BeansOnToast Posted August 15, 2015 Report Share Posted August 15, 2015 I'm not sure if this is unpopular but recently I was at an indy event and Chris Hero had a match with Tommy End. It was a very indyrific match with a lot of near falls and the fans(me included) enjoyed the hell out of it. Towards the end of the match, Hero spiked Tommy End with a nasty looking piledriver and only got a near fall. I then noticed behind me that 2 old ass guys were legit getting so angry about all the fans in the arena enjoying the match, they began to counter "this is awesome" chants with "no it's not". After the match ended they spoke about how stupid it was that a wrestler kicked out of a piledriver and then went on about "the good old days" My point being, I hate old traditional fans who don't seem to get the fact that wrestling has changed, i'm sure the generation before them hated new generation of that time also. I also can't stand fans at wrestling events who have a massive ego because they know a few wrestlers who some fans don't. It's balls. idk. These guys were at an indy show so I assume they knew what to expect. The "indy style" is something that walks a thin line. I enjoy it, but sometimes the lack of psychology and false finishes is highly irritating. As much as I love independent wrestling, that's a part of it I hate and it's somewhat worrisome that it's slowly creeping into the "WWE Style" tbh. I think in some cases it can be an a overkill but a part of me feels that in this case it falls under the category of "oh my generation was better than yours". I've never seen a grown man get so angry at wrestling, he was so angry at the fact that a wrestler kicked out of a piledriver, it was ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssaultDriver720 Posted August 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 I'm not sure if this is unpopular but recently I was at an indy event and Chris Hero had a match with Tommy End. It was a very indyrific match with a lot of near falls and the fans(me included) enjoyed the hell out of it. Towards the end of the match, Hero spiked Tommy End with a nasty looking piledriver and only got a near fall. I then noticed behind me that 2 old ass guys were legit getting so angry about all the fans in the arena enjoying the match, they began to counter "this is awesome" chants with "no it's not". After the match ended they spoke about how stupid it was that a wrestler kicked out of a piledriver and then went on about "the good old days" My point being, I hate old traditional fans who don't seem to get the fact that wrestling has changed, i'm sure the generation before them hated new generation of that time also. I also can't stand fans at wrestling events who have a massive ego because they know a few wrestlers who some fans don't. It's balls. idk. These guys were at an indy show so I assume they knew what to expect. The "indy style" is something that walks a thin line. I enjoy it, but sometimes the lack of psychology and false finishes is highly irritating. As much as I love independent wrestling, that's a part of it I hate and it's somewhat worrisome that it's slowly creeping into the "WWE Style" tbh. I think in some cases it can be an a overkill but a part of me feels that in this case it falls under the category of "oh my generation was better than yours". I've never seen a grown man get so angry at wrestling, he was so angry at the fact that a wrestler kicked out of a piledriver, it was ridiculous. When was this show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeansOnToast Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 I'm not sure if this is unpopular but recently I was at an indy event and Chris Hero had a match with Tommy End. It was a very indyrific match with a lot of near falls and the fans(me included) enjoyed the hell out of it. Towards the end of the match, Hero spiked Tommy End with a nasty looking piledriver and only got a near fall. I then noticed behind me that 2 old ass guys were legit getting so angry about all the fans in the arena enjoying the match, they began to counter "this is awesome" chants with "no it's not". After the match ended they spoke about how stupid it was that a wrestler kicked out of a piledriver and then went on about "the good old days" My point being, I hate old traditional fans who don't seem to get the fact that wrestling has changed, i'm sure the generation before them hated new generation of that time also. I also can't stand fans at wrestling events who have a massive ego because they know a few wrestlers who some fans don't. It's balls. idk. These guys were at an indy show so I assume they knew what to expect. The "indy style" is something that walks a thin line. I enjoy it, but sometimes the lack of psychology and false finishes is highly irritating. As much as I love independent wrestling, that's a part of it I hate and it's somewhat worrisome that it's slowly creeping into the "WWE Style" tbh. I think in some cases it can be an a overkill but a part of me feels that in this case it falls under the category of "oh my generation was better than yours". I've never seen a grown man get so angry at wrestling, he was so angry at the fact that a wrestler kicked out of a piledriver, it was ridiculous. When was this show? Last week, its for a promotion called Southside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssaultDriver720 Posted August 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 I'm not sure if this is unpopular but recently I was at an indy event and Chris Hero had a match with Tommy End. It was a very indyrific match with a lot of near falls and the fans(me included) enjoyed the hell out of it. Towards the end of the match, Hero spiked Tommy End with a nasty looking piledriver and only got a near fall. I then noticed behind me that 2 old ass guys were legit getting so angry about all the fans in the arena enjoying the match, they began to counter "this is awesome" chants with "no it's not". After the match ended they spoke about how stupid it was that a wrestler kicked out of a piledriver and then went on about "the good old days" My point being, I hate old traditional fans who don't seem to get the fact that wrestling has changed, i'm sure the generation before them hated new generation of that time also. I also can't stand fans at wrestling events who have a massive ego because they know a few wrestlers who some fans don't. It's balls. idk. These guys were at an indy show so I assume they knew what to expect. The "indy style" is something that walks a thin line. I enjoy it, but sometimes the lack of psychology and false finishes is highly irritating. As much as I love independent wrestling, that's a part of it I hate and it's somewhat worrisome that it's slowly creeping into the "WWE Style" tbh. I think in some cases it can be an a overkill but a part of me feels that in this case it falls under the category of "oh my generation was better than yours". I've never seen a grown man get so angry at wrestling, he was so angry at the fact that a wrestler kicked out of a piledriver, it was ridiculous. When was this show? Last week, its for a promotion called Southside Guess they were expecting World of Sports era wrestling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oresama Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 The Young Bucks. I don't like them, I never have. I think their