After a three-year suspension, Hulk Hogan has been reinstated into the WWE Hall of Fame.

[M3J]

 

Those *Censored*s might be brothers but they don't get the brotherhood like you and me brother

 

Oh, brother.

 

What Hogan needed to do was lay low, and show with his actions that he'd learned from what he did. Part of that would have been to accept that a mere apology wouldn't perhaps be enough for some people. People who were very deeply offended. Now he's basically said the issue is with those who didn't accept it.

 

However the "brotherhood" he talks about is in itself an issue, this wresting brotherhood was run on the code of "what happens on tour, stays on tour" and included ritual covering up of;

 

1: Drug and excessive alcohol use

2: Promiscuity and cheating on partners / spouses.

3: Bullying and "hazing" of new recruits - including kangaroo courts.

4: Institutionalized racism and discrimination.

 

So yes, "the old school mentality" might play a part - that still doesn't make it right. The attitudes to it were much different back then, not only in wrestling but in society - however that doesn't really mean it wasn't deeply wrong in the first place. Hogan himself had his leg broken deliberately by a wrestling trainer - because it was "the way it was". Was that any less heinous than if it had been done yesterday?

 

The only real difference with it now, is that people don't allow it to go unpunished - where as in the past it was just seen as "how it was". As I said, that doesn't make it any less wrong.

 

It's not just /because some were too offended to accept his apology, but his apology is horse shit because he encouraged wrestlers to watch what they say as they don't know when they're being recorded, not necessarily that he was sorry about his racist rant. Hogan all but implied that had he known he was being secretly recorded, he wouldn't have gone on a racist rant, but he would have if he felt safe. Hogan showed he didn't really learn anything but to watch out for anyone who might record him.

 

Now if he apologized for his racist rant and showed remorse, then he'd have more wrestlers forgiving him. If someone talks shit about you behind your back to a mutual friend, and a mutual friend tells you, wouldn't you be even more pissed off if that someone apologized for shitting on you to the wrong person rather than apologizing for talking bad about you?

[MikeM]

 

 

Those *Censored*s might be brothers but they don't get the brotherhood like you and me brother

 

Oh, brother.

 

What Hogan needed to do was lay low, and show with his actions that he'd learned from what he did. Part of that would have been to accept that a mere apology wouldn't perhaps be enough for some people. People who were very deeply offended. Now he's basically said the issue is with those who didn't accept it.

 

However the "brotherhood" he talks about is in itself an issue, this wresting brotherhood was run on the code of "what happens on tour, stays on tour" and included ritual covering up of;

 

1: Drug and excessive alcohol use

2: Promiscuity and cheating on partners / spouses.

3: Bullying and "hazing" of new recruits - including kangaroo courts.

4: Institutionalized racism and discrimination.

 

So yes, "the old school mentality" might play a part - that still doesn't make it right. The attitudes to it were much different back then, not only in wrestling but in society - however that doesn't really mean it wasn't deeply wrong in the first place. Hogan himself had his leg broken deliberately by a wrestling trainer - because it was "the way it was". Was that any less heinous than if it had been done yesterday?

 

The only real difference with it now, is that people don't allow it to go unpunished - where as in the past it was just seen as "how it was". As I said, that doesn't make it any less wrong.

 

It's not just /because some were too offended to accept his apology, but his apology is horse shit because he encouraged wrestlers to watch what they say as they don't know when they're being recorded, not necessarily that he was sorry about his racist rant. Hogan all but implied that had he known he was being secretly recorded, he wouldn't have gone on a racist rant, but he would have if he felt safe. Hogan showed he didn't really learn anything but to watch out for anyone who might record him.

 

Now if he apologized for his racist rant and showed remorse, then he'd have more wrestlers forgiving him. If someone talks shit about you behind your back to a mutual friend, and a mutual friend tells you, wouldn't you be even more pissed off if that someone apologized for shitting on you to the wrong person rather than apologizing for talking bad about you?

 

 

That is also an exceptionally good point.

[M3J]

That's literally the main reason why some wrestlers aren't accepting his apology, because he wasn't sorry for the racism but that he got caught being a racist. It's not just because they were deeply offended or because he should have laid low, but he should have expressed actual remorse for what he said rather than regret his words ONLY because he was being secretly recorded. He showed he learned nothing and didn't improve as a person.