Phantasmagore Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Oh yeah, I remember him being the punching bag during the Cena/Kane feud. There was a segment where Kane tried to drag Ryder to "hell". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King RyderFan Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Mostly because him winning the US championship was a memorable moment. It was seen as a successful culmination of the Ryder Revolution. The next two champions were Jack Swagger and Santino Marella. Jack Swagger instantly lost the championship and Santino's title reign might as well have been nonexistent. So yeah, I claim that Ryder lowered the prestige of the US championship. He unintentionally triggered a chain of events which had resulted in the US championship being a meaningless object until a few months ago when Rusev won it. How is the fact that Santino and Swagger had bad runs Ryder's fault? You can't blame the previous champion for the next ones having bad runs. Might as well blame CM Punk for Rock's shitty titke run in 2013, since Rock beat Punk for the belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 #ReleaseRyder #ReleaseCesaro Ryder was another superstar to lower the US title prestigeYou being a U.S. Citizen lowers the U.S. PrestigeIsn't Creep British? Yes I am lmfao Ryder was another superstar to lower the US title prestige That's just stupid. ...but I think you're joking. I wasn't being that serious tbf I was just messing. I dont even remember much about that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyriqz ✪ Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 I wish Ryder was a midcarder in WWE. I like him and he's good enough to add to a good midcard. But then again, WWE seems to love generic people over distinct characters for their midcard, so I'm not surprised at his (or Slater's, or Dallas's etc.) misuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantasmagore Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Slater is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vapor Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Why not have Ryder as a midcarder? I don't understand it. He's still over, popular, he's okay in the ring and he's got a different gimmick. WWE keeps some people on their midcard that no one gives a shit about, yet they don't use Ryder who people still somewhat care about. Even his Royal Rumble pop was good. Stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPC Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Because Vince don't care about the midcard in general. WWE just keeps who they already have there and use everyone else as jobbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise of Nightmares Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Because Vince don't care about the midcard in general. No, because if he did, the midcard titles would have more prestige than they currently do, hopefully the rumors of WWE adding prestige to them after Wrestlemania is true, because things would be more interesting if there were more titles being featured, especially with WWE Champion Brock Lesnar being part time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kta Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Didn't know he was still on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion™ Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 People still carw about Zack Ryder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Than Light Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 People still carw about Zack Ryder? yes, people still carw about Zack Ryder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise of Nightmares Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 People still carw about Zack Ryder? Apparently so, did you not see HawkinsRyderfan defending him in this topic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crack. Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 People still carw about Zack Ryder? yes, people still carw about Zack Ryder Scorpion's high already and the pre-show isn't even on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion™ Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 God damn. I'm on my phone I don't bother fixing lite errors like that haha. Let's all be friendly today. Its gonna be lackluster tonight we'll need each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XavMashes Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Ryder is still over, he had a massive pop when he entered the Rumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostOutside Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 If you seriously think Ryder is anything other than lower midcard.... you are kidding yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 #DontGiveRyderAChance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion™ Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 If you seriously think Ryder is anything other than lower midcard.... you are kidding yourself. Thank you. Thinking that Ryder could ever be anything more is like saying Scotty 2 Hotty could have been a main eventer and trust me he was more over than Ryder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King RyderFan Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 If you seriously think Ryder is anything other than lower midcard.... you are kidding yourself.Thank you. Thinking that Ryder could ever be anything more is like saying Scotty 2 Hotty could have been a main eventer and trust me he was more over than Ryder No. Just no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion™ Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Yes. That Woo Woo Woo thing isn't nearly as over as W-O-R-M! Don't bring up his social media followers because that doesn't measure overness, Scotty was way more over in 2000-2001 than Ryder has ever been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyriqz ✪ Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Yes. That Woo Woo Woo thing isn't nearly as over as W-O-R-M! Don't bring up his social media followers because that doesn't measure overness, Scotty was way more over in 2000-2001 than Ryder has ever been Not really. Like, not even remotely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King RyderFan Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Yes. That Woo Woo Woo thing isn't nearly as over as W-O-R-M! Don't bring up his social media followers because that doesn't measure overness, Scotty was way more over in 2000-2001 than Ryder has ever been I wasn't going to. When have people ever chanted for Scotty during a Rock promo? They did for Zack at Survivor Series 2011. The chants were so loud Rock was forced to acknowledge them. Scotty was a midcard fixture during WWE's most popular time. Zack is enhancement talent during a low point in WWE's history, and he still got a great pop that rivaled guys like Ambrose & Ziggler at the Rumble this year. Not to mention Attitude era crowds on the whole are far louder than the crowds of today, of course it looks like Scotty would be more over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muur Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Ryder was another superstar to lower the US title prestige You being a U.S. Citizen lowers the U.S. Prestige LOL anyway Ryder was pretty over and he was screwed over when Swagger killed him I don't think he would've lasted much longer and would've eventually dropped back down to where he is WWE were harsh with him though, shoving him back down quickly. As for the US title chase, yes it was good but World title is pushing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion™ Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 I'd still say Scotty was more over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 I'd still say Scotty was more over Where there Scotty 2 Hotty chants during a Rock segment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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