Bronson Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I feel like I'm gonna have to watch that match again when it's not past 3:00 in the morning my time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNFNS Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I feel like I'm gonna have to watch that match again when it's not past 3:00 in the morning my time. Same, it was a great match though. Might appreciate it more with my full attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostOutside Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Those last two matches were beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classiq. Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I feel like I'm gonna have to watch that match again when it's not past 3:00 in the morning my time. Same, it was a great match though. Might appreciate it more with my full attention. I agree with you both. Fell asleep during the main event. Not happy with myself that that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostOutside Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Last 3 matches made the show. Rest was good, but the last 3 was awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classiq. Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 The 4-Way Tag Team match was great too. The Jr. Tag Team matches are always something I look forward to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Haven't watched like any New Japan but that card looks awesome, gonna check it out soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fight Me. Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Can't find this anywhere and I'm sad. Maybe I should watched this live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St★rstruck Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Are we allowed to PM links or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fight Me. Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I think? If not, it's cool. Don't wanna get anyone in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNFNS Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 #4Times, #TooSweet There are reports of Nakamura and a few Bullet Club guys leaving. Triple H is getting his ego ready, cause he's about to take a shower in the IWC's tears of joy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostOutside Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Well, this sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNFNS Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Big Match Meltz confirmed that WWE basically raided them for talent, got Styles, Gallows 'n' Gun, and Nakamura on their radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostOutside Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Sigh. Can't wait to watch Nakamura trade wins with Neville and guys like Barrett on SmackDown... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St★rstruck Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 lmfao. I totally cannot see Nakamura in WWE for some reason. AJ, yes...I'd love to see him in NXT. Both would definitely be some of the biggest signings ever. I don't care too much for Gallows and Machine Gun Kelly, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNFNS Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Styles just followed Triple H on twitter. Also, totally missed it but did anyone see Karl Anderson rocking Balor's demon logo on his trunks? Pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostOutside Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Gedo will be forced to shake things up. This is both good, and possibly bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowley Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Nakamura can go ahead and *Censored* off to NXT. Of the three or four main characters in NJPW, he's probably my least favorite. If he leaves it could be a good opportunity for guys like Shibata and Ishii to rise up. I'd be really disappointed if AJ went to WWE though. I have no interest in that whatsoever. Even more disappointing is that I know fans will continue to watch and complain about WWE yet celebrate every time they poach a great wrestler. It seems like Triple H has successfully convinced a lot of people that WWE hurting smaller companies and remaining a monopoly is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNFNS Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Funny you say that, one of the dates Triple H announced for NXT today is in the same town as a ROH show the day after. There was that one time where Triple H booked a NXT the same day as an ROH show. There were those reports of Triple H booking out one of the arenas ROH use, he was actually confronted about that in a conference call but I forgot what his response was. There is also that report about Triple H signing big names to help with the NXT tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowley Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Funny you say that, one of the dates Triple H announced for NXT today is in the same town as a ROH show the day after. There was that one time where Triple H booked a NXT the same day as an ROH show. There were those reports of Triple H booking out one of the arenas ROH use, he was actually confronted about that in a conference call but I forgot what his response was. There is also that report about Triple H signing big names to help with the NXT tour. I was just talking about this in the PWG thread. WWE doesn't discriminate when it comes to what companies they go after. I really believe that their goal is to put every other wrestling company out of business. But they're especially petty when it comes to ROH. They used to get along pretty well with them, but once ROH started introducing more exclusive contracts for wrestlers, WWE got very aggressive. How dare they not allow us to come in and steal their talent on any given day!? Then ROH committed the cardinal sin against WWE; they planned to make merchandize featuring the likeness of a WWE Superstar™! After the Kevin Steen action figure thing, shit hit the fan. It seems like they're willing to use every dirty trick in the book now. The saddest thing is, not only did ROH do nothing wrong, they always had a positive attitude about their stars graduating to WWE and making more money. They wanted to see their wrestlers succeed. WWE on