Who Do You Want To See In AEW?

[Generations]

^ It's not the "correct term"...it's the term that they wish to be called. The correct term is still "man". Nyla Rose is a man.

 

Science is more important to me than how people feel.

 

There's nothing wrong with wanting to change your body one way or the other. I ain't gonna discriminate against those people. I'm sure Nyla is a perfectly pleasant person, and I would have no issues with "her" in real life...

 

But at the same time, I'm not a "*censored*" (not even sure what insult/expletive you're calling me here)...an asshole? I'm not an asshole just because I don't use the term than that someone wants me to. That's not something that I "have" to do...or feel "guilty" about not doing. Nyla is still a man. Always will be. That's just the way it goes. But, that's a dead horse that nobody needs to beat any further. I'm fine with intergender wrestling...and that's what it is when Nyla performs against women. So, it's really not an issue. But I still wouldn't want Killer Kelly jobbing to a performer that I don't consider to be anything special.

[King RyderFan]

Jesus H. Christ Gen...

[Generations]

Jesus H. Christ Gen...

 

I'm the one getting called an expletive just for being factually accurate.

 

But, sure...I'm the bad guy.

 

Why not? *shrug*

[King RyderFan]

 

 

Jesus H. Christ Gen...

I'm the one getting called an expletive just for being factually accurate.

 

But, sure...I'm the bad guy.

 

Why not? *shrug*

You're not being accurate though. The correct term is what they wish to be called, not whatever "science fact" you can think of. Simple as. You getting called expletives because you are behaving like one.

[Generations]

 

The correct term is what they wish to be called, not whatever "science fact" you can think of.

 

Lol...no.

 

Anyway, sure...Killer Kelly would be cool in AEW, if they had a better women's division.

 

Moving on...

[King RyderFan]

 

 

The correct term is what they wish to be called, not whatever "science fact" you can think of.

Lol...no.

 

Anyway, sure...Killer Kelly would be cool in AEW, if they had a better women's division.

 

Moving on...

Yes actually. You don't get to be a transphobe and move on.

[Generations]

 

Yes actually. You don't get to be a transphobe and move on.

 

 

 

I'm not a "transphobe" just because I won't call them what they want to be called.

 

For real, stop being a fool.

 

There are people out there who tattoo their whole bodies with cat stripes or lizard scales. And I'm not calling them a cat or a lizard just because they want me to. It doesn't mean that I have a problem with who they are...it just means that I can't bring myself to say some shit that is 100% not accurate. I'm not going to pretend that they are actually a lizard just to play along...same as I'm not going to pretend that a man who had surgery is actually a woman, because he never will be. And none of that means that I have a problem with that person. So, kill that noise.

[King RyderFan]

 

 

Yes actually. You don't get to be a transphobe and move on.

 

 

I'm not a "transphobe" just because I won't call them what they want to be called.

 

For real, stop being a fool.

 

There are people out there who tattoo their whole bodies with cat stripes or lizard scales. And I'm not calling them a cat or a lizard just because they want me to. It doesn't mean that I have a problem with who they are...it just means that I can't bring myself to say some shit that is 100% not accurate. I'm not going to pretend that they are actually a lizard just to play along...same as I'm not going to pretend that a man who had surgery is actually a woman, because he never will be. And none of that means that I have a problem with that person. So, kill that noise.

No. It isn't "noise" and there is a whole world of difference between someone born the wrong gender and people who get tattoos like that. Stop trying to reach to justify your bigoted logic. Intentionally misgendering a transgender (as you've done multiple times) person is transphobic. If anyone's being a fool, it's you.

[Generations]

 

No. It isn't "noise" and there is a whole world of difference between someone born the wrong gender and people who get tattoos like that. Stop trying to reach to justify your bigoted logic. Intentionally misgendering a transgender (as you've done multiple times) person is transphobic. If anyone's being a fool, it's you.

 

 

If those people feel like they should have been born as a cat or a lizard, and you're saying they aren't allowed to feel that way, then you're talking WAY more shit than I am. Just saying.

 

At no point did I deny that people are allowed to feel like they should be someone or something other than how they were born. I'm fine with the concept that someone was born a way that they don't identify, and there's no problem if they wish to change. But I don't NEED to call them any specific thing. You pretty much just said the complete opposite. So...whatever. If you need to be dramatic and call me a bigot for no damn reason...have fun with that. Nyla Rose is not a woman...and you are derailing this entire topic with your baseless drama.

