass glitches and game breaking things. Wacky wasn’t the issue. The games of the pay were wacky in their own rights. 

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I disagree, they went way overboard on the wacky stupid shit. The old DLC model was just fine and I utterly despise them just releasing fantasy style towers (I mean I hate towers in the first place), and the weird fantasy shit in the career mode is pretty *censored*ing awful too.

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1 hour ago, BrandonX said:

I disagree, they went way overboard on the wacky stupid shit. The old DLC model was just fine and I utterly despise them just releasing fantasy style towers (I mean I hate towers in the first place), and the weird fantasy shit in the career mode is pretty *censored*ing awful too.

So...you’d rather go back to the old system of no new arenas, no new weapons, and only a handful of new superstars and moves? Bump in the Night alone pretty much matches 2K19’s entire output. I can see your point though about going fantasy vs reality, though I feel that goes back to them running out of both legends and NXT guys they can use, so they went with their only option. And looking at the list of guys and girls they picked (Velveteen Dream, Johnny Gargano, Jack Gallagher, Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns, Baron Corbin, 4 Horsewomen, Ember Moon, Lana, S’Moe Joe, Randy Orton, Bray Wyatt, Braun Strowman, Tyler Breeze, Finn Bálor, Aleister Black, Batista, Ricochet, Sheamus, Cesaro, Ohno, Roode, I’m most likely missing a few but you get the point.) there isn’t much option for past versions that could be useful, most of them have kept the same themes and moveset for their entire WWE careers. OK, maybe you could argue for Shield Seth & Roman, but then people would bitch because of no Ambrose to complete the set. Plus the showcase pretty much covers every edition of the Horsewomen up to the game’s release. Honestly, out of that list, the only alts you could do and cause the least backlash possible are Evolution Batista, Legend Killer Randy Orton and Lobster Head Sheamus. Not much of a DLC there really.

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11 hours ago, King RyderFan said:

So...you’d rather go back to the old system of no new arenas, no new weapons, and only a handful of new superstars and moves? Bump in the Night alone pretty much matches 2K19’s entire output. I can see your point though about going fantasy vs reality, though I feel that goes back to them running out of both legends and NXT guys they can use, so they went with their only option. And looking at the list of guys and girls they picked (Velveteen Dream, Johnny Gargano, Jack Gallagher, Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns, Baron Corbin, 4 Horsewomen, Ember Moon, Lana, S’Moe Joe, Randy Orton, Bray Wyatt, Braun Strowman, Tyler Breeze, Finn Bálor, Aleister Black, Batista, Ricochet, Sheamus, Cesaro, Ohno, Roode, I’m most likely missing a few but you get the point.) there isn’t much option for past versions that could be useful, most of them have kept the same themes and moveset for their entire WWE careers. OK, maybe you could argue for Shield Seth & Roman, but then people would bitch because of no Ambrose to complete the set. Plus the showcase pretty much covers every edition of the Horsewomen up to the game’s release. Honestly, out of that list, the only alts you could do and cause the least backlash possible are Evolution Batista, Legend Killer Randy Orton and Lobster Head Sheamus. Not much of a DLC there really.

Arenas I won't use because I have no interest in fantasy silliness, I really don't think new weapons should be DLC at all, and what exactly did we get as new superstars? All we really ended up with was a bunch of caw parts slapped on to existing models. At that point, just make CAW part packs and skip the needless bullshit.

The old model was fine but if they're worried about running out of content, support more move packs and focus DLC on story content that doesn't read like it was written by some developers five year old child. How about story add-ons for My Career or the 2K originals (without forcing them to be *censored*ing tower mode), how about add-ons for universe mode? aformentioned CAW part packs, move packs, original music packs (since we're clearly not getting custom music back).

That said I don't think we're even at risk of running out of wrestlers to put in as DLC in the first place. Most of the NXT UK roster, plenty of the NXT roster. Hell, work out a deal with their affiliates like EVOLVE to get some of their non-NXT roster in the game, why the hell not. But this fantasy horseshit isn't fun to play, its only useful for adding CAW parts and moves that feel unnaturally sped up.

The old model wasn't perfect but I sure as hell enjoy it more than this, almost none of the content being released in it is content i'll use or enjoy.

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No patch notes on a 12GB update.... makes sense, given the 2K20 track record.

