Nemesis Nosferatu Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 The dog from Duck Hunt is in this game?!?! AWESOME!!! ... Well time to buy a Wii! It will feel good to get back into this series as I haven't played Smash Bros since the first game. I played Melee once at somebody's house back in the day, but only for a short while. ... Finally, I can get my sweet revenge on that little bastard who has laughed at me after all those years ago! Link to comment
CarDaddyPlease Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) I've spent the past 4 or 5 For Glory matches losing because of lag and I'm so *censored*ing done I just SD and leave if there's noticeable lag. Not worth my time playing on a connection like that, I pay for good internet for a reason. I usually make the game back in the next one anyways PS. Whats your DS tag? I've run into a ton of ZSS's on For Glory Edited October 10, 2014 by SevenYearItch Link to comment
LastMinuteLapras Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 BTW guys, apparently, you can check to see if a match will lag or not by choosing ZSS on the character select screen. If there is a "white flash" or something like that when you change attires, its almost guaranteed that the match will lag. I haven't tested this, but a bunch of guys confirmed it on Reddit. Unfortunately, by older brother didn't have internet at his place yesterday (I went to watch his kids), so I had to play against CPU. That did help me to pick up Dr. Mario and Charizard though. Ha, I find it funny that whatever character I try to go in and main doesn't work out (I wanted to main either Rosalina, Game & Watch, or Lucario. None were my style). Wanted to make MegaMan my 2nd in command, Charizard is just too awesome though! I agree! I'm actually amazed at how great Charizard is. When I first played him, I thought that he was better than before, but he still sucked. Now I see he is a beast! Link to comment
limitbreak Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 BTW guys, apparently, you can check to see if a match will lag or not by choosing ZSS on the character select screen. If there is a "white flash" or something like that when you change attires, its almost guaranteed that the match will lag. I haven't tested this, but a bunch of guys confirmed it on Reddit. Well that's convenient. I'll give that a shot. Link to comment
LastMinuteLapras Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) I think its time to try my Charizard and Doc in For Glory. EDIT: Wow, my first match, and it locks me in the room where I wait for my opponent. Couldn't press start and quit, nothing. I hope that doesn't count as a disconnect. Cool, it didn't. Edited October 10, 2014 by Garry Moore™ Link to comment
God of Lightning Posted October 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 I like Rosalina's style, but it's a pain to figure out. I'll still use her; just not as much as I intended to. Oh and the Miis have terrible recovery. Link to comment
limitbreak Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Just got in a crazy competitive game with a Sheik user. Lost with 5 seconds left. I'm still shaking from it Link to comment
LastMinuteLapras Posted October 11, 2014 Report Share Posted October 11, 2014 (edited) This lag is ruining my win rate in For Glory. I've had a great connection with most people until yesterday. What happened? I've had my win rate drop to 78.78% when it was like 80.4%. These people need to get better connections or get to playing for fun. Edited October 11, 2014 by Garry Moore™ Link to comment
limitbreak Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 I'm sitting at 65% right now because I find myself getting put with extremely powerful players. I wish I had your win percentage. I've decided that, after falling in love with playing as him in For Glory, Dark Pit is gonna replace Dr. Mario in my main 3. I find myself changing my mind a lot with this game, haha. Link to comment
Ghost. Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Has anyone else started to run into alot of Ike players? Over the past two days especially and most of them are just spamming his Side-B. It's so easilly punishable. Link to comment
LastMinuteLapras Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Has anyone else started to run into alot of Ike players? Over the past two days especially and most of them are just spamming his Side-B. It's so easilly punishable. I haven't. I've found a bunch of ZSS and Shiek lately though. Link to comment
Monte73 Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 I don't know if you guys tried him but, Donkey Kong is probably my favorite in this game along with Charizard. DK, being my main since N64, it's really great to see how much he improved since then. Link to comment
LastMinuteLapras Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 I think I'll be dropping Dr. Mario for Game & Watch. While I'm a fan of the Doc, his recovery is just too horrid. Perhaps once others find new tricks with him, I'll bring him back, but for now, see ya Doc. I do have to admit though, it is fun to run off the stage with Dr. Mario and Up-B into a person coming back to the edge, bouncing them against the underside and killing them. Link to comment
limitbreak Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Alright, seriously. Dark Pit is a *censored*ing beast. I'm seriously considering making him my second in command instead of Greninja. Nobody's gonna replace Zero Suit as my number one though. Link to comment
LastMinuteLapras Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) Brought my win rate back to 80.12%. I'm finally learning Jigglypuff again. Didn't realize that carrying folks could be done so efficiently with f-air instead of b-air. Edited October 13, 2014 by Garry Moore™ Link to comment
God of Lightning Posted October 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 So I just discovered that Baby Vegeta's in the game. Now I have to use him. Link to comment