[King RyderFan]

 

 

No. It isn't "noise" and there is a whole world of difference between someone born the wrong gender and people who get tattoos like that. Stop trying to reach to justify your bigoted logic. Intentionally misgendering a transgender (as you've done multiple times) person is transphobic. If anyone's being a fool, it's you.

 

If those people feel like they should have been born as a cat or a lizard, and you're saying they aren't allowed to feel that way, then you're talking WAY more shit than I am. Just saying.

 

At no point did I deny that people are allowed to feel like they should be someone or something other than how they were born. I'm fine with the concept that someone was born a way that they don't identify, and there's no problem if they wish to change. But I don't NEED to call them any specific thing. You pretty much just said the complete opposite. So...whatever. If you need to be dramatic and call me a bigot for no damn reason...have fun with that. Nyla Rose is not a woman...and you are derailing this entire topic with your baseless drama.

No I'm not full of shit. There is a WORLD of difference between the two, stop trying to compare them. It's a reach and you know it. Also, where did I say they werent allowed to feel that way?

 

Ill give you that you didn't outright say it yet, but constantly misgendering isn't helping your case. I'm saying you call trans people what they want to be called, not what you personally feel like they should be called.

[Generations]

Leroy Green.

 

I would like to see Leroy Green in AEW.

 

His gimmick where he plays the Nintendo Switch all match would mesh nicely with Orange Cassidy.

[Oresama]

Trans woman is a term that only exists to describe somebody that identifies as a women and/or is actively transitioning/has transitioned from male to female and vice versa for trans man so yes, trans woman is the correct term for Nyla Rose and all transgender women. That doesn't even fall into your argument against calling her (just) a woman. You called Nyla a trans man, spouted a whole load of bullshit over this for no reason and then tried to pull the old "but I'm not a transphobe" card. Yes, yes you are.

Also, asshole isn't censored on this site so if I was calling you an asshole, it would say that. The expletive rhymes with Marko Stunt.

[Lunchbox]

Honestly who gives a shit man or women or trans shes just not a good wrestler and thats all i give a *Censored* about. Shes a talent that is actually gonna be hurt by AEW not working house shows cause shes not going to improve doing the occasional match every few weeks.

[Counting Lights]

Holy shit, what did I just walk into...

 

Nyla is certainly a bad worker. Like, she has potential to be a hoss, but she needs a LOT of work. I'd say take her off the road and let her train with Dustin, Gunn and whoever else AEW has to work with greener talents for a few months. There's no shame in that. We have Awesome Kong to fill the hoss spot in the womens division anyway, and she can do a much better job of it.

 

Also just throwing this out there, but if someone asks you to call them a certain pronoun, you're literally creating the problem by refusing to do so. Whatever your stance is on the issue, why butt head with something that has zero affect on you or your life? Just use something gender neutral like "They" if it's really that big a deal to you (which it shouldn't be).

[PaperThinWalls]

Awesome Kong is filming the next season of GLOW. Plus, she cant work like she used to, so Im not sure if shes that much better than Rose.

 

They should be protecting Rose (or any other inexperienced worker for that matter) better than they have. It would also be nice if they had more vets on their roster to carry and guide the greener talent.

[Saturi]

I don't know why some say Nyla is a bad worker. I watched several good Matches with her down in Japan when she worked for various promotions there to further her craft and she also had several good Matches in the US and elsewhere.

Her match vs Riho in which she won the Championship was a good match and most of all a fun one with all the big moves pulled out making you think it's over when it wasn't.

 

At least I enjoyed their Encounter and saying that someone that can pull moves like the avalance from the top rope or the knee strike that always connects on the Opponent hanging on the ropes is a "bad wrestler" then I really don't know what is good to you.

Flashier moves like jumping around 24/7 with barely connecting at all like several male wrestlers do?

 

The AEW Womens Division suffered under Rihos Championship reign because she was more busy with being a Champion down in Stardom then being in the AEW. At least now they have the chance to build up the Division properly and instead of just having Matches for the ranking System I dislike, they can also have feuds and storylines making the fans care more and have more then just a match to be entertained from.

 

Last week they had a great start in Dark and in Dynamite. They just need to continue this and put more effort in the Division from now on. They have a good roster after all.

 

No. It isn't "noise" and there is a whole world of difference between someone born the wrong gender and people who get tattoos like that. Stop trying to reach to justify your bigoted logic. Intentionally misgendering a transgender (as you've done multiple times) person is transphobic. If anyone's being a fool, it's you.