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46 minutes ago, BrandonX said:

Arenas I won't use because I have no interest in fantasy silliness, I really don't think new weapons should be DLC at all, and what exactly did we get as new superstars? All we really ended up with was a bunch of caw parts slapped on to existing models. At that point, just make CAW part packs and skip the needless bullshit.

The old model was fine but if they're worried about running out of content, support more move packs and focus DLC on story content that doesn't read like it was written by some developers five year old child. How about story add-ons for My Career or the 2K originals (without forcing them to be *censored*ing tower mode), how about add-ons for universe mode? aformentioned CAW part packs, move packs, original music packs (since we're clearly not getting custom music back).

That said I don't think we're even at risk of running out of wrestlers to put in as DLC in the first place. Most of the NXT UK roster, plenty of the NXT roster. Hell, work out a deal with their affiliates like EVOLVE to get some of their non-NXT roster in the game, why the hell not. But this fantasy horseshit isn't fun to play, its only useful for adding CAW parts and moves that feel unnaturally sped up.

The old model wasn't perfect but I sure as hell enjoy it more than this, almost none of the content being released in it is content i'll use or enjoy.

3 of the 4 arenas aren’t actually THAT gimmicky. Pin Drop Plaza works really well for empty arena matches or “before the show” stuff while Southpaw works as an 80s PPV and Overlord’s Colosseum is a great Indy-esque venue. And why can’t weapons be DLC? As for new superstars, admittedly we only got Fiend and Sea Creature that could count as fully “new”guys, and even Fiend’s just an alt of Bray. And a lot of them are new models in their own right. I can’t see Wicked Aleister Black or Demon King Finn Balor using the original template.  
 

Not going to argue about a story add-on for MyCareer, though what could they add to Universe? New match types? Possibly, but not enough to make a DLC on its own.  New belts? Already added some this year.  And we’re getting our moves pack in with the Originals, same with the custom theme stuff. 
 

Given how WWE treats NXT: UK, I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that there was a flat no on putting any of the people in, barring a very tiny handful of selections that were in last year (Dunne, Moustache Mountain, [barring Trent, who got a bit of backlash for not being in last year] Dar) or that they REALLY like. (Rhea, Toni) Also, any Indy guy not under a WWE contract is a pipe dream. And for the remaining NXT: US guys, all it takes is a veto from either the WWE or the talent themselves to not have them in. See the Ciampa/Cross/Kendrick controversy last year. Honestly, it feels like the route 2K had to take seeing as there was no other option. And I think the moves being awkwardly sped up was a glitch, and lot of them have been adjusted to more natural speeds.

 

I understand your view on it not being fun, but I do feel it was 2K’s only option for this year, lest you want them to intentionally hold people back for DLC.

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The patch is getting KILLED at the 2k forum though..

Here are the patch notes;

https://updatecrazy.com/wwe-2k20-patch-1-08-details-for-ps4-pc-xbox-one/

 

