WWE Women's Division Discussion Thread

[Faster Than Light]

Who's to say a tag team with them can't be awesome? Summer isn't that bad in the ring and always played her character well so match her with someone newer with a similar personality could make them entertaining.

 

 

The people behind the characters.

 

Really though, that's charity. If they aren't good enough as singles compietors, then they aren't worth introducing NEW belts in some attempt to salvage those people with little chance of a worthwhile pay-off when they could put them to a way better use.

[King RyderFan]

 

Who's to say a tag team with them can't be awesome? Summer isn't that bad in the ring and always played her character well so match her with someone newer with a similar personality could make them entertaining.

 

 

The people behind the characters.

 

Really though, that's charity. If they aren't good enough as singles compietors, then they aren't worth introducing NEW belts in some attempt to salvage those people with little chance of a worthwhile pay-off when they could put them to a way better use.

So, if they aren't good as singles competitors, we should just give up on them?

[OPC]

They've put male stars who can't make it on their own in tag teams and they can with the women too. These women have talent that can do some good in that division if it ever happens for them.

[LEGION]

You always need enhancment talent to lose quickly to the bigger stars. I prefer those not being great wrestlers

[Faster Than Light]

They've put male stars who can't make it on their own in tag teams and they can with the women too. These women have talent that can do some good in that division if it ever happens for them.

tamina... talent

....

 

 

Nope

 

 

Who's to say a tag team with them can't be awesome? Summer isn't that bad in the ring and always played her character well so match her with someone newer with a similar personality could make them entertaining.

 

 

The people behind the characters.

 

Really though, that's charity. If they aren't good enough as singles compietors, then they aren't worth introducing NEW belts in some attempt to salvage those people with little chance of a worthwhile pay-off when they could put them to a way better use.

So, if they aren't good as singles competitors, we should just give up on them?

Umm....that's not what I said

[OPC]

Tamina is good enough to assist in a tag team and nail her top rope finisher after her partner hits something to lay the opponent out. Sounds like a tag team waiting to happen to me.

 

She didn't do to bad in Team Bad so they could just have her be like that again as far as segments. Hell Naomi is exactly who I'd put her back with.

[Saturi]

Tamina is good enough to assist in a tag team and nail her top rope finisher after her partner hits something to lay the opponent out. Sounds like a tag team waiting to happen to me.

 

She didn't do to bad in Team Bad so they could just have her be like that again as far as segments. Hell Naomi is exactly who I'd put her back with.

Don't waste your time talking sense to the tamina haters, they will never accept her even if she would put up a 5 stars match in front of their nose.

She was the mvp in both mitb Matches and she has proven that she can work very well in many houseshows along with some televised Matches.

Fact is, she got wasted in Bodyguard roles or as the powerhouse that always Jobs to others by either losing clean or getting rolled up her whole Career.

So some People already put a stamp on her forehead with the word "untalented" on it already even the main problem is the way she get's booked.

[King RyderFan]

The MVP in both MITBs? I like Tamina and even I think that's a stretch.

[OPC]

lol yeah MVP is pushing it but she's good.

[Counting Lights]

There's nothing remotely interesting to latch on to with Tamina. We've had way better powerhouses before, and will probably get better ones with the MYC. She looks dull, talks dull and her moveset is dull, plus her matches are nothing special and it shows with the crowd being mute every time she comes out. She's like a less talented version of what Jack Swagger was in the later years.

[Creepia]

Tamina is so damn average, it's got nothing to do with her booking. She's just bland and average.

 

Also James Ellsworth was the MVP of the MITB matches.

[classiq.]

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[Saturi]

There's nothing remotely interesting to latch on to with Tamina. We've had way better powerhouses before, and will probably get better ones with the MYC. She looks dull, talks dull and her moveset is dull, plus her matches are nothing special and it shows with the crowd being mute every time she comes out. She's like a less talented version of what Jack Swagger was in the later years.

She was actually getting good reactions as a face and also partially as a heel when she was booked better at times.

When commentary always praises her power, yet they have her come out to Job to everyone and their granny there is no way people will care about her.

 

They have her tighed on the samoan moveset due to her heritage for the most part and even she has already done a lot more moves in the past and in houseshows, you mostly see her do only like 4 moves on tv before she get's rolled up or loses cleanly.

 

She was booed out of the Building in houseshows but still got cheered when she went up for the superfly splash.

If they build her up properly and let her use all her powerslams, knee strikes/Drops and all her other moves instead of like 2-3 moves before she get's pinned, she can get over.

[Faster Than Light]

 

There's nothing remotely interesting to latch on to with Tamina. We've had way better powerhouses before, and will probably get better ones with the MYC. She looks dull, talks dull and her moveset is dull, plus her matches are nothing special and it shows with the crowd being mute every time she comes out. She's like a less talented version of what Jack Swagger was in the later years.

She was actually getting good reactions as a face and also partially as a heel when she was booked better at times.

When commentary always praises her power, yet they have her come out to Job to everyone and their granny there is no way people will care about her.

 

They have her tighed on the samoan moveset due to her heritage for the most part and even she has already done a lot more moves in the past and in houseshows, you mostly see her do only like 4 moves on tv before she get's rolled up or loses cleanly.

 

She was booed out of the Building in houseshows but still got cheered when she went up for the superfly splash.