If those people feel like they should have been born as a cat or a lizard, and you're saying they aren't allowed to feel that way, then you're talking WAY more shit than I am. Just saying.

At no point did I deny that people are allowed to feel like they should be someone or something other than how they were born. I'm fine with the concept that someone was born a way that they don't identify, and there's no problem if they wish to change. But I don't NEED to call them any specific thing. You pretty much just said the complete opposite. So...whatever. If you need to be dramatic and call me a bigot for no damn reason...have fun with that. Nyla Rose is not a woman...and you are derailing this entire topic with your baseless drama.

 

What you don't seem to get is that all human embryos start life as females, as do all embryos of mammals.
About the 2nd month the fetal tests elaborate enough androgens to offset the maternal estrogens and maleness develops.
Orgasm is the result of muscular stretching and fluid produced by the veins filling the fatty tissues.
The process is exactly the same in males and females. From a scientific viewpoint there is only 1 kind of orgasm, the ''myovascular orgasm.'' In primates which have no foreplay, the sexual organs enlarge to the point that the blood vessels are quite distended. This especially is seen in some of the primates. Man is more like the smaller monkeys and other mammals in that foreplay is required for orgasm.

So we all were females as Embryos at first, even you and the orgasm even it is experienced by everyone little different is still the same procedure for males and females!
Transgenders are taking meds, injections and surgery to physically become female.
The main difference to the Born women is that they can't get pregnant if it's is a male turning female (it's possible the other way around) but physically their Body still changes to the one of a female and you can clearly see that Nyla has become a woman already.

So saying she is still a man doesn't apply on her anymore.
Maybe you understand a little better now.

[Oresama]

Shigehiro Irie would be a nice addition to AEW. He's already a member of #STRONGHEARTS so there's his in.

[Counting Lights]

I don't know why some say Nyla is a bad worker. I watched several good Matches with her down in Japan when she worked for various promotions there to further her craft and she also had several good Matches in the US and elsewhere.

Her match vs Riho in which she won the Championship was a good match and most of all a fun one with all the big moves pulled out making you think it's over when it wasn't.

 

At least I enjoyed their Encounter and saying that someone that can pull moves like the avalance from the top rope or the knee strike that always connects on the Opponent hanging on the ropes is a "bad wrestler" then I really don't know what is good to you.

Flashier moves like jumping around 24/7 with barely connecting at all like several male wrestlers do?

 

The AEW Womens Division suffered under Rihos Championship reign because she was more busy with being a Champion down in Stardom then being in the AEW. At least now they have the chance to build up the Division properly and instead of just having Matches for the ranking System I dislike, they can also have feuds and storylines making the fans care more and have more then just a match to be entertained from.

 

Last week they had a great start in Dark and in Dynamite. They just need to continue this and put more effort in the Division from now on. They have a good roster after all.

 

 

 

 

I mean, she's incredibly green. This recent match with Riho was quite good, but also the first good one she's had since joining up, not to mention she consistently does big spots in very dangerous ways. She reminds me of Nia Jax, someone who was in desperate need of a few more years in training/developmental, but got pushed because she stands out from most other women.

[Lunchbox]

And saying shes a bad wrestler now doesn't mean she won't smooth everything out. Its just right now i would build the division around Shida.

[Counting Lights]

And saying shes a bad wrestler now doesn't mean she won't smooth everything out. Its just right now i would build the division around Shida.

Yessss. Shida is probably the best rounded woman they have. Great look, great in the ring, over with the crowd and seems to speak fairly well. I would really like to see her take it and have a series with Kris Statlander. I dunno if Kris can talk, but I've really enjoyed her matches and it seems the crowd is into her.

[King RyderFan]

 

 

I don't know why some say Nyla is a bad worker. I watched several good Matches with her down in Japan when she worked for various promotions there to further her craft and she also had several good Matches in the US and elsewhere.

Her match vs Riho in which she won the Championship was a good match and most of all a fun one with all the big moves pulled out making you think it's over when it wasn't.

 

At least I enjoyed their Encounter and saying that someone that can pull moves like the avalance from the top rope or the knee strike that always connects on the Opponent hanging on the ropes is a "bad wrestler" then I really don't know what is good to you.

Flashier moves like jumping around 24/7 with barely connecting at all like several male wrestlers do?

 

The AEW Womens Division suffered under Rihos Championship reign because she was more busy with being a Champion down in Stardom then being in the AEW. At least now they have the chance to build up the Division properly and instead of just having Matches for the ranking System I dislike, they can also have feuds and storylines making the fans care more and have more then just a match to be entertained from.