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WWE 2K20 Patch 1.08 changelog (Updating)
* Addressed graphics related issues.
* Added AI improvments.
* Fixed crashes and freezing
* Added online stability improvements.
* Fixed gameplay and control issues.
* Added various other under the hood fixes.
(Full Patch Notes will be available soon. please check back in few minutes)
Previously following changes added to the game
GENERAL
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur within the Main Menu
* Addresses reported concerns that game may freeze at various points
* Addresses reported concerns that managers may not have hometowns set
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when trying to delete a Custom Arena that is being used in a Universe Save from the Deletion utility
* Addresses reported concerns where MyCareer Unlockable Superstars failed to be present when choosing managers in the Edit Superstars Roster Menu
* Addresses reported concerns when returning from standby or suspended mode
* Addresses various other reported concerns throughout the game
GAMEPLAY
* Addresses reported concerns with certain entrance and custom entrance animations
* Addresses reported concerns that Superstars may warp, clip, float or fall during certain animations and scenarios
* Addresses reported concerns with the appearance of hairstyles in gameplay and Appearance Menu in Create A Superstar
* Addresses reported concerns where changes made to the crowd’s reaction failed to be applied when observing the crowd during gameplay
* Addresses reported concerns with Sliders failing to take effect in gameplay after being changed in the Options menu
* Addresses reported concerns where visual corruption may occur
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when selecting the controller assignment menu option from the pause menu during gameplay
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when going into Universe with custom characters or 8-man matches with custom characters
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when completing a custom WWE Championship title Ladder Match
* Addresses reported visual concerns related to Custom Championships
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when entering an Elimination Chamber match
* Addresses reported concerns that users may load into corrupted matches when using save data from the base game or previous patches
CREATIONS
* Create a Superstar:☺Addresses reported concerns with hair dye, custom image tattoos and multiple piercings
* Create a Superstar:☺Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when selecting Candice LeRae in Create a Superstar
* Create a Superstar:☺Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when adding logos in Create A Superstar
* Create a Superstar:☺Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when importing attire parts onto other Superstars
* Create a Superstar:☺Addresses reported concerns with being unable to access Custom Images throughout Creations
* Create a Superstar:☺Addresses reported concerns where the Side Plates option wasn’t found when searching in Personal Information menu of Create a Superstar
* Create a Superstar:☺Addresses reported concerns that Roster settings may fail to be applied when creating a Custom variant of a WWE Superstar in Create a Superstar
* Create a Superstar:☺Addresses reported concerns where color changes made to parts may revert back to a default color
* Create a Superstar:☺Addresses reported concerns with editing a Block Body
* Create a Championship:☺Addresses various reported concerns with custom championships, side plate creation, and assigning side plates to Superstars
* Create a Championship:☺Addresses reported concerns with being unable to delete custom titles that are assigned to Universe Shows
* Community Creations:☺Addresses reported concerns where Images were missing when downloading a Custom Championship with Custom Images applied and observing it in gameplay
* Community Creations:☺Addresses reported concerns in Uploads where Creator Rank didn’t display correct “Until Next Rank” goals
* Create a Victory:☺Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur on a loading screen when attempting to enter Create A Victory
* Create an Arena:☺Addresses reported concerns with stage construction assets in Create an Arena
* Create an Arena:☺Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when entering the Advanced Creations menu of a Custom Superstar when creating an entrance
* Create an Arena:☺Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when applying images in Create an Arena
* Create a Move:☺Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when entering the Create a Move-Set menu after previously uploading custom move-sets in Community Creations
* Create a Move:☺Addresses reported concerns about an infinite loading screen which occurred when selecting Toni Storm in Create a Move-Set
* Create a Move:☺Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when exiting the Move-Set in Creation a Move-set
* Create a Video:☺Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when leaving the preview for Universe Cutscene containing a female Custom Superstar in Create a Video
* Create a Video:☺Addresses reported concerns with encoded videos playing at a low framerate when viewed in Create a Video
ONLINE
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur in online lobbies
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when starting a second match in Online
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur after completing a One on One, or Last Man Standing, match in Online
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when the host quits out of a game in Online
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur on loading screen when choosing to play another round after completing a One on One match in Online
* Addresses reported concerns when loading into an Online Triple Threat Match
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur after recovering from a network error that occurred in a post-match lobby when selecting Quick Play
UNIVERSE
* Addresses reported concerns with changes to the arena failing to apply when editing matches in the Tonight’s Show menu in Universe
* Addresses reported concerns with Customized Championship title matches being reset when using titles downloaded from Community Creations and then exiting from Universe
* Addresses reported concerns with being unable to set an alt attire that was created through Create A Superstar for an already in-progress Universe
* Addresses reported concerns that a crash may occur as the referee signals for the match to start in an 8-Man Elimination Tag Team Match at Survivor Series in Universe
* Addresses reported concerns that a crash may occur after accepting an invitation while simulating a match in Universe Calendar
* Addresses reported concerns that a crash may occur when viewing the Match Up screen of Full Preview in Universe
* Addresses reported concerns with the post-match run-in sequence not occurring properly when the winner of the match is a champion and the run-in superstar is the MITB holder in Universe
* Addresses reported concerns that a crash may occur when playing 8-man tag matches in Universe
* Addresses reported concerns that a crash may occur while playing through Universe causing Custom Shows & Divisions to inaccessible
* Addresses reported concerns that custom show settings may be erased when closing & reopening the title while in the Universe Menu
* Addresses reported concerns that a crash may occur after setting the entry order for all participants in a Royal Rumble
MYPLAYER/MYCAREER
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when suspending the title during the “Randomization” in MyPlayer settings in Creations
* Addresses reported concerns with challenges failing to track
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur in MyCareer load screens
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when selecting the default appearance and then confirming an eye color when customizing the MyPlayer in the MyPlayer Wizard
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when playing through the Chapter 1 MITB match and viewing the mid-match cutscene in MyCareer
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes or errors may occur related to various MyPlayer Towers
* Addresses reported concerns that placeholder text may be displayed and a crash may be encountered when loading into the MyPlayer ‘Single’ victory edit menu
* Addresses reported concerns that saved changes may be reset to default when editing and loading the Team Entrance or Tag Victory from the MyPlayer Home menu
* 
* Addresses reported concerns that an Attire Preset lower arm item may be locked when entering MyPlayer Appearance
* Addresses reported concerns that loss of functionality may occur after switching selection during the Hub screen in Chapter Two, Act Seven of MyCareer
* Addresses reported concerns that VC may be lost when starting the game without Internet access, reconnecting, buying into the PPV event and closing the title on the Road to Glory menu
* Addresses reported concerns with an infinite loading screen that may occur when selecting MyPlayer for the first time
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur at various points in MyCareer when pressing the continue prompt to advance to the next Chapter or Act
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur after completing objectives at various points in MyCareer
2K CENTRAL
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when viewing the Charlotte Flair video package before the first match in “The Four Horsewomen” Showcase
* Addresses reported concerns with the game launching from a terminated state after performing a connected standby during gameplay in the Four Horsewoman mode in 2K Central
* Addresses reported concerns that Charlotte Flair may occasionally fall through the mat after viewing or skipping the cutscene in Match 14 of Showcase
AUDIO
* Addresses reported concerns with The WWE European Championship having the incorrect ring announcement when viewing the championship introduction in gameplay
* Addresses reported concerns with Grand Championship Batista’s entrance music missing
* Addresses reported concerns with Ali Fortune Fighter failing to have his unique entrance music when viewed in Create an Entrance
* Addresses reported concerns that certain issues may occur in connection with Music Jukebox
2K ORIGINALS
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur from a side plate being obtained
* Addresses reported concerns with a Showcase objective not completing when performing Springboard Blackout finisher in the ring
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when loading into or exiting matches, Towers or Showcases in 2K Originals
* Addresses reported concerns with The Wasteland Wanderers failing to be available initially after purchasing the DLC key and proceeding into the 2K Originals menu
* Addresses reported concerns with entrances and cutscenes failing to trigger when playing through the Demon Within Showcase
* Addresses reported concerns with rewards for Wasteland Wanderer DLC being unlocked before meeting unlock conditions when viewed in Create a Superstar
* Addresses reported concerns that DLC Weapon Skins may fail to apply when attempting to set favorite weapon skins in the Customization menu of MyPlayer
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when quitting out of the second match of the “Trapped With Me” tower in the Wasteland Wanderers DLC
* Addresses reported concerns with MyPlayer attire items not unlocking when completing the Grip of the Overlord Showcase in the Wasteland Wanderers DLC and The Demon Within Showcase in the Bump in the Night DLC
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when loading into TALK scenes for certain Showcase matches of the Bump in the Night and Wasteland Wanderers DLC
* Addresses reported concerns that crashes may occur when coming from Community Creations and entering a Showcase match in any 2K Originals content
WWE 2K20 update 1.08 is available for download on PS4 and Xbox One.

