am I the only one who doesn't really want to see 2K

[lilsting10]

try to reinvent the wheel with a new engine or graphics style? I mean CAWs already look inferior standing next to their in-game counterparts as it is.

 

I'm mostly happy with the in-game stuff so long as it doesn't have some horrendously wrong with it like WWE13 and it's overuse of OMG moments. I'd like to see certain AI modifiers like irish whip less/often, taunt less/often, diving moves less/often, reverse less/often and other things like that to improve the flow of matches.

 

Overall I'd simply like to see 2K do the following instead of try to go back to the drawing board: Less restrictions/glitches, and more improvements to existing modes.

 

Match types returned:

- championship scrabble, triple threat tag ladder, buried alive, 5 man battle royal, 8 man battle royal etc.

 

New match types:

- war games, 4v4 survivor series, 5v5 survivor series, 6Pack Challenge

 

New/Returned moves:

- (Saturn's Death Valley Driver, Ken Shamrock's Ankle Lock, Rear Naked Choke, Jamie Knoble's Trailerhitch, Marcus Cor Von's The Pounce and Russian Armbar & Knees.)

 

Create A Logo Improvements:

- More custom logo slots, at least 50 if not 100.

- Use the same color boxes as CAW Mode so that we can have a dark red without it being washed-out in saturation, etc.

 

Create A Title Belt Improvements:

- More Real title belts to edit (such as WCW TV, Other AWA titles etc.) Being able to edit every color on a belt so that on the WWE IC would be able to edit both the faceplate color and the blue sea on the globe into a different color.

- More Custom created title belt template shapes. Being able to choose the side-plates separately from the main faceplate. - Being able to share your belts on CC. Being able to defend your belts in online matches.

 

Create A Move Improvements:

- Being able to create submission moves.

- Being able to place created moves anywhere in your moveset.

 

Universe Mode Improvements:

- Being able to pick your own character to represent your brand's referee, GM and Owner characters instead of having to see Charles Robinson, Johnny Ace and Vince McMahon in your created/other company's universe.

- Being able to set match lengths and match creator options for all matches before entering the show, and have them remembered/saved accordingly.

- Be able to use custom logos for show/ppv logos and edit matches without hard lockups/freezing.

- Be able to set any title to male/womens, so that if you have an all women's universe brand, you can use more than just the default divas' title slot, you can have women's tag, main and minor titlebelts too.

 

Create An Arena Improvements:

- More stage templates.

- More custom nameplates.

- Fix the custom logo resize glitch/restriction which happened in WWE2K14.

- Make the 'walls' not show titantrons during entrances, and always show whatever logo you put there (as though they are simple banners instead).

 

Create An Entrance:

- New Pyros.

- Return the 'country flag' minitrons from WWE13 (UK, Canadian etc.)

 

Menus/Misc:

- On CC let us search by re-uploadable and non-re-uploadable.

- In Options split the Ring Announcer audio away from the Commentary audio. And split the crowd audio away from the sound fx audio.

- Make the jukebox work with custom themes properly without causing other audio glitches.

- Set-up title matches inside of the match set-up screen instead of having a separate 'title match' section of matches.

- For alternate attires on in-game wrestlers, let us see what they are (WWE2K14 just has one cutout for BigShow Retro, withou showing us what he looked-like at the different WM's he has for alt attires. Very annoying).

 

Create A Wrestler Improvements:

- Kill-off the points system.

- Kill-off the layers system to re-enable: Hair over masks again, Facepaints over masks again, Mask designs over facepaints again.

- Being able to re-color each color on an item again (such as facepaint).

- Being able to re-color items properly (white should be white, not the default color the piece uses).

- Put logos on sleeves again.

- More hair and facial hair styles are badly needed.

- Remove the crotch/boob blur, or at least give-us more types of tops and bottoms for women (being able to use all the ''male'' bottoms would be a start).