 

Last week they had a great start in Dark and in Dynamite. They just need to continue this and put more effort in the Division from now on. They have a good roster after all.

 

 

 

 

I mean, she's incredibly green. This recent match with Riho was quite good, but also the first good one she's had since joining up, not to mention she consistently does big spots in very dangerous ways. She reminds me of Nia Jax, someone who was in desperate need of a few more years in training/developmental, but got pushed because she stands out from most other women.

So she's...not like most girls?

[Counting Lights]

 

 

I don't know why some say Nyla is a bad worker. I watched several good Matches with her down in Japan when she worked for various promotions there to further her craft and she also had several good Matches in the US and elsewhere.

Her match vs Riho in which she won the Championship was a good match and most of all a fun one with all the big moves pulled out making you think it's over when it wasn't.

 

At least I enjoyed their Encounter and saying that someone that can pull moves like the avalance from the top rope or the knee strike that always connects on the Opponent hanging on the ropes is a "bad wrestler" then I really don't know what is good to you.

Flashier moves like jumping around 24/7 with barely connecting at all like several male wrestlers do?

 

The AEW Womens Division suffered under Rihos Championship reign because she was more busy with being a Champion down in Stardom then being in the AEW. At least now they have the chance to build up the Division properly and instead of just having Matches for the ranking System I dislike, they can also have feuds and storylines making the fans care more and have more then just a match to be entertained from.

 

Last week they had a great start in Dark and in Dynamite. They just need to continue this and put more effort in the Division from now on. They have a good roster after all.

 

 

 

 

I mean, she's incredibly green. This recent match with Riho was quite good, but also the first good one she's had since joining up, not to mention she consistently does big spots in very dangerous ways. She reminds me of Nia Jax, someone who was in desperate need of a few more years in training/developmental, but got pushed because she stands out from most other women.

So she's...not like most girls?

 

I hate you so much

[Saturi]

 

I don't know why some say Nyla is a bad worker. I watched several good Matches with her down in Japan when she worked for various promotions there to further her craft and she also had several good Matches in the US and elsewhere.

Her match vs Riho in which she won the Championship was a good match and most of all a fun one with all the big moves pulled out making you think it's over when it wasn't.

 

At least I enjoyed their Encounter and saying that someone that can pull moves like the avalance from the top rope or the knee strike that always connects on the Opponent hanging on the ropes is a "bad wrestler" then I really don't know what is good to you.

Flashier moves like jumping around 24/7 with barely connecting at all like several male wrestlers do?

 

The AEW Womens Division suffered under Rihos Championship reign because she was more busy with being a Champion down in Stardom then being in the AEW. At least now they have the chance to build up the Division properly and instead of just having Matches for the ranking System I dislike, they can also have feuds and storylines making the fans care more and have more then just a match to be entertained from.

 

Last week they had a great start in Dark and in Dynamite. They just need to continue this and put more effort in the Division from now on. They have a good roster after all.

 

 

 

 

I mean, she's incredibly green. This recent match with Riho was quite good, but also the first good one she's had since joining up, not to mention she consistently does big spots in very dangerous ways. She reminds me of Nia Jax, someone who was in desperate need of a few more years in training/developmental, but got pushed because she stands out from most other women.

 

She is not green, she has been Wrestling for 8 years now and had several great Matches around the world.

I wouldn't also compare her to Nia cause I would agree that even Nia is getting better, she is still green compared to Nyla.

Also Nyla had to work her butt off around the world at the indies training hard to hone her craft without having a huge WWE PC Center behind her to help her.

 

What "Dangerous" spots do you mean?

I only know about a mishap once with michael nakagawa that looked akward and in the big battle royal when she tossed priscilla to the outside though in her case it was more a bad Landing the cause because the others didn't catched her at all and she dropped hard.

 

A recent interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SENF0EjvhZo

 

The problem with Shida is the same as with Riho, Emi and Yuka.

That's why they finally took the title from Riho and gave it to someone that can be on AEW weekly.

This way they can build the division around a champion that can be there the whole time so they can create storylines around her and push the division further.

 

[Lunchbox]

Shida moved to America in October and usually posts a pic from AEW every week.

[Saturi]

Shida moved to America in October and usually posts a pic from AEW every week.

 

Must have missed that.

Hope she will get more involved in the title picture now then!

For now it's Nyla vs Kris at AEW Revolution(Title Match!