Lil' Kazu Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Getting a pin over the most over guy in the promotion and a PPV main event for the 2nd biggest title in the company isn't getting a push? Of course. What I'm saying is, nobody is "ready" to be a champion, until they are the champion. If you keep dangling the prize and then pulling it away, you can keep someone down for a long time. What is the measure of how "ready" Juice is? How would we even know that he can or can't draw...unless he's put in the position to do so? Like I said...the crowds generally love Juice. He always gets a good reaction. Where does the "he's not ready to draw a crowd" mentality even come from? How could anyone claim to know that? If you get a reputation for always being the guy who tries really hard and comes up short, then you end up like Dolph Ziggler...with not a goddamn person giving two shits about you. I really don't want Juice to become NJPW's Dolph Ziggler. 100% disagree with that. And I never said you can be sure someone isn't a draw but that was the decision they made. Yano gets good reactions but I would say people wouldn't come in droves to see him in main event matches. Do I know for sure he can't draw as IC champ? No but I can predict that would be the case. At the end of the day it's a booking decision. They could've pulled the trigger and gave Juice the belt but they decided it wasn't his time. Probably because they wanted a huge match to semi main event Dominion and I don't think any match with Juice would be bigger than Tanahashi vs Naito. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Yano is a clown. He doesn't get "good reactions"...people just laugh at the shit he does. BIG difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 (edited) Yano is a clown. He doesn't get "good reactions"...people just laugh at the shit he does. BIG difference. yeah... No.*Ya... No. Edited June 30, 2017 by Vinsmoker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Kazu Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 Yano is a clown. He doesn't get "good reactions"...people just laugh at the shit he does. BIG difference. Okay, Makabe, then. Or Yoshi-Hashi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 (edited) Yano is a clown. He doesn't get "good reactions"...people just laugh at the shit he does. BIG difference. Okay, Makabe, then. Or Yoshi-Hashi. Makabe has been a champion...and I don't really have a reason why Yoshi-Hashi wouldn't work as a champion. So...I'm not following what you're saying. I thought you were on about good reactions not being enough to be a champion. Also, I'd like to point out that we're talking about the IC title, not the heavyweight belt. A few liberties can be taken with the IC title. It's not the "main" draw. You're acting like I'm saying that Juice should be the heavyweight champion or something. Edited June 30, 2017 by Generations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Kazu Posted June 30, 2017 Report Share Posted June 30, 2017 NJPW needs the IC champ to draw, that's all I'm saying. In WWE that's not necessary. All I'm saying is Juice isn't a big enough draw to hold the IC championship at this point. Of course I can't prove it but that's my prediction, probably the same one Gedo had and probably why they didn't have Naito drop the belt to Juice. It's a decision that can be argued but makes sense. And again they like to have a stacked card at Dominion and no Juice match would be anywhere near Naito vs Tana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunchbox Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Naito shouldn't have dropped the belt TBH. Feel like LINJ are gaining so much momentum, especially Naito. Speaking of love Natio shitting all over the US title tournament and already threatening to destroy that title too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niffan Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 (edited) Naito only dropped that belt because he will win the G1 IMO. There is so much history to draw upon there. Naito won the G1 heading into WK8, pushed as a babyface main eventer that failed to get over. Eventually NJPW did a fan poll where it was decided that people wanted to see the IWGP Intercontinental championship match between Nakamura and Tanahashi main event over Okada vs Naito. In that respect it makes so much sense that Naito treated the IC belt the way he did - he holds a grudge against it. Naito's demeanour then slowly changed into the lovable, ungovernable belt destroying man we all know today. Then at WK10 Okada beats 'The Ace of NJPW' Hiroshi Tanahashi in what can be considered a passing of the torch. At WK11 Naito beats Tanahashi as well, accomplishing the same feat as Okada. A WK12 vindication will be upon us as Naito finally gets his rightful main event match against Okada. Edited July 1, 2017 by Niffan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Kazu Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Speaking of love Natio shitting all over the US title tournament and already threatening to destroy that title too. He said he wanted to do a Kojima and offer his spot in the tournament to someone else lmao. Naito's demeanour then slowly changed into the lovable, ungovernable belt destroying man we all know today. Lovable?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niffan Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 He is lovable in the Steve Austin kind of way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Kazu Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 I do love him... I think Hiromu is more lovable, though. Especially now with Daryl, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niffan Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Hiromu is everything. He is genuinely such a good wrestler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Kazu Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Other than Okada and maybe Omega he's my wrestler of the year. I don't miss a match he's on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niffan Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 That's saying something considering the year those other two have had. I think this year was the first where I really started appreciating how good Okada really is. Hiromu has been on fire since returning home. Definitely a much needed breath of fresh air in the Jr division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E#37 Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 (edited) Naito's theme? Edited July 1, 2017 by E#37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fight Me. Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Lmao I hear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nerd Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 I hope to God they pull the trailer and give the title to Cody. I would cry so hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classiq. Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted July 1, 2017 Report Share Posted July 1, 2017 Naito's theme? Would make an awesome WK entrance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E#37 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Oh oh, small ass crowd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssaultDriver720 Posted July 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Isn't it like 6,000? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E#37 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 During the pre-show it had lots of empty seats, but it seems to have filled up now. 6000? Nah, i don't think so. That must have been the total tickets sold spread out over 2 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ! Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Ross has been *censored*ing up all night I want this Okada/Cody match to be good sooo bad. I'm nervous. Tanga Roa is *censored*in hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNFNS Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) Please throw the towel, didn't think Cody could have such an uninteresting match with Okada. Edit: I take it back a little, the false finishes and finisher sequences picked it up a bit. I really hope they don't put the title on Cody. Edited July 2, 2017 by TheNewF'NShow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ! Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 That was definitely Cody's best showing so far and it was good match, but gotdamn Cody has a ton to work on. Get that man in the dojo. Any word on this where this issue with Cody and Omega is going? I know Omega isn't going anywhere, and I doubt Cody is returning to WWE already. Is he? I'm only asking because I know somebody is getting superkicked out the group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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