Crackalicious Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 There is a difference between being "The Guy" and being a Main Eventer. Normally if you are world champion it means you are a main eventer. SOME get their without a world title but MOST don't. The World Title means you are one of the important guys, Not the Guy. Hogan, Austin, Rock (Austin was out), Triple H, John Cena where the guy at some point in their time, when did they become that thought. Hogan when he won the World Title from the Iron Sheik, Austin when he won it from HBK, Rock was just given it due to Austin being out, Triple H was...well he was handed the World Title because he was with Stephanie and was one of the top guys, and Cena was given it when beat JBL for the Title. Most of the time the World Title means something important, exempt when WWE has 2 world titles then one will at some point not be important. And sometimes people become bigger than the title, Like Austin, Rock, Hogan, Lesnar, Taker, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classiq. Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 Former WWE Superstar Ryback was in action at last nights WrestlePro event. He teamed up with Pat Buck against The Heavenly Bodies, and they managed to capture the tag team titles. You can check out a video of the match released by WrestlePro below. Ryback will be working tonights WrestlePro event as well in a match against Dan Maff. https://m.facebook.com/wrestlepro/videos/1144212522321557/ http://411mania.com/wrestling/ryback-wins-wrestlepro-tag-team-title-last-night/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnapSuplex Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 So, did he actually change his name to Ryback then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 So, did he actually change his name to Ryback then? Yes... I legally went and changed my name to Ryback. For many reasons, one of which I owned and created and used before my time in WWE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muur Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 If so, good too see that she chose not to ruin her professional career over Del Rio. and a month later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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classiq. Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 In a post on Twitter, John Leppan, who formerly competed in WWE as Adam Rose and Leo Kruger, announced that he will be leaving the wrestling business this year. He has been wrestling since 1995. He made his WWE debut in 2014 after two years in NXT. He was released in May 2016. He previously worked in the independents as Krugar and Aldo Rose. He wrote: https://twitter.com/RealKrugar/status/840698251665907712 http://411mania.com/wrestling/adam-rose-leaving-wrestling-business-this-year/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 And no one cared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeM Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 There is a difference between being "The Guy" and being a Main Eventer. Normally if you are world champion it means you are a main eventer. SOME get their without a world title but MOST don't. The World Title means you are one of the important guys, Not the Guy. Hogan, Austin, Rock (Austin was out), Triple H, John Cena where the guy at some point in their time, when did they become that thought. Hogan when he won the World Title from the Iron Sheik, Austin when he won it from HBK, Rock was just given it due to Austin being out, Triple H was...well he was handed the World Title because he was with Stephanie and was one of the top guys, and Cena was given it when beat JBL for the Title. Most of the time the World Title means something important, exempt when WWE has 2 world titles then one will at some point not be important. And sometimes people become bigger than the title, Like Austin, Rock, Hogan, Lesnar, Taker, etc. Triple H was given the WWF Title first before he started seeing Stephanie. He won it off Foley in August 99. The angle with Stephanie (which actually began their off screen relationship) wasn't until November. He was given it simply because he was the very best heel on the roster at the time, and a perfect foil for Foley and the Rock to chase. He was so hated as a heel he even managed to turn Vince face for Armageddon, and the naive sweet Stephanie into an evil bitch at the same event. People seem to think that he got everything handed to him because he was family, in fact it's worth recalling that he ate everything for the Curtain Call, went to the very bottom of the card as a result and worked his way up. He was very much a "top guy" and one of Vince's go to guys before he got involved with Steph. In fact, it was probably only the fact Vince trusted Hunter so much that he eventually let Steph see him. I won't argue that after that, sometimes he got favourable booking - but he never got handed the world title as a result of that until at least 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackalicious Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) There is a difference between being "The Guy" and being a Main Eventer. Normally if you are world champion it means you are a main eventer. SOME get their without a world title but MOST don't. The World Title means you are one of the important guys, Not the Guy. Hogan, Austin, Rock (Austin was out), Triple H, John Cena where the guy at some point in their time, when did they become that thought. Hogan when he won the World Title from the Iron Sheik, Austin when he won it from HBK, Rock was just given it due to Austin being out, Triple H was...well he was handed the World Title because he was with Stephanie and was one of the top guys, and Cena was given it when beat JBL for the Title. Most of the time the World Title means something important, exempt when WWE has 2 world titles then one will at some point not be important. And sometimes people become bigger than the title, Like Austin, Rock, Hogan, Lesnar, Taker, etc. Triple H was given the WWF Title first before he started seeing Stephanie. He won it off Foley in August 99. The angle with Stephanie (which actually began their off screen relationship) wasn't until November. He was given it simply because he was the very best heel on the roster at the time, and a perfect foil for Foley and the Rock to chase. He was so hated as a heel he even managed to turn Vince face for Armageddon, and the naive sweet Stephanie into an evil bitch at the same event. People seem to think that he got everything handed to him because he was family, in fact it's worth recalling that he ate