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I enjoyed the worm and liked Scottys crazy hats and dance moves like many others. but he wasn't anywhere close to as over as Ryder. The too cool faction were a fun team but Scotty 2 hotty by himself was not that over. Especially when Grand Master left and Rikishi fizzled back into retirement.

 

but yeah seriously. There's no reason why Ryder wouldn't make it as a Upper midcarder that competes consistently for the US and/or Intercontinal Championship. Scotty on the other hand was a career tag team guy at best.

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I'm incredibly tired of hearing about Survivor Series '11. Stop beating the same old drum.

 

Awesome Truth should've gone over tbh

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I'm incredibly tired of hearing about Survivor Series '11. Stop beating the same old drum.

Well...maybe people should then stop saying that Ryder wasn't over. o.ô

He was, but it's still a dry as *Censored* argument at this point. Same as people constantly bringing up Kofi's feud with Orton in 2009 whenever Kofi's character comes into discussion. Its a deadbeat point and doesn't really be made anymore.

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I'm incredibly tired of hearing about Survivor Series '11. Stop beating the same old drum.

Well...maybe people should then stop saying that Ryder wasn't over. o.ô

He was, but it's still a dry as *Censored* argument at this point. Same as people constantly bringing up Kofi's feud with Orton in 2009 whenever Kofi's character comes into discussion. Its a deadbeat point and doesn't really be made anymore.

 

There is a difference.

Kofi Kingston being good NOW has nothing to do with who he was in 2009

Zack Ryder never being over can be dissproved by bringing up Survivor Series'11. Especially if someone says that Scotty 2 Hotty was more over.

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Why would Ryder wanna go to TNA though? He'll probably end up as part of the bromance seeing as TNA like factions so much.

 

As for someone earlier mentioning NXT. I'd agree with that if it weren't for it being Triple H's baby. That is if this story about Triple H hating Ryder is true. How do we know it's not Vince?

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This muppet would have left by now if he wanted to.

Or they could be refusing to grant his release.

Because he is such a huge assett to the company and need him around? No. If they allowed Justin Gabriel to quit then Zack Ryder could up and leave whenever he wants. Oh and before you up and say "Ryder was over in 2011 at Survivor Series" for the billionth time and that Gabriel never was, don't bother. That is irrelevant. Recently, both Gabriel and Ryder were in the exact same unused jobber talent position. He spends the majority of his time at home anyway and it would mean not wasting money on an unused talent.

 

So no RyderFan" (which btw is an awkward name to have to type out) it appears Zack enjoys his easy living and pay check with WWE despite having grievances about not being used.

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This muppet would have left by now if he wanted to.

Or they could be refusing to grant his release.
Because he is such a huge assett to the company and need him around? No. If they allowed Justin Gabriel to quit then Zack Ryder could up and leave whenever he wants. Oh and before you up and say "Ryder was over in 2011 at Survivor Series" for the billionth time and that Gabriel never was, don't bother. That is irrelevant. Recently, both Gabriel and Ryder were in the exact same unused jobber talent position. He spends the majority of his time at home anyway and it would mean not wasting money on an unused talent.

 

So no RyderFan" (which btw is an awkward name to have to type out) it appears Zack enjoys his easy living and pay check with WWE despite having grievances about not being used.

Or it could be Vince hates anything he didn't create or can take credit for. Z! True Long Island Story, a YouTube show Zack created of his own accord, got Zack over, not anything on WWE TV. He's trying to keep the Ryder situation as quiet as possible. Forcing him to stay and job would be better than releasing him and having him free to cut shoot promos, make more YouTube shows and get over elsewhere. Thing with Gabriel is that Gabriel was never as over as Zack was and is. Zack may spend the majority of his time at home but I'm sure Vince's ego would rather he was at home than getting over elsewhere.

 

So Creep*, (Don't see how your name is anymore awkward than mine.) It could be Zack want to keep his job despite his grievances, it could be that he's asked for it and got denied. Neither one of us knows the full story right now.

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This muppet would have left by now if he wanted to.

Or they could be refusing to grant his release.
Because he is such a huge assett to the company and need him around? No. If they allowed Justin Gabriel to quit then Zack Ryder could up and leave whenever he wants. Oh and before you up and say "Ryder was over in 2011 at Survivor Series" for the billionth time and that Gabriel never was, don't bother. That is irrelevant. Recently, both Gabriel and Ryder were in the exact same unused jobber talent position. He spends the majority of his time at home anyway and it would mean not wasting money on an unused talent.