Edited by glennsoe

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Once again I wasted one hour of my time downloading a huge patch that fixed almost Nothing, went to the Image uploader and it's still the same issue as Always, you upload Images and they won't Show in game.

Nothing fixed on this Department.

According to People that tested a lot of other Things almost all issues are still in the game. A Long list of supposed issues that were "fixed" only to Show that they did something when the only Thing they mainly did was fix like 3-4 Things and serve us a huge bag of lies on the other Things. I'm done wasting my time with this shit seriously.  

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Welp that's the last patch for this game

 Honestly good or not, once this last DLC is out I'm glad they'll be done with it and can just work on not *censored*i g up 2k21.

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2 hours ago, BrandonX said:

Welp that's the last patch for this game

 Honestly good or not, once this last DLC is out I'm glad they'll be done with it and can just work on not *censored*i g up 2k21.

They’re going to *Censored* up 2K21. I don’t understand how anyone can have any optimism about the next game. 
 

Look how long they have been patching this game, with the big backlash around it and lower sales. Look how many updates we’ve had. They don’t know how to use/fix the engine. If they did, this shit would be sorted by now. Same as any other game that has a bad launch.
 

I’ll lay down a bet right now. 2K21 will be *censored*ed. 2K22 or possibly 2K23 is built on a new in house engine made by Visual Concepts and the WWE 2K franchise will be starting from scratch with everything.      

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1 minute ago, biddilybah said:

 I don’t understand how anyone can have any optimism about the next game. 

100% agreed

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