[NickRedMachine]

A lot of people frown upon the current engine. It doesn't work for me either. The AI still barely does anything, it looks bad, and it's full of glitches. We need something totally new. But thats just my opinion.

[Chazzle.]

The engine is too old and shows it's age. Most glitches are from all the code that's been added on top over the years since SmackDown 1 or even before that so a new engine is needed. The graphics need a boost too. Especially with going on to PS4 and XBOne now. Compared to pretty much all yearly games, the WWE games are far behind in the graphical department.

 

New engine and graphics update will make the games feel more fresh and most will be more interested in it because it doesn't feel like the same game we've been getting for years now.

 

All your improvements can be done as well as a new engine and graphics update so why not have both?

[Stoned Clown]

It would be nice for once to have the game come out without a list of bugs after its first few days

[Alex_Kincaid]

I buy the games every year and enjoy them, so I'm not going to act as though I wouldn't like gameplay to stay basically the same. But there's problems stacked on problems at this point. They often add new features and break them the next year. 12 had fantastic weapon physics, for example, that they've never had working right since. An overhaul is needed, but I dread the first few years after it where a bunch of the CAW stuff is brought down to a very basic level while they work out a new engine. If you look at other wrestling games compared to the WWE series, it's amazing how in depth the CAW is.

[Crack.]

The gameplay has grown stale and so have the cartoony graphics.

[-Mason-]

If TNA Impact 2008 could look that beautiful on the PS3 imagine what 2K15 could look like on the PS4 if they put some needed focus on the graphics

[lilsting10]

I am, of course, working with the assumption that a new gameplay engine/graphics upgrade would automatically take all the other modes back to square one. How likely is that to be what happens, or would 2K be able to do that without screwing with the other modes?

[Original IT Factor]

Everything gameplay wise could really do with looking a lot smoother and more refined. I'd say an overhaul is needed as there is still some old reversal animations in there and when you think where we are in terms of gaming currently, I think it does need an overhaul.

try to reinvent the wheel with a new engine or graphics style? I mean CAWs already look inferior standing next to their in-game counterparts as it is.

I'm mostly happy with the in-game stuff so long as it doesn't have some horrendously wrong with it like WWE13 and it's overuse of OMG moments. I'd like to see certain AI modifiers like irish whip less/often, taunt less/often, diving moves less/often, reverse less/often and other things like that to improve the flow of matches.

Overall I'd simply like to see 2K do the following instead of try to go back to the drawing board: Less restrictions/glitches, and more improvements to existing modes.

Match types returned:
- championship scrabble, triple threat tag ladder, buried alive, 5 man battle royal, 8 man battle royal etc.

New match types:
- war games, 4v4 survivor series, 5v5 survivor series, 6Pack Challenge

New/Returned moves:
- (Saturn's Death Valley Driver, Ken Shamrock's Ankle Lock, Rear Naked Choke, Jamie Knoble's Trailerhitch, Marcus Cor Von's The Pounce and Russian Armbar & Knees.)

Create A Logo Improvements:
- More custom logo slots, at least 50 if not 100.
- Use the same color boxes as CAW Mode so that we can have a dark red without it being washed-out in saturation, etc.

Create A Title Belt Improvements:
- More Real title belts to edit (such as WCW TV, Other AWA titles etc.) Being able to edit every color on a belt so that on the WWE IC would be able to edit both the faceplate color and the blue sea on the globe into a different color.
- More Custom created title belt template shapes. Being able to choose the side-plates separately from the main faceplate. - Being able to share your belts on CC. Being able to defend your belts in online matches.

Create A Move Improvements:
- Being able to create submission moves.
- Being able to place created moves anywhere in your moveset.

Universe Mode Improvements:
- Being able to pick your own character to represent your brand's referee, GM and Owner characters instead of having to see Charles Robinson, Johnny Ace and Vince McMahon in your created/other company's universe.
- Being able to set match lengths and match creator options for all matches before entering the show, and have them remembered/saved accordingly.
- Be able to use custom logos for show/ppv logos and edit matches without hard lockups/freezing.
- Be able to set any title to male/womens, so that if you have an all women's universe brand, you can use more than just the default divas' title slot, you can have women's tag, main and minor titlebelts too.