 

So no RyderFan" (which btw is an awkward name to have to type out) it appears Zack enjoys his easy living and pay check with WWE despite having grievances about not being used.

Or it could be Vince hates anything he didn't create or can take credit for. Z! True Long Island Story, a YouTube show Zack created of his own accord, got Zack over, not anything on WWE TV. He's trying to keep the Ryder situation as quiet as possible. Forcing him to stay and job would be better than releasing him and having him free to cut shoot promos, make more YouTube shows and get over elsewhere. Thing with Gabriel is that Gabriel was never as over as Zack was and is. Zack may spend the majority of his time at home but I'm sure Vince's ego would rather he was at home than getting over elsewhere.

 

So Creep*, (Don't see how your name is anymore awkward than mine.) It could be Zack want to keep his job despite his grievances, it could be that he's asked for it and got denied. Neither one of us knows the full story right now.

Because you change your name all the time. Is it CHZRFan, HawkinsRyderFan, RyderFan? Nobody knows.

 

Also please stop clinging to these bullshit conspiracy theories, it's not good for you.

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This muppet would have left by now if he wanted to.

Or they could be refusing to grant his release.
Because he is such a huge assett to the company and need him around? No. If they allowed Justin Gabriel to quit then Zack Ryder could up and leave whenever he wants. Oh and before you up and say "Ryder was over in 2011 at Survivor Series" for the billionth time and that Gabriel never was, don't bother. That is irrelevant. Recently, both Gabriel and Ryder were in the exact same unused jobber talent position. He spends the majority of his time at home anyway and it would mean not wasting money on an unused talent.

 

So no RyderFan" (which btw is an awkward name to have to type out) it appears Zack enjoys his easy living and pay check with WWE despite having grievances about not being used.

Or it could be Vince hates anything he didn't create or can take credit for. Z! True Long Island Story, a YouTube show Zack created of his own accord, got Zack over, not anything on WWE TV. He's trying to keep the Ryder situation as quiet as possible. Forcing him to stay and job would be better than releasing him and having him free to cut shoot promos, make more YouTube shows and get over elsewhere. Thing with Gabriel is that Gabriel was never as over as Zack was and is. Zack may spend the majority of his time at home but I'm sure Vince's ego would rather he was at home than getting over elsewhere.

 

So Creep*, (Don't see how your name is anymore awkward than mine.) It could be Zack want to keep his job despite his grievances, it could be that he's asked for it and got denied. Neither one of us knows the full story right now.

Because you change your name all the time. Is it CHZRFan, HawkinsRyderFan, RyderFan? Nobody knows.

 

Also please stop clinging to these bullshit conspiracy theories, it's not good for you.

It'll soon be just 'Fan'.

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This muppet would have left by now if he wanted to.

Or they could be refusing to grant his release.
Because he is such a huge assett to the company and need him around? No. If they allowed Justin Gabriel to quit then Zack Ryder could up and leave whenever he wants. Oh and before you up and say "Ryder was over in 2011 at Survivor Series" for the billionth time and that Gabriel never was, don't bother. That is irrelevant. Recently, both Gabriel and Ryder were in the exact same unused jobber talent position. He spends the majority of his time at home anyway and it would mean not wasting money on an unused talent.

 

So no RyderFan" (which btw is an awkward name to have to type out) it appears Zack enjoys his easy living and pay check with WWE despite having grievances about not being used.

Or it could be Vince hates anything he didn't create or can take credit for. Z! True Long Island Story, a YouTube show Zack created of his own accord, got Zack over, not anything on WWE TV. He's trying to keep the Ryder situation as quiet as possible. Forcing him to stay and job would be better than releasing him and having him free to cut shoot promos, make more YouTube shows and get over elsewhere. Thing with Gabriel is that Gabriel was never as over as Zack was and is. Zack may spend the majority of his time at home but I'm sure Vince's ego would rather he was at home than getting over elsewhere.

 

So Creep*, (Don't see how your name is anymore awkward than mine.) It could be Zack want to keep his job despite his grievances, it could be that he's asked for it and got denied. Neither one of us knows the full story right now.

Because you change your name all the time. Is it CHZRFan, HawkinsRyderFan, RyderFan? Nobody knows.

 

Also please stop clinging to these bullshit conspiracy theories, it's not good for you.

It'll soon be just 'Fan'.

He only changed it so we can't say HRfan :lol:

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