If they build her up properly and let her use all her powerslams, knee strikes/Drops and all her other moves instead of like 2-3 moves before she get's pinned, she can get over.

 

 

1) Where?

 

2) There are jobbers in the past who still made people care about them. Like Heath Slater was

 

3) Same argument as "Watch his/her FCW/NXT matches"

 

4) Don't they boo/cheer anyone at house shows? Not saying much.

 

5) Or they can push someone more interesting and talented instead. Adding more moves won't make her any less sloppy or boring to watch either.

[Saturi]

The MVP in both MITBs? I like Tamina and even I think that's a stretch.

In both Reports at Diva dirt she was named the MITB of the match since she gave a good dynamic to the match and they allowed her to Show more of her.

Also like 99% of the users there agreed on that.

So it's not based on my opinion only.

 

[Faster Than Light]

 

The MVP in both MITBs? I like Tamina and even I think that's a stretch.

In both Reports at Diva dirt she was named the MITB of the match since she gave a good dynamic to the match and they allowed her to Show more of her.

Also like 99% of the users there agreed on that.

So it's not based on my opinion only.

 

 

 

 

And... ?

[Saturi]

 

 

There's nothing remotely interesting to latch on to with Tamina. We've had way better powerhouses before, and will probably get better ones with the MYC. She looks dull, talks dull and her moveset is dull, plus her matches are nothing special and it shows with the crowd being mute every time she comes out. She's like a less talented version of what Jack Swagger was in the later years.

She was actually getting good reactions as a face and also partially as a heel when she was booked better at times.

When commentary always praises her power, yet they have her come out to Job to everyone and their granny there is no way people will care about her.

 

They have her tighed on the samoan moveset due to her heritage for the most part and even she has already done a lot more moves in the past and in houseshows, you mostly see her do only like 4 moves on tv before she get's rolled up or loses cleanly.

 

She was booed out of the Building in houseshows but still got cheered when she went up for the superfly splash.

If they build her up properly and let her use all her powerslams, knee strikes/Drops and all her other moves instead of like 2-3 moves before she get's pinned, she can get over.

 

1) Where?

 

2) There are jobbers in the past who still made people care about them. Like Heath Slater was

 

3) Same argument as "Watch his/her FCW/NXT matches"

 

4) Don't they boo/cheer anyone at house shows? Not saying much.

 

5) Or they can push someone more interesting and talented instead. Adding more moves won't make her any less sloppy or boring to watch either.

 

1)in her face times and partially in her bad stable times

 

2) Nobody cared about Slater until they started booking him right either.

He got heat by being booked against legends among other things until they turned him face, gave him the "father of 7 children" gimmick and paired him with rhino.

Good booking can make a huge difference and I think we can agree on that.

 

3)Not nessecarily

These are a few of the moves she does:

 

add 3 different powerslams she has done, big boot, her clothelines, suplexes, sleeper slam, double axe handle chop, a bear hug, flapjack, two driver variations, a jawbreaker, various kicks and hip attacks and you can see that she is more versatile when they let her.

You don't have to "watch her fcw/nxt" Matches, go watch how good she did in the MITB which are recent Matches and tell me she wasn't good there. We both know it would be a lie.

 

4) She is talented and even after the two injuries she had, she can still go in the ring.

They don't need to give her more moves, they need to let her use all the moves she has instead of limiting her and using her as a jobber 24/7.

[Creepia]

Man, you are so damn bias.

 

Management letting Tamina "do more moves" WILL NOT make her entertaining or any better. Wrestling is not that simple.

[Saturi]

Man, you are so damn bias.

 

Management letting Tamina "do more moves" WILL NOT make her entertaining or any better. Wrestling is not that simple.

You obviously "forgot" to read the part about BOOKING her right and give her something good to do instead of being someones bodyguard that lays down and takes the Pins 24/7 cause you are right that the way she was booked on tv wasn't entertaining.

 

The only exceptions so far were the MITB Matches and some backstage Segments in which she was hilarious with her facial expressions when it comes to the main roster.

[Faster Than Light]

There has veen men and women on the where we're booked as jobbers that's still were entertaining and did show consistency they were good-decent in the ring like Jillian Hall.

 

And two matches where Tamina might have been decent doesn't negate her being below average the rest of her career.

[OPC]

Well it was easy for Jillian to be entertaining with the gimmick giving to her as all she'd have to do is make funny faces wild singing terribly. People eat that kinda shit up but when Tamina they haven't come up with anything for her other than being the daughter of a hall of famer.

 

Team bad was the best thing she ever got to do personality wise.

[Faster Than Light]

Yes, but despite not winning a match for the longest time and being a jobber, Jillian was able to have decent matches on a regular basis, which what more than Tamina can say. It's not a "nothing to do" or a booking problem.it's a problem on Tamina's end.

 

Whats next? Eva Marie was a four star wrestler? She was just booked badly and given nothing?

 

And TeamBAD wasn't even good, in my humble opinion

[OPC]

Eva atleast had a decent feud with Bayley on NXT if I remember correctly.

[Papa Paul]

Eva and Jillian at least had charisma, a lot of charisma actually. They immediately got showered in boos when they popped up on screen. The crowd enjoyed booing them. Tamina doesn't really have that. The problem is no one gives a toss about Tamina, and I can't see how they can change that.

[OPC]

The problem is Tamina hasn't been giving any type of character other than big tough body guard chick. She gets little to no lines so how can she do anything?