Create An Arena Improvements:
- More stage templates.
- More custom nameplates.
- Fix the custom logo resize glitch/restriction which happened in WWE2K14.
- Make the 'walls' not show titantrons during entrances, and always show whatever logo you put there (as though they are simple banners instead).

Create An Entrance:
- New Pyros.
- Return the 'country flag' minitrons from WWE13 (UK, Canadian etc.)

Menus/Misc:
- On CC let us search by re-uploadable and non-re-uploadable.
- In Options split the Ring Announcer audio away from the Commentary audio. And split the crowd audio away from the sound fx audio.
- Make the jukebox work with custom themes properly without causing other audio glitches.
- Set-up title matches inside of the match set-up screen instead of having a separate 'title match' section of matches.
- For alternate attires on in-game wrestlers, let us see what they are (WWE2K14 just has one cutout for BigShow Retro, withou showing us what he looked-like at the different WM's he has for alt attires. Very annoying).

Create A Wrestler Improvements:
- Kill-off the points system.
- Kill-off the layers system to re-enable: Hair over masks again, Facepaints over masks again, Mask designs over facepaints again.
- Being able to re-color each color on an item again (such as facepaint).
- Being able to re-color items properly (white should be white, not the default color the piece uses).
- Put logos on sleeves again.
- More hair and facial hair styles are badly needed.
- Remove the crotch/boob blur, or at least give-us more types of tops and bottoms for women (being able to use all the ''male'' bottoms would be a start).

Championship Scramble is still in.

[lilsting10]

Championship Scrabble is still in 2k14? Please tell me where, it's no longer in the Specialty match section on my copy of the game.

[Dangerous Dancing Dan]

If TNA Impact 2008 could look that beautiful on the PS3 imagine what 2K15 could look like on the PS4 if they put some needed focus on the graphics

 

I Agreed with you on TNA Impact gameplay is awful but the graphics were the King of graphics when it came to Wrestling game's graphics.

 

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc0bl5SqQF1qlhou3o1_500.png

[Mr.Dreadful]

current engine doesn't bother me. i'd rather they improve caw mode and add the other little things to the other creation modes.

 

and the Scramble match is NOT in 2K14.

[Original IT Factor]

current engine doesn't bother me. i'd rather they improve caw mode and add the other little things to the other creation modes.

 

and the Scramble match is NOT in 2K14.

Really? Didn't even know they took it out...

[Crack.]

The scramble match in the game was so shit, but they should've fixed it instead of removing it

[Mango kid]

honesty i dont no a way to fix scrabble in the game it pretty much a broken game match no matter what they can do

[CROSS-Out]

People need to understand that we can get a new engine and still keep the stuff we love. Its not like a new engine means the game will be like none of the previous games.

 

Look at Dark Souls 2. It has its own new engine, yet not only does it play the same (better, in some peoples opinions) as Dark Souls 1, but it FIXED a shitload of issues AND added new stuff without a problem.

 

An engine can be designed to resemble the previous one, while still fixing the problems and can be made modular so previous coding for features can be fitted to work with it. YES, it will take some effort, but you know what? That's exactly what the games need. there has been absolutely no bloody effort put in to the WWE games for so long its heartbreaking as a fan of the games for years.

 

I hate seeing potential squandered, and it has been squandered to hell and back in the last 5 or so years. More, in some peoples opinions.

[MR.J]

Id love a new engine but fearful of 3 things.

 

1) A complicated unfriendly and limited caw mode. (If 2k really does frown on the pt uploads they may be removed just like create a tron although reason that went out may have been different.)

 

2) Less features cos of the crossover think wwe 12. I also realise a previous new engine was in the works but who's to say 2K didn't want it / like it and started their own only for it to be just finished in time for November with limited features.

