sdd619 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 I don't think they have improved it or removed it. Its just as it is... "There" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalKissesProduction™ Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 So if wrestlers don't change their look they shouldn't be improved upon? What exactly is there to improve if nothing has changed, though in Christians case I wish they redid the Killswitch; damn maneuvers to fast with no struggle and Christian basically magically appears behind them to set it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockstar™ Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Models made 3 years ago probably could do with being updated or reworked. Keeping the same model year in and year out makes the model become very stale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M3J Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 BUT THEY DON'T IMPROVE IT AT ALL. IF THEY DON'T IMPROVE IT, THEN IT SHOULD BE REMOVED. If they do go for improving it, and it actually is better, then I'm all for keeping it. They haven't improved the commentary so should they remove that? They haven't improved Christians model, should they remove that? Dude come on. They also have made the wrestlers' faces even less like their real counterpart. Faces should be removed too. But there's a difference between the commentary (they barely pay attention to it or Christian, apparently) and CAF. I assume there's more work required for CAF, but all I want is for CAF to be better as a mode and as finishers. Has anyone ever kicked out of package piledriver? And who the hell would kick out of a Canadian Destroyer from the top rope or Pepsi Plunge, even on the first pin? If CAF being removed = better CAW mode and Universe mode, I'm all for it. If they actually improve or bother to improve CAF, then I'm all for that too. Would anyone care if Christian was removed? Apart from you and Spearson, of course. <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickelodeon Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 I don't think it's gone. It's just the same as always, nothing new. I wish they would give us a ground finisher or breaking point finisher, but maybe next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Flying Maniac Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 So if wrestlers don't change their look they shouldn't be improved upon? What exactly is there to improve if nothing has changed, though in Christians case I wish they redid the Killswitch; damn maneuvers to fast with no struggle and Christian basically magically appears behind them to set it up. I think they could do a bit better on his face and they could raise his tights higher up his waist imo. And also what you said about the Killswitch. BUT THEY DON'T IMPROVE IT AT ALL. IF THEY DON'T IMPROVE IT, THEN IT SHOULD BE REMOVED. If they do go for improving it, and it actually is better, then I'm all for keeping it. They haven't improved the commentary so should they remove that? They haven't improved Christians model, should they remove that? Dude come on. They also have made the wrestlers' faces even less like their real counterpart. Faces should be removed too. But there's a difference between the commentary (they barely pay attention to it or Christian, apparently) and CAF. I assume there's more work required for CAF, but all I want is for CAF to be better as a mode and as finishers. Has anyone ever kicked out of package piledriver? And who the hell would kick out of a Canadian Destroyer from the top rope or Pepsi Plunge, even on the first pin? If CAF being removed = better CAW mode and Universe mode, I'm all for it. If they actually improve or bother to improve CAF, then I'm all for that too. Would anyone care if Christian was removed? Apart from you and Spearson, of course. <_< I'd be okay if removing CAF meant better quality in other modes but I don't think it staying the same is taking away their attention really. And yeah, the need to fix the damage created finishers do to the opponent which I think will happen since the damage has been increased for regular finisher (mentioned in the livestream). And I'd be very upset if Christian were removed from the game. Somewhat of a fan of his and he's rather important in my universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Why remove it? You couldnt make a razors edge without it in past games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thee Drew Galloway Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Models made 3 years ago probably could do with being updated or reworked. Keeping the same model year in and year out makes the model become very stale. No Christian has become stale not his in-game model. You make no sense, how can you change his in-game model if he has not changed anything in real life in the past 3 years(besides adding a spear and frog splash). Nothing can be changed if there is nothing to be changed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theclosetfan Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Take it out. It's so terrible. The CAF's look so bad, particularly the aerial ones. One less thing to spend budget on to implement and bug test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Why take CAF out. It has moves not in finishers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockstar™ Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Models made 3 years ago probably could do with being updated or reworked. Keeping the same model year in and year out makes the model become very stale. No Christian has become stale not his in-game model. You make no sense, how can you change his in-game model if he has not changed anything in real life in the past 3 years(besides adding a spear and frog splash). Nothing can be changed if there is nothing to be changed .Models can get better, clearer more accurate to a real life representation. Do you really think models are only based on IF superstars change their look? HHH hasn't changed much throughout the years but he's had new models over the years, there's more examples. Models can always be improved. FFS it doesn't matter if they don't change their look. Christian's model is 3 years old, you might accept mediocrity but others shouldn't have to. Christians morphing as well is pretty poor. Do you think Austin's model is fine because it hasn't changed at all? Lmao. It has nothing to do with the real life changes, it's the quality of the representation. Christians model can be improved and It's in need of an overhaul, the same can be said about Austin's model. It's not about change, it's about improvement and quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROSS-Out Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 I give up on some people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalKissesProduction™ Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Yet, in WWE Smackdown Vs Raw 2010 - WWE'13 nobody was Bitching about Christians In-Game Model; you people are reaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWF WrestleFest Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 The mode is FAR from perfect, but it shouldn't be removed. I already know if Mr. Perfect and Rick Rude aren't in the game, I'm going to want to create the Perfect Plex and the Rude Awakening to give their CAWs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M3J Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 The mode is FAR from perfect, but it shouldn't be removed. I already know if Mr. Perfect and Rick Rude aren't in the game, I'm going to want to create the Perfect Plex and the Rude Awakening to give their CAWs. Those moves are already in the game.... Steve Austin model is one of the worst. or was, whichever. It's like they made him into a generic bald white and slapped a goatee on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crack. Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 I remember back when Undertaker's next gen model made it's debut in SVR 2007, and we had the same model years after. Undertaker doesn't have any damn blonde in front of his hair on TV irl in 2007 to 2012. They finally update his model like 7 years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thee Drew Galloway Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Models made 3 years ago probably could do with being updated or reworked. Keeping the same model year in and year out makes the model become very stale.No Christian has become stale not his in-game model. You make no sense, how can you change his in-game model if he has not changed anything in real life in the past 3 years(besides adding a spear and frog splash). Nothing can be changed if there is nothing to be changed .Models can get better, clearer more accurate to a real life representation. Do you really think models are only based on IF superstars change their look? HHH hasn't changed much throughout the years but he's had new models over the years, there's more examples. Models can always be improved. FFS it doesn't matter if they don't change their look. Christian's model is 3 years old, you might accept mediocrity but others shouldn't have to. Christians morphing as well is pretty poor. Do you think Austin's model is fine because it hasn't changed at all? Lmao. It has nothing to do with the real life changes, it's the quality of the representation. Christians model can be improved and It's in need of an overhaul, the same can be said about Austin's model. It's not about change, it's about improvement and quality. Ok in that case Christians model is fine it doesn't need changing, it looks as accurate as it is going to get right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WWF WrestleFest Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 The mode is FAR from perfect, but it shouldn't be removed. I already know if Mr. Perfect and Rick Rude aren't in the game, I'm going to want to create the Perfect Plex and the Rude Awakening to give their CAWs. Those moves are already in the game.... Steve Austin model is one of the worst. or was, whichever. It's like they made him into a generic bald white and slapped a goatee on him. I know, and it's just my OCD, but I like the finish move on the character select screen to read the actual name, so "Perfect Plex" instead of "Fisherman Suplex 3" or whatever. Plus, who knows, they might takes those moves out since every year more and more moves are removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalKissesProduction™ Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 The mode is FAR from perfect, but it shouldn't be removed. I already know if Mr. Perfect and Rick Rude aren't in the game, I'm going to want to create the Perfect Plex and the Rude Awakening to give their CAWs. Those moves are already in the game.... Steve Austin model is one of the worst. or was, whichever. It's like they made him into a generic bald white and slapped a goatee on him. I know, and it's just my OCD, but I like the finish move on the character select screen to read the actual name, so "Perfect Plex" instead of "Fisherman Suplex 3" or whatever. Plus, who knows, they might takes those moves out since every year more and more moves are removed. No maneuvers have been removed over the past few years to my knowledge, unless they where tied into the Rope Mechanics which where redone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M3J Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 The mode is FAR from perfect, but it shouldn't be removed. I already know if Mr. Perfect and Rick Rude aren't in the game, I'm going to want to create the Perfect Plex and the Rude Awakening to give their CAWs. Those moves are already in the game.... Steve Austin model is one of the worst. or was, whichever. It's like they made him into a generic bald white and slapped a goatee on him. I know, and it's just my OCD, but I like the finish move on the character select screen to read the actual name, so "Perfect Plex" instead of "Fisherman Suplex 3" or whatever. Plus, who knows, they might takes those moves out since every year more and more moves are removed. Oh, I see. But the way CAF are done takes away realism since you have to really damage your opponent if you want your first CAF to get you the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathByChainsaw Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Choppy and ill-constructed as it may be, I would hate not having CAF in there. I have too many guys who use them, and I like the idea, if not the implementation. They just have to figure out how to make it flow more naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-man89 Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 The biggest problem i always had with CAF was the moves was weak as hell in terms of doing damage to your opponent, you'd have to hit it at least 3 times before you'll get a pin. And yeah the animations was choppy as hell and didn't look natural at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidalKissesProduction™ Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 I wish they wouldn't let us do "Combo Finishers" like this is Street Fighter or something like that, One Single Strike or One Single Taunt and One Hold; No Addition Bull . I'm tired of "Two-Handed Chokeslam Clutch 01 - Two-Handed Chokeslam Clutch & Choke - *Seven Spots Later* - Backbreaker Clutch 03 - Backbreaker Impact" Specially when Tools spam the Slow Motion; this can basically be done with every single hold it's bull because you NEVER see it like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evofit Posted October 4, 2013 Report Share Posted October 4, 2013 Did like this feature, but only used it for a couple of moves. So no bigger 4 me if its gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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