the other hand, clearly doesn't care about anyone who works for ROH. They'd be happy to put them out of business tomorrow and ruin many people's lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNFNS Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Definitely agree with everything said. What ever happened with the NXT/Evolve thing? It's like Triple H used some of their talents and he gave them an inured Zayn for an autograph session and a promo at the end of the show. This is going off topic. I found it stupid that Jado won the Battle Royal to promote that chicks' album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowley Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Definitely agree with everything said. What ever happened with the NXT/Evolve thing? It's like Triple H used some of their talents and he gave them an inured Zayn for an autograph session and a promo at the end of the show. This is going off topic. I found it stupid that Jado won the Battle Royal to promote that chicks' album. As far as I can tell that's pretty much all there is to it. Basically Gabe Sapolsky agreed to let Triple H use Evolve as a farm system. Now they can attract a lot of indie wrestlers hoping to get signed to NXT, plus Gabe gets his revenge on ROH. The Sami Zayn appearance seemed like it was just an advertisement for WWE, aimed at indie wrestlers. It'll be interesting to see if any more WWE wrestlers appear at Evolve shows. Yeah, that was weird. I got the sense that she isn't even that big of a celebrity. Anybody know what her deal is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozay. Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 WWE also sends guys they don't feel are ready or have much to do with yet to EVOLVE to get experience. A former MMA competitor turned wrestler is a WWE contracted wrestler who is competing there, Matt Riddle. So no, the scope of the deal isn't just "WWE uses EVOLVE talent to job in NXT". And I do admit that in most cases, I'm happy when WWE gets a talent from another company, for a very simple reason: to me, they're second best. With all of it's many, many problems, WWE still has one of the styles of wrestling that appeases me the most. So yeah, I like when they poach talent. Especially if it's talent I feel is misused or is in a horrible company. NJPW is that one exception. They're the best. Unfortunately, they're not also the biggest, so they can lose their talent more frequently. I confess, I would be absolutely devastated if Nakamura and Styles left. And also, Nakamura would be a major, MAJOR hit. While not being used as proeminently as Tanahashi and Okada, he is just as popular, draws sell-outs with smaller opponents and provides NJPW with a breathing room so that they don't need to overexpose Tana and Okada even more. There are guys that can step up into Styles' shoes. Nakamura's loss would be way tougher to overcome though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowley Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 WWE also sends guys they don't feel are ready or have much to do with yet to EVOLVE to get experience. A former MMA competitor turned wrestler is a WWE contracted wrestler who is competing there, Matt Riddle. So no, the scope of the deal isn't just "WWE uses EVOLVE talent to job in NXT". And I do admit that in most cases, I'm happy when WWE gets a talent from another company, for a very simple reason: to me, they're second best. With all of it's many, many problems, WWE still has one of the styles of wrestling that appeases me the most. So yeah, I like when they poach talent. Especially if it's talent I feel is misused or is in a horrible company. NJPW is that one exception. They're the best. Unfortunately, they're not also the biggest, so they can lose their talent more frequently. I confess, I would be absolutely devastated if Nakamura and Styles left. And also, Nakamura would be a major, MAJOR hit. While not being used as proeminently as Tanahashi and Okada, he is just as popular, draws sell-outs with smaller opponents and provides NJPW with a breathing room so that they don't need to overexpose Tana and Okada even more. There are guys that can step up into Styles' shoes. Nakamura's loss would be way tougher to overcome though. Is there anyone from Evolve that isn't a jobber/dark match guy in NXT yet? I don't watch the show as much as I did a year ago. I've seen Matt Riddle. I forgot he was a WWE guy. He actually seems pretty cool. In my opinion, they're not second best, or even the third. I think Lucha Underground is by far the best wrestling TV show in the world. I expect to see WWE draw a lot of influence from them in the coming years, just like how Vince borrowed a lot from ECW in the 90's. As far as putting together great cards from top to bottom, I agree that nobody has NJPW beat. PWG comes pretty close though. I like NXT, but I think ROH still does the old school style of wrestling show better. They were going through a rough patch there for a couple of years, but it's gotten pretty damn good recently, especially with Lethal as champ. Balor as the star of NXT has been somewhat underwhelming. As far as filling Nakamura's shoes go, I think Kota Ibushi was that guy but... Yeah. Hopefully he comes back soon. Like I said, I actually wasn't the biggest Nakamura fan in the world and there wasn't many fresh matches left for him so I'm not too sad to see him leave. AJ on the other hand, I'm really disappointed to hear about. I just can't imagine him entertaining me anywhere near as much in WWE. Despite how I feel, I agree Nakamura is the bigger loss for NJPW. Part of the reason I may seem particularly cynical tonight is because I kind of feel like WWE isn't even actually interested in Nakamura so much as they're just excited to create some extra hype. I mean, come on. Do they really even need the guy? What kind of plans could they possibly have for him? He's a 35 year old Japanese guy that barely speaks english (I've heard people say otherwise, but I've yet to see any proof of him bing this fluent speaker) and the average kid watching WWE has no clue who he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classiq. Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Re-watched the main event from WK10 at work today. Just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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