Guest Shades of Cool Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 Well said Ipse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M3J Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 Or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 hey man look at me rocking out im on the radio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M3J Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey D. Jiggy Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 oi guys if you could transfer your entire essence (or soul for lack of a better term) in a new body, essentially making you immortal, would it actually be you or would it be a copy that is fully convinced it is the same you, with the actual you ceasing to exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted March 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 oi guys if you could transfer your entire essence (or soul for lack of a better term) in a new body, essentially making you immortal, would it actually be you or would it be a copy that is fully convinced it is the same you, with the actual you ceasing to exist? this is a question that literally kept me awake as a child at some point lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 It would be whatever you believe it to be. Truth is relative. If you truly believe that new body is you then it is. Transexuals who get new 'bodies' are not themselves until they make that physical change. It's not really any different in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey D. Jiggy Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 I'm not sure what I'm getting at applies to transsexuals. That sounds like altering the body you're already in and not feeling at home until it's the way you want it. Mine is more like moving to a new place and not being sure whether the movement is actually you moving or a new you carrying on while the old you dies along with the old house. Oh wait, maybe it does apply and I'm just getting it now. Truth being relative allows to talk about the situation that there is an entity that's actually you, but at the same time, you can also say that you die in that moment. If it works like a copy, you as a person will continue on living, but the specific you that actually experienced life in the old body, with the old brain, looking through the old eyes, would also die in that moment. That specific you won't experience anything anymore, as if it passed on a baton to the next "you". Thing is, if they ever manage to do something like that, I'd think they would determine success by whether you'd retain all memories waking up in the new body or not. But going with what I just said, the transfer would be a success and a failure at the same time. I'll bet there's some goofball on reddit who thought this up too in a much more coherent manner than I just did ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted March 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 If I clone myself and die in the process, my clone will remember cloning himself, but not know that he himself is the clcone. Instead he would think that the clone died and is lying right in front of him. He would think like me. Look like me. Act like me. Know me like I know myself. But "I" would be no more. The clone is, by any rights of definition...me. Considering the cloning process kill the original, the clone would never know that he is the clone. Despite only being a friction of a second old, he would think he went through my entire life and his body would react exactly as if he did. However...my initial consciousness...the "Me" that tried to clone himself, will be no more. Now if we add body modification to the cloning process, "I" would still be dead. But "Who I am", would still live on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey D. Jiggy Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Yeah, that's the perfect way of describing it. Would suck if people were like "oh well, I can transport myself into another body" for something minor like travelling, but they would actually kill that particular consciousness every single time they did it and then not know it. Maybe something to consider once we get past the whole global warming thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted March 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Reminds me of The Prestige, with Christian Bale and Hugh Jackman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 Transsexuals apply because it's however you feel comfortable and 'yourself' in whatever body you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muur Posted March 27, 2019 Report Share Posted March 27, 2019 I'd say it's you provided you actually have control and retain your memories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M3J Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 oi guys if you could transfer your entire essence (or soul for lack of a better term) in a new body, essentially making you immortal, would it actually be you or would it be a copy that is fully convinced it is the same you, with the actual you ceasing to exist? It'd actually be you if you still retain your memories and personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Vercetti Posted March 28, 2019 Report Share Posted March 28, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shades of Cool Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Happy Birthday to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Vercetti Posted April 1, 2019 Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Happy bday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted April 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2019 Happy Birthday to me I don't believe you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shades of Cool Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Happy bday Thanks! Happy Birthday to me I don't believe you. Why's that? Because it was April Fools? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted April 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 I don't believe that you actually exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shades of Cool Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Oh, well...... I'm pretty sure I do, but............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted April 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 That's exactly what a friction of my imagination would say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muur Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 That's exactly what a friction of my imagination would say The correct word would be figment of my imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted April 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 That's exactly what a friction of my imagination would say The correct word would be figment of my imagination. Not in MY imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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