 

3) custom music gone due to ps4 not having mp3s they may just remove it. Or just keep it for Xbox one like MGS ground zeroes did.

 

 

Hope I'm wrong but these are my concerns I certainly hope they are laid to rest.

[Illgamesh]

I feel like a lot of Smackdown series fans have this weird Stockholm syndrome where because of the love of CAW making, the shortcomings of the series is seen as okay and excuses are made. I until this very year WWE games still have code that was written for PS2 Era. That is unacceptable. I'm willing to risk losing things in creation suite if at its core creation suite is a better and more intuitive tool for creating. To do that you simply must throw out the 10 year old art assets and start completely fresh. I don't want to see one thing from older games with 2K15. Why we okay with another 5 to 7 years of mediocrity? The graphics in WWE games are laughable compared to other yearly releases that require more to put together.

 

Man..... It's time...

[maskedmaniac]

Why would we want yet another version of the same game we've been getting the last 5 years? I'd rather they start over and at least give us something really new, even if initially we lost a handful of features. I don't really think they will scrap everything though. CAW mode is a huge deal so I'm pretty sure they will keep that feature almost as strong as it already is.

[Illgamesh]

I would never want them to scrap CAW mode, but I'd loooooove it if there were no parts that have been used in previous games.

 

It's ancient, low res, junk art at this point. Throw it out.

[M3J]

2K has to reinvent the entire game, otherwise there's no reason for some people to buy it.

 

The amazing graphics is so much possible, just look at PS2 and look at NBA 2K14 for PS4. Great graphics and excellent faces. The face models could be so much better, it devolved from looking so much like their real life counterparts to looking like blobs.

 

Then there's the issue of lagging, especially when you have more than four men out there, though it doesn't always happen. NBA has about ten players out without lagging, although the WWE wrestlers probably have more data.

 

And then there are bugs. The other day, I tried to do a prone body attack on the outside of the ring, which was Ultimate Warrior splash. Rather than replace the attack with an elbow drop or just have me splash, the game had me running towards the barricade, and I wasn't able to stop. Had to restart the match. Stuff like this need to be fixed.

[Monte73]

I don't really care for the graphics, I just want improve gameplay. I have never seen a game with so many exploits. I mean the biggest exploit I seen this year, (and past years) are the submissions. Anyone can make someone tap just as long as their body is red. I can make Rey Mysterio make The Undertaker tap to a chin lock.

[projektk]

I would love for them to just start from scratch with the creation suite in mind. Sure the first game would be limited but over time it would be better. As long as they keep yikes as the developer I don't see the game looking as good as the NBA franchise anytime soon. However if they started from scratch I believe it would happen quicker. I feel 2k will keep yikes for their entire contract but if it gets renewed they'll probably take the entire game into their own hands. I know Yule's has been working on the next gen engine since THQ still had the license so I am willing to see how hard of at all really it is. Of its a minor boost I say forget it and move on from yukes.

Damn auto correct. Yukes. Added to my phone. Lol either way I'll buy their ps4 game so I can use my ps4 more often.

[lilsting10]

Here's the thing...

The WWE CAW Mode (and all the other creation modes) are really unlike any other create modes. Other create modes may have better-looking caws, but they always seem to be more limited, either in ability to do things or clothing choice. They aren't built with the depth in mind to how we make wrestlers, with layers and stuff. Usually it's just pick from what we give you, and like it. We are used to working with layers, designs, facepaints, logos, transparencies and being able to change/manipulate almost all of those as we see fit. I just don't seem a new gameplay engine, let alone a visual revamp which focuses on graphics doing this - let alone create a special move, belt, arena, story etc.

Case in point: TNA Impact's textures or whatever they used may look great, even today, but it's CAW mode was COMPLETE SHIT and very limited.

[Moondog]

The scramble match in the game was so shit, but they should've fixed it instead of removing it

 

it wasn't shit with friends on local multiplayer, with the match setting on quick. this made it like the good old hardcore time limit title matches from Smackdown 2.