style is terrible and I don't know what anyone sees in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willows Way Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 The Young Bucks. I don't like them, I never have. I think their style s terrible and I don't know what anyone sees in them. Im glad im not alone. They are good but i think very highly overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 The Young Bucks. I don't like them, I never have. I think their style s terrible and I don't know what anyone sees in them. Im glad im not alone. They are good but i think very highly overrated. You have a different opinion than him though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverse DVD Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Maybe it's because I stopped watching Lucha Underground frequently when he was associated with Chavo or maybe it's because people are blowing things out of proportion but Pentagón Jr strikes me more as someone trying to look cool than a serious badass with swag to spare. Then again, I find Drago to be one of the coolest guys in that roster so maybe my thoughts on Pentagón don't have much weight to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedmaniac Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 The Young Bucks. I don't like them, I never have. I think their style s terrible and I don't know what anyone sees in them. Same here to be honest. They seem more like back yard wrestlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarDaddyPlease Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 ZSJ is the greatest known pure wrestler on the planet by A LOT. Thats any fed, any country, every match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willows Way Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Maybe it's because I stopped watching Lucha Underground frequently when he was associated with Chavo or maybe it's because people are blowing things out of proportion but Pentagón Jr strikes me more as someone trying to look cool than a serious badass with swag to spare. Then again, I find Drago to be one of the coolest guys in that roster so maybe my thoughts on Pentagón don't have much weight to them. Nah man i gotta disagree on Pentagon. Anyone who looks cool like he does, breaks peoples arms, threatens to light people on fire and has a match like he had with Vampiro is a badass lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNFNS Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 ZSJ is the greatest known pure wrestler on the planet by A LOT. Thats any fed, any country, every match Yeah, between him, Thatcher and Gulak...ZSJ takes it. Those are probably my top 3 in that category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushy. Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 I love Ricochet, but I hate the Prince Puma character. It was so stale, and boring. There was no character development throughout the season at all with the guy, no attire change, nothing. I can't believe I was rooting so hard for him to lose the belt to Mil. I really like Mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Zombie Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 ZSJ is the greatest known pure wrestler on the planet by A LOT. Thats any fed, any country, every matchYeah, between him, Thatcher and Gulak...ZSJ takes it. Those are probably my top 3 in that category. In my experience, English wrestlers are better trained wrestlers than their US counterparts. The only real UK indy stuff I've seen is PROGRESS Chapters 13 and 19, but both of those shows were on par, or better than 90% of indy shows I watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willows Way Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 I love Ricochet, but I hate the Prince Puma character. It was so stale, and boring. There was no character development throughout the season at all with the guy, no attire change, nothing. I can't believe I was rooting so hard for him to lose the belt to Mil. I really like Mil. I actually feel the opposite. This dude didnt say a single word but spoke just through his actions in the ring and you could just tell what he was feeling. Thats impressive. Agree on the attire though but then again alot of LU wrestlers wore the same shit lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushy. Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Nah. There were some yes, but the majority of wrestlers had different changes. Especially at Ultima Lucha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssaultDriver720 Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Seems like Jim Cornette invaded this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushy. Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Zombie Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 What? Having a non-positive opinion of the Young Bucks is pretty much a violation of the first unwritten rule of indy wrestling fandom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNFNS Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Dislike among The Young Bucks is more common than you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssaultDriver720 Posted August 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 What? Having a non-positive opinion of the Young Bucks is pretty much a violation of the first unwritten rule of indy wrestling fandom. Not really it isn't as annoying as Cornette bitches about them all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmVD Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 I don't know if this will be unpopular or not but TJ Perkins' character is the dryest I've seen on the indies. I find him more boring than all of the other wrestlers people find boring (Michael Elgin, Davey Richards, Roderick Strong, Lance Storm, etc.) He does a lot of fluid, quick technical wrestling that's impressive, but I just don't care when he does it. The only time I've been entertained by his character was his silent movie style promo before BOLA 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oresama Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 I've tried to get into Lucha Underground but for all the good stuff they put on, there's a lot of small things that built up are really off putting and take away from the company for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushy. Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 Like what? I can see what you mean. I love the show but I never watched it live and would sometimes wait a few days before I watched it. But like once the episode starts and you get invested, it sucks you in, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyriqz ✪ Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 I don't know if this will be unpopular or not but TJ Perkins' character is the dryest I've seen on the indies. I find him more boring than all of the other wrestlers people find boring (Michael Elgin, Davey Richards, Roderick Strong, Lance Storm, etc.) He does a lot of fluid, quick technical wrestling that's impressive, but I just don't care when he does it. The only time I've been entertained by his character was his silent movie style promo before BOLA 2012 Nah, *Censored* TJ Perkins, boring as *Censored*. Him and Elgin, driest *Censored*s on the globe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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