Lunchbox Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Newwwwwwwwwww topic. http://caws.ws/forum/topic/478071-unpopular-wrestling-opinions-xii/page-250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Saint Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Bronson Reed vs Samoa Joe needs to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis LXXXV Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 @ A.O.L., just curious..why exactly is it gross to be into Hogan? Really confused why it's a no no to still be a fan of his. Can someone plz explain? Perhaps the Hulk-A-Maniac term was a poor choice of words as I'm not that huge of a mark anymore but still a fan enough. Some of you put my opinion down without explaining why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbot Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 every apology came with a ton of excuses tacked on, This was one of the moments you need not a excuse, just apologize and say you'll try harder in the future.That's it. He ruined it by adding on all these reasons for his words."it was okay to say that word back then, and I did it to all my friends" , "I was in a bad place" [That's no excuse to be racist anyways]. "This is about privacy not racism" [Which it was really about both] All he had to do was say sorry. Seemed to work for Dan Harmon and a few others who did the simple most human thing you can do when you're wrong.Just.Say.Sorry. the Locker room response to Hogan was luke warm at best, some of the most loved people in WWE were rather annoyed Hogan was brought back into the fold and found his apology less then credible. and can you blame them, I mean this not to be over cruel to Hulk, but every single word out of his mouth seems to be lies, why would you believe him? At least if he left it at a simple apology , You could go "Well he is trying I suppose" . If you like Hogan, I am happy you enjoy his work. But let's be frank, He isn't going to wrestle anymore, he isn't gonna put anyone over. His Career made a lot of money for the business, but to me I see him as someone who did just as bad as he did good for the business, I'm not alone in that thinking. He has a less then stellar rep..Use another Legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis LXXXV Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Well as far as his "apology", yeah I agree he messed that up and made it as bad or even worse. I am also surprised he still has an ego at such a high level. His promos from WM and Raw Reunion kinda irked me as he put himself and fanbase as the center of everything while Stone Cold did the opposite and put over all the other legends. As for picking another legend, yeah I admit he was one of my favs he never was #1. It was always Macho Man and Sting then Shawn Michaels and Stone Cold and so on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counting Lights Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 It just comes down to Hogan being a pretty shitty human being. Dude was busted as a racist, and that was more than enough for me to cut any kind of loyalty I may have had to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Yeah Hogan is just human trash. Be a fan of his if you want aint no one stopping you, but it's not hard to understand why people hate him. Dude is a racist piece of shit and un-apologetically so, and people like that don't deserve your adoration. That and a million accounts of shitty backstage politics throughout his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Saint Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 As far as I'm concerned, Hogan is an arrogant s.o.b. Not just for the racist stuff, but as Creepia said, he used his influence to screw with careers and livelihoods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbot Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 I really want to say that this isn't a attack on his fans, at least not from me, People speaking out on Hogan are not asking Hogan to be perfect but rather that WWE stand by it's mission statement and presented values. [but at this point they fail so hard I wonder why we even try] . Hogan is still redeemable, but that redemption asks he do something he finds hard to accomplish, Be humble and tell the truth. It's so simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King RyderFan Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 On the subject of Hogan, Voodoo Child > Real American. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St★rstruck Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 I don't even think that's unpopular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGPLX. Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 God *censored*ing dammit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nerd Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Off the subject of Hogan, Renee Young is the worst commentator I think I've ever heard in my life. Right up there with Tenay and Todd Grishman. Just awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Renee aint great, but there is no comparison with her and others in the past. She's not actually there to "commentate", she is there to react and read from a list of buzzwords and phrases. Nobody in WWE is there to commentate, hence why Corey Graves just shits on people and argues with Saxton all the time. I honestly think it's a little unfair to compare her to bad commentators of the past, because in another company she might be good at the job. Anyone will do bad at it in current WWE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 (edited) Beth is my least favorite at the moment. Renee is fine, I think. But there is something to be said just about female commentary in general. The higher pitch voices can be really distracting during the action, IMO. Like...with the guys, you can kind of half-listen to what they're saying. And if they drone on too much, or say too much stupid shit...then it's easy to stop listening. But, when the women say something that doesn't land, I think it's much harder to just ignore it. You hear that voice so much more prominently than the others...so the things they're saying really need to be important or worthwhile every single time...not just "Whoa!" or "Are you kidding me?" Edited August 19, 2019 by Generations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counting Lights Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 No one can tell me either Beth or Renee is worse than Percy Watson, David Otunga or 'end of career' Jerry Lawler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Percy was the drizzle shits. *something happens* Percy: Okay! *something else happens* Percy: Okay, Okaaaay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counting Lights Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 *someone hits a bigger move* Percy: SHOWTIME!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Oh yeah. Percy is gone now. Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushy. Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 I didnt mind Percy honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Going back to what I said about female commentary... It was just easy to ignore Percy. He was bad at commentary, but his voice wasn't grating. It helps a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willows Way Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 I didnt mind Percy either tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AONO. Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 tbh I don't get why Mauro gets flak for his pop culture references. He is still best play by play they have and he has good chemistry with Nigel. If they want SDL to be more "sports like" they definetly have to improve on play by play commentery. They really miss that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 I think the references annoy people who don't understand them. Which I can understand to a degree...because you sit there and you say "what the hell did that have to do with wrestling?" But I also think it's impressive how many references he's capable of pulling out of nowhere. Like...it makes me wonder, how he even finds the time to consume so much content...that he's actually aware of so many different ongoing pop-culture happenings and capable of just flawlessly mixing them into his commentary. I mean...I'm a pretty connected guy when it comes to a handful of different things. I know what's going on in pro wrestling, video games, film, music, comic books...but it always seems like he knows EVERYTHING. He can reference all the things I just listed...and also fashion, sports, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counting Lights Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Tbh I understand why he does the references. For a casual crowd stuff like that is great because it can draw some connections. Also on the topic of commentary, I really dislike Nigel. Dude tries so damn hard to be the heel commentator, and it's more annoying than Corey. Plus he's just screaming half the time at everything. It's like Matt Striker's I'M MARKING OUT BROOO but for every bigger moment in a match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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