St★rstruck Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 I had a feeling Kane and Braun were gonna get in to it from a mile away, especially during that backstage segment with them two, Miz and The Bar. Seeing Angle come out with Shield gear made me laugh hard as *Censored*. Wasn't actually expecting him to wear it, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 I had a feeling Kane and Braun were gonna get in to it from a mile away I think we all did. But, Kane going over...and having the support of his team is what bothered me. I was pissed when Braun went through the "stage" *cough* bubble wrap *cough*...but when he crawled out, I was like "oh, alright...they were just swerving us so Braun could look even better". But then...nope...it got even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Kazu Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 So...yeah, the main event annoyed me in a few ways, but after watching the rest I can't be angry. I just really don't understand why it's Kane's MO to return and go over the most popular people at the time. I swear, they're trying to make us all hate him. I don't want to hate Kane... Crazy how they want you to hate a heel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 So...yeah, the main event annoyed me in a few ways, but after watching the rest I can't be angry. I just really don't understand why it's Kane's MO to return and go over the most popular people at the time. I swear, they're trying to make us all hate him. I don't want to hate Kane... Crazy how they want you to hate a heel. Not what I mean. Think that's obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Kazu Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 In this case you're acting exactly like intended. They wanted the fans to be pissed that Kane got Braun out of the match. Braun will beat Kane soon enough. If anything the only good thing about Kane coming back is that he did it to put Braun over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 In this case you're acting exactly like intended. They wanted the fans to be pissed that Kane got Braun out of the match. Braun will beat Kane soon enough. If anything the only good thing about Kane coming back is that he did it to put Braun over. Still doesn't change the fact that the cheap Kane heat is not enjoyable heat, and almost makes me stop watching the product whenever they do it. Especially after the recent events of Braun losing clean to Lesnar, and losing more and more momentum on a weekly basis since doing so. Braun will beat Kane soon? Am I supposed to take solace in that? It means nothing. Kane has lost to everyone over the course of his career. His inconsistent booking makes a win over him mean nothing...no matter how many times they predictably try to make him a serious monster again. Braun is the true monster, and they're ruining it...just like they did when Bray Wyatt was in a similar position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 So...yeah, the main event annoyed me in a few ways, but after watching the rest I can't be angry. I just really don't understand why it's Kane's MO to return and go over the most popular people at the time. I swear, they're trying to make us all hate him. I don't want to hate Kane... Crazy how they want you to hate a heel. So true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St★rstruck Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 I'm sure Gen meant "hate him" as in no one wanting to see Kane whatsoever, whether he's heel or face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardd Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Well Im the complete opposite of what he said. I loved Kane last night and was happy to see him depicted as an actual monster/threat for once. Which he needs anyways to be believable against Braun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 I'm sure Gen meant "hate him" as in no one wanting to see Kane whatsoever, whether he's heel or face. Yes, exactly right. And I thought that was obvious when I said it. You'd think that a forum full of wrestling fans would be fully aware that the term "hate" doesn't apply to face/heel, but to a deeper feeling about a performer himself. But, some people only exist to troll. So... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Kazu Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Not my fault you got worked, mark. Tell me more about how seeing Kane hurt Braun made you almost want to stop watching WWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Not my fault you got worked, mark. Tell me more about how seeing Kane hurt Braun made you almost want to stop watching WWE. Why are you such a try-hard at pushing people's buttons? Literally, all I said was that it's a shame that they're trying so hard to make Kane a burden to watch. I've enjoyed Kane through many points of his career...and it bothers me that he's so often used in ways that seem pointless or disruptive to the overall product. *Reported for obvious argument baiting.* I'm not going to let you and Creep bait me into being as obnoxious as you both are. I've done that too many times in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Kazu Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 But, some people only exist to troll. So... Reported for baiting. Hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Smh, and moving along... TLC was enjoyable, and I have nothing negative to say about it. My opinion is that it was a good event. If I didn't make it clear earlier, I'm reiterating now...that I enjoyed the event. The main event was fun to watch. I even said that earlier. I don't hate Kane, I don't hate the WWE. I merely said that I don't like the way that they use Kane a scapegoat for dead-end storylines. If people need to argue about that, they can argue without me. I hope everyone has a lovely day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardd Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 I think Im the only one on here who hated everything up until the moment Enzo won the CW title. First half was super boring aside from the Elias appearances. Friends who I watched it with were just as bored as me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Man you are RyderFan levels of try hard now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willows Way Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Boy im glad i dont hang out with you and your friends then. I thought everything was fire except the CW title match and Jordan/Elias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardd Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Man you are RyderFan levels of try hard now. What? Because I wasnt entertained by the CW tag, Womans title match and CW title match and thought the PPV dragged? Okay then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Kazu Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Yeah, I thought the first two matches were good and it was dope to see Asuka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willows Way Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Man you are RyderFan levels of try hard now. What? Think he was refering to Gen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Kazu Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 I thought so too at first but the constant CW hate/pro-Enzo shtick is kinda try-hardish too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardd Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 I said I was bored throughout and I was glad that Enzo won. None of it was a lie. Legit was happy to see him beat Kalisto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Just joking bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowley Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 I think Im the only one on here who hated everything up until the moment Enzo won the CW title. First half was super boring aside from the Elias appearances. Friends who I watched it with were just as bored as me. I know how you feel. It was pretty boring. It was the first time I've watched a whole pay-per-view from start to finish (no preshow though) in a while. But I liked the parts with Jason Jordan throwing produce at Elias too. That was classic WWE. I understand the appeal of Finn Balor vs. AJ Styles, but it wasn't for me. It went on too long and it just felt flat because there were no stakes or motivation for them to be fighting. I don't have the attention span for a slow paced match like that with nothing on the line, especially after I've already sat through all of those other filler matches. I know the commentators were selling it as a big dream match, but I just wasn't buying it as such when it's on a B pay-per-view and it's literally only happening because someone else got sick. It just seemed like a normal match they'd have main event a house show. I loved the main event though. Its actually probably going to end up being one of my favorite matches, so everything else was worth sitting through. The fact that the rest of the show sucked only made it feel even more special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernez Posted October 23, 2017 Report Share Posted October 23, 2017 Man, you guys have to go back and read some of your post sometimes, you sound like whiney babies all the damn time. Chill out, have a decent discussion. Everything doesn't have to start another World War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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