Guest Fight Me. Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 I think Taz also brought attention to how Mauro is always at 100. How there's no difference between him calling a lockup and the finish of the match. I disagree with him, but I see why others might not enjoy Mauro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 For the record, I love Mauro. He's one of the only commentators with any heart and soul. He brings genuine excitement to everything. The official WWE youtube page even uploads videos of it: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb ★ Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 JBL used to drop a ton of references, but I didn't get any of them so I can see why Mauro's can annoy some people. Mauro's are more on the nose on pop culture also lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AONO. Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Tbh I understand why he does the references. For a casual crowd stuff like that is great because it can draw some connections. Also on the topic of commentary, I really dislike Nigel. Dude tries so damn hard to be the heel commentator, and it's more annoying than Corey. Plus he's just screaming half the time at everything. It's like Matt Striker's I'M MARKING OUT BROOO but for every bigger moment in a match. Never got that vibe from him. Dude seems kinda natural. But tbh they should react that way for big moments and big moves. They should sell the characters and the match. At Takovers at least, one of the reasons I think those matches, production of the show and the presentation work so well is that they are amazingly balanced between excitment and not being over the top. I would describe commentary like that also. It just doesn't seem fake like. Nigel has a distinguishable voice and stylefor sure, but I'm taking that over Saxton, Phillips and that guy I always confuse with Phillips... I don't mind them really because I hardly even notice them. And I don't think Corey Graves is anything special, but I also don't think he is bad as people make him out to be. He sounds more genuine than the rest. I remember people liking him when he started on RAW... Cole is most annoying defiently and he uses the buzzwords more than anyone... And like Creep said, I'm sure a lot of them would be a lot better if they had more freedom of expression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb ★ Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Graves has gotten more aggressive and annoying recently. I've stopped hating on Cole for some time now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushy. Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 I understand most of Mauros references because Im in tune with the hip hop community, but I still get lowkey annoyed about them. Maybe not annoyed, but I dont know, it just feels weird when he says them sometimes Love him though, hes the best in the company IMO. I also think Kevin Kelly is one of the best commentators in wrestling right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St★rstruck Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Kevin Kelly has improved A LOT compared to how he was in ROH. I couldn't stand him. And about Mauro, I feel the exact way about him as Bushy does. I think he's the best commentator and could easily be a lot better than he already is. I love and hate the hip-hop/pop culture references at the same time - because while I do understand the references, he almost comes off as if he's trying to hard or something, idk. When Mauro quoted Drake's verse on Sicko Mode, I was annoyed but I was laughing really hard at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKhan18 Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 He really quoted that verse? What did he say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeb ★ Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 He really quoted that verse? What did he say? https://twitter.com/ALLSXXING_GJ/status/1089320035296952320?s=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushy. Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 He really quoted that verse? What did he say? https://twitter.com/ALLSXXING_GJ/status/1089320035296952320?s=19 Lmao he does this once a show I swear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senex Beast Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Mauro's pop culture references make me cringe sometimes and I get most of them like comic book/super heroes stuff but at the same time it's cool and impressive, so it's weird mixed feelings! As a commentator other than that though, I agree he's great and I do appreciate his enthusiasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nerd Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Dave Meltzer's rating system shouldn't be taken as the Bible. Not saying anyone specifically on here does. But in general. I don't get into the whole 5 star match this and 7 star that and 3 star this. I know if a match is excellent, good, solid or bad or horrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKhan18 Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 He really quoted that verse? What did he say? https://twitter.com/ALLSXXING_GJ/status/1089320035296952320?s=19 Jesus lol. Anyone remember when he quoted Black Beatles during Nikki Bella vs. Carmella? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Dave Meltzer's rating system shouldn't be taken as the Bible. Not saying anyone specifically on here does. But in general. I don't get into the whole 5 star match this and 7 star that and 3 star this. I know if a match is excellent, good, solid or bad or horrible. It's not a system for matches you have seen. It's a system for matches you haven't seen. When people who I know have a similar taste in wrestling as me say "This was a great match" then I am more willing to check it out, even if it is difficult to come by or outside of my usual promotions. When Meltzer rates a match 4+ Stars, I know that I will probably like it aswell and, without reading his actual match synopsis, check the match out. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbot Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Wrestling commentary to me is some of the worst in any sport and it's always been pretty awful. Sure you have your highlight figures [solie and Styles for me] but the majority of it comes off disingenuous, disinterested or worse, misinformed . For most cards I mute or lower volume, Listen to music or podcasts. I really wish they'd pause more, let the words have some room and not be a table of people fighting to get a word in , Or just talking to talk. I try to listen now and then see if it gets better, it rarely is worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 I think they intentionally want nonstop talking these days because it helps cover the sound of the wrestlers calling spots. Back in the day, you had some shitty mics on the commentary table...maybe a shitty mic above the ring...and that was it. Now, everything is mic'd up with super sensitive, high definition, 3D spatial microphones...and they intentionally put three people on a team so they can talk over everything as much as possible. Just my personal theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbot Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 I would believe it lol. But when it comes to wrestling, "New" isn't always better. I have never been a fan of how crowds are lit at shows, I find them distracting, And when the ring is surrounded by a soft darkness, it really gives matches a mood, a setting of importance like how boxing matches use to be. Now don't get me wrong, This isn't old man yelling about the way things use to be. They have stepped up with the camera work a lot. Compared to NJPW, WWE is amazing at capturing spots.I don't know sometimes it feels like wrestling just wants bigger, better, Louder! for spectacle sake forgetting that it may hinder a show from being better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushy. Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Still boggles me how some of you guys let commentary bother you that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Saint Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Honestly, commentary doesn't bother me. I don't watch for the darn commentary. To ne honest, our generation was spoiled due to having JR/King, Joey Styles, Tony Schiavonne/Mike Tenay/Bobby Heenan in WCW, Mike Tenay/Don West in TNA/Impact, and Prazak/Leonard in ROH. Also, Kelly/Corino in ROH wasn't bad either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Still boggles me how some of you guys let commentary bother you that much. It doesnt, but that doesnt mean we cant think its shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbot Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Yea know, You're right Motown, I should have added Corino/Kelly to the list of gems in commentary But King/Ross?, I respectfully disagree, going back and listening, they were pretty awful together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AONO. Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) I'm not sure how to put this into words but... This past few weeks people are commenting how Murphy looks like a star on SDL. And I think he has pretty good matches, he has excellee in the ring for a good while now. But a star? I legit don't see it. Like, even on 205, I never got what his charater was. He looks pretty generic to me really. Is it something that I'm missing here? Watching him against Roman and Bryan was cool. Very solid matches. He carries himself well also... But I can see them giving him a small midcard-upper midcard push, maybe even giving him a title run but with no real storyline. Because unless they give him somekind of gimmick, or him coming up with something, I can't see him going very far. Edited August 22, 2019 by aono55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 He reminds me alot of Chris Sabin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 He reminds me alot of Chris Sabin Sabin with the face of a bulldog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St★rstruck Posted August 22, 2019 Report Share Posted August 22, 2019 I'm not sure how to put this into words but... This past few weeks people are commenting how Murphy looks like a star on SDL. And I think he has pretty good matches, he has excellee in the ring for a good while now. But a star? I legit don't see it. Like, even on 205, I never got what his charater was. He looks pretty generic to me really. Is it something that I'm missing here? Watching him against Roman and Bryan was cool. Very solid matches. He carries himself well also... But I can see them giving him a small midcard-upper midcard push, maybe even giving him a title run but with no real storyline. Because unless they give him somekind of gimmick, or him coming up with something, I can't see him going very far. I agree with all of this. There's more to being a star than putting on bangers. The character has to be there to initially draw people in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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