2 Legit Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 We noted yesterday that Triple H had the following to say about UFC at the Needham fireside chat earlier this week:"UFC is not really a competitor to us. I explain it to our talent. They are like boxing. It's completely different from what we are. We're like the movie Rocky. We're a story. We're a great story that just happens to take place in the wrestling ring. In a boxing match, you'll watch one time. You're not going to go back and watch it a bunch of times unless you're a connoisseur of boxing science. Rocky the movie? You'll watch over and over again. It's a triumph story. It's a love story. We create characters you gravitate to. That you connect with. Whether you hate them or love them. We put them in unique storylines with creative passions. We have good guys and bad guys. That's what makes the network successful. Who is going to go back and watch the Super Bowl from 1984? Who is going to go back and watch boxing from five years ago? Our product is evergreen."Stephanie McMahon, who participated in the chat as well, also shared her thoughts on UFC. Here's a transcript of what she said:"With UFC you can pay money to watch a PPV but it can be a terrible fight, right? The guy you're rooting for that UFC has been building gets knocked right off and suddenly that person doesn't really matter anymore. All that investment is lost. You never have that with WWE, we strategically build out Superstars and characters. We know when they are going to win, we know when they are going to lose. We build characters and make them megastars. It's all very intentional and you're guaranteed to get your money's worth. It might not necessarily be the outcome you wanted but you're guaranteed to have a great match, a great pay-per-view and you're guaranteed to get entertained." http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/Stephanie_Shares_Thoughts_on_UFC_Says_WWE_Fans_Are_Guaranteed_to_Get_Money_s_Worth.html Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 I understand were they're coming from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizo Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Very intelligent point of view from them. And I agree, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPC Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Good read. I agree with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 This has been obvious for years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushy. Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 I think they mean that they just do entertainment in a different way. They were there before UFC and they're just a different product, I'll respect that. I don't think I could ever be a fan of UFC, but i respect what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndertakerMinistry Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 This has been obvious for years now. True, but still, I agree with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirky Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Agree with everything. They are there to entertain and create those classic moments that'll be with us forever. Whereas UFC is there to provide people with the opportunity to see fighters beat the shit out of each other. Both are great, and both are at the top at what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 The guy you're rooting for that UFC has been building gets knocked right off and suddenly that person doesn't really matter anymore. All that investment is lost. You never have that with WWE... Yeah...I can't think of a single time that the guy I wanted to win in the WWE is "knocked right off" and "doesn't really matter anymore". Not a single time at all. That never happens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 The guy you're rooting for that UFC has been building gets knocked right off and suddenly that person doesn't really matter anymore. All that investment is lost. You never have that with WWE... Yeah...I can't think of a single time that the guy I wanted to win in the WWE is "knocked right off" and "doesn't really matter anymore". Not a single time at all. That never happens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E#37 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Can't really fault anything in that entire statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerichoholic Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 There are some good points made on why they're not competition, although I disagree with some of this. As a martial artist myself, I like going back to watch older fights once in a while. I also find Stephanie's last comments funny. The fact that this is wrestling and the outcomes are determined means we SHOULD be guaranteed our money's worth, great matches and a great pay-per-view, however that is not always the case. How many disappointing pay-per-views have there been just this year alone? Fans are now chanting "We want refunds". It also appears that the pay-per-views in general have worse matches than what we get on Raw, NXT, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarGreymon77 Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 I miss kayfabe, though. I legit hated the nWo because I thought it was real. It was that much more exciting when a babyface got the upper hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 I miss kayfabe, though. I legit hated the nWo because I thought it was real. It was that much more exciting when a babyface got the upper hand. That's not the fault of the WWE though...that's just a sign of the times. You can't maintain a serious level of kaybfabe with the internet in existence. People no longer put themselves in the mindset to suspend their disbelief. Everyone wants to know how everything is done and what is real and what isn't. I do agree that they could try harder though...(especially Stephanie, who sucks at storytelling). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classiq. Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Good read. Nice to know where they're coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy. Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Agreed with them. It's an apples to oranges comparison. It's scripted professional wrestling vs. real MMA. Both are great in their own way and being better simply boils down to preference. No point of comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Semi-related: I wonder if WWE will ever try to branch out and do their own MMA league. Not entirely out of the realm of possibility, IMO. They already tried [American] football (which is a much larger stretch from wrestling than MMA is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sXeLeonardo Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Very classy words from Hunter, comparing WWE to Rocky is a perfect example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vapor Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 Agreed totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion™ Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 That's how I've always felt about UFC a main event can be awful or just end in 8 seconds. In wrestling you're guaranteed a long match that should be entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunchbox Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Steph got a point, but, WWE PPV's have been pretty bad lately and UFC is also showing tons of free events on Fox, Fox Sports 1 and FX. Hell the prelims are usually free on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V to I Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 The guy you're rooting for that UFC has been building gets knocked right off and suddenly that person doesn't really matter anymore. All that investment is lost. You never have that with WWE. Um... this happens all the time in the WWE. Fans get behind a guy, WWE puts in minimal effort, then shuffle the guy back down to obscurity where they wanted them in the first place. It's happened with Cesaro and Ziggler most recently. Anyway, properly booked, pro wrestling has some advantages over the UFC (and vice versa). I don't consider the shows properly booked, unfortunately. One thing WWE only occasionally gets right is building to a match with a big-fight feel, a recent example being Brock/Cena. UFC manages that far more often, though it's easier for them considering the fighters can't fight every week. And those are some strong guarantees they make. I wouldn't feel like I got my money's worth from either Wrestlemania encounter between Sheamus and Daniel Bryan, for instance. I've seen plenty of bad PPVs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion™ Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Steph got a point, but, WWE PPV's have been pretty bad lately and UFC is also showing tons of free events on Fox, Fox Sports 1 and FX. Hell the prelims are usually free on TV. Yeah but in WWE you can get everything ever for 9.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 Everybody I have went for takes a big ass L every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muur Posted August 9, 2014 Report Share Posted August 9, 2014 "The guy you're rooting for that UFC has been building gets knocked right off and suddenly that person doesn't really matter anymore. All that investment is lost. You never have that with WWE, we strategically build out Superstars and characters." He high? Was a good read and good point though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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