everything for the Curtain Call, went to the very bottom of the card as a result and worked his way up. He was very much a "top guy" and one of Vince's go to guys before he got involved with Steph. In fact, it was probably only the fact Vince trusted Hunter so much that he eventually let Steph see him. I won't argue that after that, sometimes he got favourable booking - but he never got handed the world title as a result of that until at least 2003. If you read what I said he wasn't Truly "The Guy" until when he was handed the title. He was always important and one of the top guys but he had Austin and Rock above him. I mean from mid 99 til he tore his quad he was The Top Heel til Austin became Heel. After that they pushed him to the moon and it never really worked because he wasn't that good as a face and as a heel he was good but he wasn't the as great as before and went over all the Faces til Batista, when they finally gave up on him being the top guy. Also I was talking about being the Top Guy, when Triple H won the Tithe before he was handed it he wasn't The Guy like Austin, Hogan, Rock, Cena, Roman, HBK. Hell Rock was only The Guy do to Austin being out, as soon as he returned he pushed back down a peg. Edited March 12, 2017 by Crackalicious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeM Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 There is a difference between being "The Guy" and being a Main Eventer. Normally if you are world champion it means you are a main eventer. SOME get their without a world title but MOST don't. The World Title means you are one of the important guys, Not the Guy. Hogan, Austin, Rock (Austin was out), Triple H, John Cena where the guy at some point in their time, when did they become that thought. Hogan when he won the World Title from the Iron Sheik, Austin when he won it from HBK, Rock was just given it due to Austin being out, Triple H was...well he was handed the World Title because he was with Stephanie and was one of the top guys, and Cena was given it when beat JBL for the Title. Most of the time the World Title means something important, exempt when WWE has 2 world titles then one will at some point not be important. And sometimes people become bigger than the title, Like Austin, Rock, Hogan, Lesnar, Taker, etc. Triple H was given the WWF Title first before he started seeing Stephanie. He won it off Foley in August 99. The angle with Stephanie (which actually began their off screen relationship) wasn't until November. He was given it simply because he was the very best heel on the roster at the time, and a perfect foil for Foley and the Rock to chase. He was so hated as a heel he even managed to turn Vince face for Armageddon, and the naive sweet Stephanie into an evil bitch at the same event. People seem to think that he got everything handed to him because he was family, in fact it's worth recalling that he ate everything for the Curtain Call, went to the very bottom of the card as a result and worked his way up. He was very much a "top guy" and one of Vince's go to guys before he got involved with Steph. In fact, it was probably only the fact Vince trusted Hunter so much that he eventually let Steph see him. I won't argue that after that, sometimes he got favourable booking - but he never got handed the world title as a result of that until at least 2003. If you read what I said he wasn't Truly "The Guy" until when he was handed the title. He was always important and one of the top guys but he had Austin and Rock above him. I mean from mid 99 til he tore his quad he was The Top Heel til Austin became Heel. After that they pushed him to the moon and it never really worked because he wasn't that good as a face and as a heel he was good but he wasn't the as great as before and went over all the Faces til Batista, when they finally gave up on him being the top guy. Also I was talking about being the Top Guy, when Triple H won the Tithe before he was handed it he wasn't The Guy like Austin, Hogan, Rock, Cena, Roman, HBK. Hell Rock was only The Guy do to Austin being out, as soon as he returned he pushed back down a peg. I'd agree with that, but him becoming the top superstar in the end wasn't a result of Stephanie, it was the retirement of #1 (Austin) and #2 disappearing off to Hollywood. He was effectively promoted by that happening. I think the failure of his face run was partly down to the booking of Jericho as basically not being a threat to him (through being p*ssy whipped by Steph) a hero is only really as good as his respective villain. Plus it was also pretty much a foregone conclusion that following his January return, he was winning the Rumble and taking the title at Mania. That also hurt him as a face, because there's no need to have the people hoping it happened, because it was obvious. Then also you had his coronation taking place in the shadow of Hogan and Rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackalicious Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 There is a difference between being "The Guy" and being a Main Eventer. Normally if you are world champion it means you are a main eventer. SOME get their without a world title but MOST don't. The World Title means you are one of the important guys, Not the Guy. Hogan, Austin, Rock (Austin was out), Triple H, John Cena where the guy at some point in their time, when did they become that thought. Hogan when he won the World Title from the Iron Sheik, Austin when he won it from HBK, Rock was just given it due to Austin being out, Triple H was...well he was handed the World Title because he was with Stephanie and was one of the top guys, and Cena was given it when beat JBL for the Title. Most of the time the World Title means something important, exempt when WWE has 2 world titles then one will at some point not be important. And sometimes people become bigger than the title, Like Austin, Rock, Hogan, Lesnar, Taker, etc. Triple H was given the WWF Title first before he started seeing Stephanie. He won it off Foley in August 99. The angle with Stephanie (which actually began their off screen relationship) wasn't until November. He was given it simply because he was the very best heel on the roster at the time, and a perfect foil for Foley and the Rock to chase. He was so hated as a heel he even managed to turn Vince face for Armageddon, and the naive sweet Stephanie into an evil bitch at the same event. People seem to think that he got everything handed to him because he was family, in fact it's worth recalling that he ate everything for the Curtain Call, went to the very bottom of the card as a result and worked his way up. He was