LastMinuteLapras Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I don't get why people are saying Dr. Mario is inferior to Mario. He isn't inferior, he just plays differently now. He is an amazing character, now that I've played him and compared him to Mario. I'm actually maintaining my win rate with him, so I'm satisfied. Been whopping ZSSs, Sonics, Falcons, and Diddys among others with him. Link to comment
Ghost. Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Probably a stupid question, but other than his look what are the differences between Mario and Dr Mario. I havent tried either in depth. Edited October 14, 2014 by Ghost. Link to comment
LastMinuteLapras Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Dr Mario's aerials, Smashes, tilts, Up-B, and his Back-Throw (dunno why) are stronger than Mario's versions (this only accounts for identical moves, not the switches like Mario's tornado to spin kicks for Doc's D-air). Apart from the others, Doc's Up-B is now a kill move if hit on the first frame (much like Luigi's but easier to hit and not as strong). While Mario's F-Air spikes, Dr. Mario's does not, however, it is 2% stronger when hit correctly. Of course, Dr. Mario has the Mario Tornado as his D-Special, making his D-air spin kicks mentioned earlier. The Tornado has priority over many moves, such as Ganondorf's Side-B among others, and is also a kill move if you land the last hit. Using the Tornado in the air on someone with a high-ish percentage will guarantee a kill, much like ZSS using her Up-B on others. Dr. Mario does not jump as high as Mario. Dr. Mario cannot jump as high as Ganondorf can when performing a full jump. This is bad for recovery, but good for approaching as his short hops allow him to use almost any aerial move out of a short hop. If your opponent continues to vector towards you and they are of mid-weight or higher, you can do shorthop backflips and hit multiple B-airs which do 13-14% each if hit correctly. Finally, his taunts are quicker than Mario's (Dr. Mario doesn't have a taunt nearly as long as Mario's "growing" taunt). ------ I love how the only matches I'm losing now are ones that lag to hell. Why couldn't Nintendo at least make the match-making system match you up with someone that is close to you? Edited October 14, 2014 by Garry Moore™ Link to comment
Ghost. Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Dr Mario's aerials, Smashes, tilts, Up-B, and his Back-Throw (dunno why) are stronger than Mario's versions (this only accounts for identical moves, not the switches like Mario's tornado to spin kicks for Doc's D-air). Apart from the others, Doc's Up-B is now a kill move if hit on the first frame (much like Luigi's but easier to hit and not as strong). While Mario's F-Air spikes, Dr. Mario's does not, however, it is 2% stronger when hit correctly. Of course, Dr. Mario has the Mario Tornado as his D-Special, making his D-air spin kicks mentioned earlier. The Tornado has priority over many moves, such as Ganondorf's Side-B among others, and is also a kill move if you land the last hit. Using the Tornado in the air on someone with a high-ish percentage will guarantee a kill, much like ZSS using her Up-B on others. Dr. Mario does not jump as high as Mario. Dr. Mario cannot jump as high as Ganondorf can when performing a full jump. This is bad for recovery, but good for approaching as his short hops allow him to use almost any aerial move out of a short hop. If your opponent continues to vector towards you and they are of mid-weight or higher, you can do shorthop backflips and hit multiple B-airs which do 13-14% each if hit correctly. Finally, his taunts are quicker than Mario's (Dr. Mario doesn't have a taunt nearly as long as Mario's "growing" taunt). ------ I love how the only matches I'm losing now are ones that lag to hell. Why couldn't Nintendo at least make the match-making system match you up with someone that is close to you? Thanks for in depth analysis (i never liked using Mario) but with the little differences Dr Mario has I may give him a shot. Link to comment
LastMinuteLapras Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 No prob. You should definitely give him a try. You can perform some sick stuff with his Tornado, like using it on someone trying to recover at the edge and bounce them up against the bottom to kill them. I met one guy that beat me down bad yesterday. Given I was playing as Dr. Mario instead of my main Yoshi, but still. I lost a couple percent on my win rate. I've gained one back. I've got another 27 wins to go before I have 80% again (given I don't lose again). Link to comment
Grenade. Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 No prob. You should definitely give him a try. You can perform some sick stuff with his Tornado, like using it on someone trying to recover at the edge and bounce them up against the bottom to kill them. Couldn't they just tech it? Link to comment
CarDaddyPlease Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 No prob. You should definitely give him a try. You can perform some sick stuff with his Tornado, like using it on someone trying to recover at the edge and bounce them up against the bottom to kill them. Couldn't they just tech it? They def can, but I promise you pretty much no one I've faced on the Smash Forums tech stage spikes. Takes them all by surprise for whatever reason. People in this smash seem completely bewildered at gimping recoveries. I'm not great at it with my Falcon so I rarely go, but when I do the person seems to panic and missed the ledge either way Link to comment
LastMinuteLapras Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 I don't know who my true second is now. It was Bowser Jr, but I think I've gotten better with Dr. Mario now. Bowser Jr can mix things up with projectiles galore and quick pursuits, but Dr Mario has so many different tools at his disposal, one being his Tornado which has priority over SO many things. Link to comment
limitbreak Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 I just got my first 0% 2-0 victory in For Glory and it feels so good. Link to comment
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