Mr.Dreadful Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 Brock Lesnar has a very fine deal with WWE and it turns out that he also has creative control. During Wrestling Observer Radio, Dave Meltzer discussed the power that Brock Lesnar has over Vince McMahon. People might hate this fact, but it’s apparently 100% the case. This means that Lesnar is only losing when he decides he wants to. He can also nix a program before it even gets started. “Whether he’s a babyface or a heel, Brock’s only going so far for the team. Brock’s not gonna like… when it comes to Brock and Vince, people hate this, but when it comes to Brock and Vince — Brock is the one who calls the shots, not Vince and Brock can get away with anything and people hate hearing that. In the end, it’s still Vince’s company, but Brock isn’t doing anything that Brock doesn’t want to do. Every program, when he loses he wants to lose… every program, that’s just how it is you know it’s an interesting thing.” This creative control for Brock Lesnar is one of the reasons why Jon Moxley shot about their WrestleMania encounter. There were a lot of very good ideas on the table, but Lesnar nixed them all and just decided to have a typical Brock Lesnar match instead. We’ll have to see what Brock Lesnar’s next steps are as WWE Champion, but apparently there is at least one Superstar with creative control and it’s the Beast Incarnate. https://www.wrestlingattitude.com/2019/10/backstage-news-on-brock-lesnars.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willows Way Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 Thats pathetic really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey D. Jiggy Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 Oh. My bad lads for saying you're unable to like get the most out of Lesnar and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counting Lights Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 Aaaaand my hatred for Brock rises more and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senex Beast Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 Just when I was starting to like Brock again. I know he's a unique attraction and star but Vince is actually willing to give him power like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AONO. Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 Has anything new been actually said with this? I don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 How...How can they put their Championship on a person with such a contract? This is literally Inokiism. Did they hire Cain in hopes that they can have a shoot title change, if Brock Lesnar refuses to do the job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AONO. Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 It never said it's in his contract. But I wasn't being sarcastic, all it says that here is that he has big influence over Vince... I mean, was that not known? I'm not believing that it happened that Vince really wanted Brock to drop the belt but Lesnar refused and held it hostage. What revelatory stuff from a few sentences by Meltzer am I missing here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestInTheWorld614 Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 I doubt the full creative control in the contract but Im sure Vince goes above and beyond to keep Brock happy so if Brock doesnt want to do something, it doesnt get done. Again I dont think its black and white in his contract but Brock is able to say yes and no to things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AONO. Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 ^ Well yeah, basically. It's been like that for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ! Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 yeah i dont know why this is news to anybody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 I wish I had a job like that tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M3J Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Lucky Brocky, but dang, Vince is silly for this. Didn't he do the same with Hogan back in the 90s, and it came back to bite him in the ass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Bro Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 yeah i dont know why this is news to anybody Same... I always had the suspicion that Brock has some kind of "power" over Vinny Mac. It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushy. Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Its news to me? I had no idea til I listed to the show that Brock had so much power over his push. I remember hearing a few years ago that he was willing to put people over (because he has in the past) but I didnt know he was the driving force behind it himself. So yeah...this was a surprise to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Brock has made a lifetime and a career of doing what he wants. Even if UFC, where everyone is kinda walking on eggshells all the time...(it doesn't get more "you can't control me" than shitting on a sponsor and plugging a different beer on live television). Still, I think the wording in this report is a bit off. I think Brock mostly does what WWE wants, because they're paying him. But he isn't going to do anything that will discredit what he perceives his character to be...and that's honestly a good thing. If more people had that power, we probably wouldn't have had that horseshit HiaC finish. But, yeah...I don't necessarily see Brock as saying "no...I'm not putting anyone over". I know it's the general perception that the guy is a selfish bastard. But, I think he does have a mind for what works and what doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROSS-Out Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 I wouldn't hate brock half as much if he didn't have a history of half-assing his matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunchbox Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Riddle should shoot on Brock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senex Beast Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Want him to get destroyed? Brock may not respond with "we need to talk" and "I'm not your bro" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Riddle wont get destroyed lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ! Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 i honestly got Riddle handling literally anybody, including Brock, in a shoot fight. Goldberg old ass would easily get slept, Brock would take a little longer but he would go nighty night too. but then again Brock could pretty much maul him. nevermind i dont know. i would like to see how a worked match with them would go though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Riddle wont get destroyed lol If he shot on Brock? Yeah, he would. Brock is still the stronger of the two, with a hell of a meanstreak. If Riddle tried to shoot wrestle him, Brock would go from "doing a job" to "murder everything" very quickly. You're disregarding the part where he would have no actual rules to follow, and could respond with unmitigated rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunchbox Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 Riddle would win, dude didn't retire from MMA cause he was bad, he just wanted to smoke. Brock isn't even that good of a fighter, just a big body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted October 10, 2019 Report Share Posted October 10, 2019 You're not talking about Brock vs Riddle in an mma match with guidelines...you're talking about Riddle trying to embarrass Brock. I'm pretty sure that man would snap. Brock might be taken down and submitted. What then? He's happy about that? No. Rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miguelnuva Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 I'm picking Brock over Riddle in a shoot fight till I see proof otherwise. As for creative control one day Wwe needs to not cave in to Brock. Worse that happens is he goes to AEW. If Vince tried he could create several Brock level stars, he's done it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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