very much a "top guy" and one of Vince's go to guys before he got involved with Steph. In fact, it was probably only the fact Vince trusted Hunter so much that he eventually let Steph see him. I won't argue that after that, sometimes he got favourable booking - but he never got handed the world title as a result of that until at least 2003. If you read what I said he wasn't Truly "The Guy" until when he was handed the title. He was always important and one of the top guys but he had Austin and Rock above him. I mean from mid 99 til he tore his quad he was The Top Heel til Austin became Heel. After that they pushed him to the moon and it never really worked because he wasn't that good as a face and as a heel he was good but he wasn't the as great as before and went over all the Faces til Batista, when they finally gave up on him being the top guy. Also I was talking about being the Top Guy, when Triple H won the Tithe before he was handed it he wasn't The Guy like Austin, Hogan, Rock, Cena, Roman, HBK. Hell Rock was only The Guy do to Austin being out, as soon as he returned he pushed back down a peg. I'd agree with that, but him becoming the top superstar in the end wasn't a result of Stephanie, it was the retirement of #1 (Austin) and #2 disappearing off to Hollywood. He was effectively promoted by that happening. I think the failure of his face run was partly down to the booking of Jericho as basically not being a threat to him (through being p*ssy whipped by Steph) a hero is only really as good as his respective villain. Plus it was also pretty much a foregone conclusion that following his January return, he was winning the Rumble and taking the title at Mania. That also hurt him as a face, because there's no need to have the people hoping it happened, because it was obvious. Then also you had his coronation taking place in the shadow of Hogan and Rock. Plus I do think that being the top heel for almost 2 years then try to comeback as a big face kinda killed it. Like he had a great Pop for his return then it was all down hill. He was the most hated guy who took out Austin, Foley, helped take out Rock, and now we buy he's the top face pushing Rock & Austin out of the way when the fans loved both more, hell they loved Hogan more when he returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classiq. Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 WWE announced the following today: Jack Swagger released WWE has come to terms on the release of Jack Swagger as of today, March 13, 2017. WWE wishes Swagger the best in all his future endeavors. As noted, the former World Heavyweight Champion revealed last week that he had requested his release from the company after being unhappy with the way he was being booked. Swagger promised fans we will see more of him around the wrestling world in the near future but he is under a standard non-compete with WWE. http://www.dailywrestlingnews.com/wwe-wishes-jack-swagger-the-best-in-his-future-endeavors/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushy. Posted March 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 That was quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNFNS Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Gotta wait 3 months for Jack Hager to show up in the Impact Zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Always wondered...since the verbiage is "non-compete"...does that mean he could show up in a non-wrestling role and then just segue into wrestling when that time is up? Kinda like what Aries did in WWE during his recovery...stay relevant, still be on television, just not compete? If so, I think he could easily show up in Japan or on Impact as someone's bodyguard or something. Unless "non-compete" actually means "not work for the competition"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fight Me. Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 I think he can start working indies, but not anywhere that is televised for 3 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNFNS Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Always found that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Kazu Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Always wondered...since the verbiage is "non-compete"...does that mean he could show up in a non-wrestling role and then just segue into wrestling when that time is up? Kinda like what Aries did in WWE during his recovery...stay relevant, still be on television, just not compete? If so, I think he could easily show up in Japan or on Impact as someone's bodyguard or something. Unless "non-compete" actually means "not work for the competition"... I'd say no. I mean wrestling isn't actually a competition so being on TV pretending to be a bodyguard or being on TV pretending to fight someone should be treated as the same thing, right? I don't think WWE's non-compete clauses stand up in court anyway so, whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M3J Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Hopefully Swagger finds his character, without joining TNA. Good wrestler, but not a good personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fight Me. Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 The "We The People" thing still seemed pretty over when Dutch Mantell did it on Impact last week. But yeah, I hope Swagger just does some indies for a while and kills it before popping up anywhere like Impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushy. Posted March 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Of course it's going to be over if his first appearance on TV is saying his famous catch phrase. Whether it sticks is what remains to be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeM Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Hopefully Swagger finds his character, without joining TNA. Good wrestler, but not a good personality. Given TNA's track record under Jarrett, I reckon he'd be world champion within a month. "Oohh he used to wrestle in WWE - push him". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNFNS Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) Nvm Totally read that incorrectly. Edited March 14, 2017 by TheNewF'NShow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Hopefully Swagger finds his character, without joining TNA. Good wrestler, but not a good personality. Given TNA's track record under Jarrett, I reckon he'd be world champion within a month. "Oohh he used to wrestle in WWE - push him". Didn't realise you were still stuck in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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