Bushy. Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 So surreal. You wouldn't think something as simple as a choreographed dropkick from a professional would ever end someone's life. /: leaves me feeling so uneasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVIP Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmieRklWdaE#t=406 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fried Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 "Pero en esta ocacion me pregunto porque y no lo entiendo, te extrañare y te llevare conmigo el resto de mi vida,descansa en Paz HijoDelPerro" "But on this occasion I wonder why and I do not understand , miss you and I will take with me the rest of my life , rest in peace HijoDelPerro" Rey jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedmaniac Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmieRklWdaE#t=406 The setup for the 619 doesn't even look violent. I would have said it was the fall outside that killed him, but he seems to get back in the ring on his own accord within a few seconds, and after taking the dropkick he seems to hit the second rope with his throat and after that he seems lifeless. No ones fault really. I read somewhere that the ropes in Mexico are made out of steel or some other hard metal as opposed to the US where they are some type of softer fabric. I imagine taking a steel rope to the throat would be enough to kill anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowley Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 I've already seen way too many people blaming this on Rey. Apparently the wrestling experts out there have decided that Rey hit him too hard with the dropkick that he uses to set up the 619. I love how people who know nothing about what actually goes into making a match work and probably don't even follow lucha libre have the gall to look at a short video clip on the internet of a man dying and say, "yeah i can tell he totes stiffed him wit dat dropkick." That may be, but I thought it was reported that he died from whiplash...in which case, the dropkick is the only logical explanation, considering that he was fine before it, and unresponsive immediately afterward. Only other thing that could have killed him would be a heart attack, or some sort of overdose, really. But like I said...I thought whiplash was the reported cause of death... Yeah, everywhere seems to be reporting that he died from hitting that rope. You can't blame Rey or the dropkick though. It's just a crazy, unfortunate freak accident. It sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmieRklWdaE#t=406 The setup for the 619 doesn't even look violent. I would have said it was the fall outside that killed him, but he seems to get back in the ring on his own accord within a few seconds, and after taking the dropkick he seems to hit the second rope with his throat and after that he seems lifeless. No ones fault really. I read somewhere that the ropes in Mexico are made out of steel or some other hard metal as opposed to the US where they are some type of softer fabric. I imagine taking a steel rope to the throat would be enough to kill anyone. Except, he didn't die from a crushed larynx or something... A crushing blow to throat could kill you, but it would be a violent end. Coughing up blood, struggling to breathe, etc. The fact that he just lays there limply would suggest that his brain stopped functioning at the exact moment that contact was made...as if his spinal cord simply disconnected from his brain stem. Unplugged from life like a lamp. The lights went off and never came back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunchbox Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Seriously is there a reason to fight about this? A man died, it was a accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedmaniac Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Konnan probably didn't help things the way he was shaking him and moving him like that. I read somewhere that there may be manslaughter charges as the investigation to his death begins. This was just an AP report I read on Yahoo, so it may just be nothing but hopefully no one is charged here, it was a clear as day freak accident. I gotta say this though, it's times like these that I am most proud to be a fan of lucha-libre/wrestling. These guys give their all, and sometimes even their lives to entertain us. I will keep watching, in fact today I will watch LU followed by a AAA show, and then tomorrow will be CMLL on Sunday. My love for it just got stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Seriously is there a reason to fight about this? A man died, it was a accident. Nobody's fighting. Let's not make drama where there is none, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROSS-Out Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Accidents happen, unfortunately. I don't blame Rey at all for this, as any number of circumstances that we can't even see, to the tiniest little thing, could have helped cause it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedmaniac Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Some pics of a young Perro Jr. with his dad and friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Vercetti Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 I saw the vid via TMZ and it broke my heart Couldn't even watch the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E#37 Posted March 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 One of my favorite matches of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunchbox Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Rey seems like the only one who knew something was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Rey seems like the only one who knew something was wrong. Probably because of his time in WWE...where a match is stopped at the first sign of trouble. Konnan was really cringe-worthy though. I hate seeing shit like that when someone gets injured. First thing you learn in health class is that you're never supposed to jostle someone around like that. Seems like pretty basic knowledge. And yet, here's Konnan...dude dropped him right on his head and then started shaking him like he owed him money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Astro Zombie Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Rey seems like the only one who knew something was wrong. Probably because of his time in WWE...where a match is stopped at the first sign of trouble. Konnan was really cringe-worthy though. I hate seeing shit like that when someone gets injured. First thing you learn in health class is that you're never supposed to jostle someone around like that. Seems like pretty basic knowledge. And yet, here's Konnan...dude dropped him right on his head and then started shaking him like he owed him money. Hindsight is 20/20. Konnan (As well as most of the others) most likely assumed that he passed out. From the video I saw, Manik also started nudging Perro after the 619 spot. I saw a video on a Facebook link and Perro seemed to really change as he rolled into the ring. He seemed to get weak/go limp as he was rolling in. I don't think it's right to blame Rey, Konnan, or anyone. It was a freak accident. I feel it's unfortunate that people would prefer to argue over could haves and should haves rather than discuss/celebrate his life/career/legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedmaniac Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 That's probably where the manslaughter charges will come in, not on any one individual, but on how the company handled the situation. Yeah, watching some more matches of his. Great heel. He is what Randy Orton has tried to be in his heel runs, except that he is not as quick, or as charismatic and not nearly as good in-ring as Perro was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E#37 Posted March 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 One of his last matches in AAA that has aired so far. There might be a couple more that stil have to air because they tape way in advance, but i'm not too sure about that. He destroys Myzteziz(former Sin Cara) after the match and really shows what a son of bitch he really was in pro wrestling/lucha libre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedmaniac Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 ^Good gravy, what an awful looking attire Myztesis was wearing. Anyways, skipped to the end to find everyone, even the ref covered in blood, like a bomb had gone off or something. Really cool how he wipes some blood on that fans t-shirt. Bet that guy will keep that shirt for ever, or probably he'll try to sell it now after what's happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E#37 Posted March 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 ^Good gravy, what an awful looking attire Myztesis was wearing. Anyways, skipped to the end to find everyone, even the ref covered in blood, like a bomb had gone off or something. Really cool how he wipes some blood on that fans t-shirt. Bet that guy will keep that shirt for ever, or probably he'll try to sell it now after what's happened. Yeah he always had great fan interaction, like for example here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedmaniac Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 lol. He just spit the fans own drink in his face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXX. Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 That's really sad, you can tell Rey knew something was wrong and responded correctly. It just goes to show how dangerous this sport really is sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVIP Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_4-tffjVn4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmerc Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Such a terrible situation. RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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