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Aaron Rodgers and Dennis Quaid are not happy with the ending either. And tbh, it'd probably have been much better if they added more time or episodes instead of rushing through.

1. Did you not read what was just said?

2. Who the hell are these people and why does it matter?

 

1. There are videos out. Didn't bother to listen to it though as I don't care.

2. Football player and actor, respectively. And because it does.

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So supposedly a lot of the actors hated how it ended

George R.R. Martin said that won't be the real ending

Don't fall for click-baity headlines and Buzzfeed articles.

I'm not actually talked about it on his blog

 

 

Lmao no he didn't.

 

He said "is that how the books end too? Yes and no. Yes and no. Yes and no. Yes and no.

 

That means a lot of these major events will happen, they will just get there involving different people, different paths and more fleshed

 

This dude austin in here trying to pretend that George been saying shit. No kid, not when your resident book sheriff Mr. Creep is here.

I still say it was a good ending.

 

Rushed for sure...but, the best possible outcome (given how things were already going).

 

Yes it was, I agree.

 

 

Dany was always going to die. A foreign woman was never going to sit the throne, she was always going to turn into her father by going insane. She kept calling Cersei the tyrant (which she was), but in the end their roles were reversed. Cersei was the vunerable woman scared for her child and Dany was the tyrant who didn't care if her people lived or died. Great role reversal

 

Jon was NEVER going to become king. At least not of the Iron Throne. King of the north again? Maybe, but he was never going to be Aegon/Jon Targaryen. I LOVED the fact that he was sent back to The Wall. It's full circle for Jon. He forswore being Jon Stark seasons ago and he was never going to accept being a Targaryen. He's spent all of his life forging his own identity and having to wrestle with the idea of being a bastard and suddenly he's not one? That's gotta be torture for him. Where was the one place he grew into his own man? In the night's watch. So that is where he ended up, in the place that accepted him for him. Not as King Jon or King Aegon. As Jon Snow.

 

The North getting independence and Sansa being crowned queen was cool. About time, she's spent the last few seasons proving that she has what it takes. Not that we'll see it, but I do expect some of the other lord paramount to declare their independence also. That might be the first test for King Bran. As for King Bran (The Broken), that was a left field choice. A good choice though. They explained pretty clearly why they chose him...he can literally see everything ever and with a good council behind him it could be a hugely prosperous reign. Everyone on that council deserves it also. Tyrion, Lord Commander Brienne, Grand Maester Sam, Master of Sips Davos...Bronn being Lord Paramount of the Reach is a bit of a stretch, but w/e,

 

As for Arya becoming an adventurer. I get it. It did seem a bit random, but you gotta think of her entire arc in the series. She has spent most of her time travelling around and a lot of that is aboard a ship. She has never felt right just sat in one place so an adventure is probably the best way to go.

 

 

People are so up in arms that things didn't happen the way they wanted it to happen, so much so that they jade themselves into thinking a lot of these endings weren't telegraphed.

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So supposedly a lot of the actors hated how it ended

George R.R. Martin said that won't be the real ending

Don't fall for click-baity headlines and Buzzfeed articles.
I'm not actually talked about it on his blog

Lmao no he didn't.

 

He said "is that how the books end too? Yes and no. Yes and no. Yes and no. Yes and no.

 

That means a lot of these major events will happen, they will just get there involving different people, different paths and more fleshed

 

This dude austin in here trying to pretend that George been saying shit. No kid, not when your resident book sheriff Mr. Creep is here.

I still say it was a good ending.

 

Rushed for sure...but, the best possible outcome (given how things were already going).

Yes it was, I agree.

 

 

Dany was always going to die. A foreign woman was never going to sit the throne, she was always going to turn into her father by going insane. She kept calling Cersei the tyrant (which she was), but in the end their roles were reversed. Cersei was the vunerable woman scared for her child and Dany was the tyrant who didn't care if her people lived or died. Great role reversal

 

Jon was NEVER going to become king. At least not of the Iron Throne. King of the north again? Maybe, but he was never going to be Aegon/Jon Targaryen. I LOVED the fact that he was sent back to The Wall. It's full circle for Jon. He forswore being Jon Stark seasons ago and he was never going to accept being a Targaryen. He's spent all of his life forging his own identity and having to wrestle with the idea of being a bastard and suddenly he's not one? That's gotta be torture for him. Where was the one place he grew into his own man? In the night's watch. So that is where he ended up, in the place that accepted him for him. Not as King Jon or King Aegon. As Jon Snow.

 

The North getting independence and Sansa being crowned queen was cool. About time, she's spent the last few seasons proving that she has what it takes. Not that we'll see it, but I do expect some of the other lord paramount to declare their independence also. That might be the first test for King Bran. As for King Bran (The Broken), that was a left field choice. A good choice though. They explained pretty clearly why they chose him...he can literally see everything ever and with a good council behind him it could be a hugely prosperous reign. Everyone on that council deserves it also. Tyrion, Lord Commander Brienne, Grand Maester Sam, Master of Sips Davos...Bronn being Lord Paramount of the Reach is a bit of a stretch, but w/e,

 

As for Arya becoming an adventurer. I get it. It did seem a bit random, but you gotta think of her entire arc in the series. She has spent most of her time travelling around and a lot of that is aboard a ship. She has never felt right just sat in one place so an adventure is probably the best way to go.

 

 

People are so up in arms that things didn't happen the way they wanted it to happen, so much so that they jade themselves into thinking a lot of these endings weren't telegraphed.

Says person who says people who react about the season you're overreacting this season with s*** and everyone knows it they were lazy did not care rushed they just want to finish the season and move on this season was nowhere near as good

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Not sure what that has to do with you making up things George RR Martin has said.

 

I never people had to like this season. Did I say this season was as good as it should have been? No I did not. Did I like it? Yes absolutely. Do I think people are overreacting because they didn't get what they want? I've spent time on reddit and on the ASOIAF forums. Yes people are overreacting.

 

Shut up austin, stop making shit up.

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Arya becoming an adventurer never really felt random. I didn't see it coming, but it was a logical conclusion for reasons Creep stated. Plus, she did refuse to settle with Gendry even after *censored*ing him.

 

Wonder if Dany turning evil and being killed was the important plot point that GRRM said would be in the books even if the show deviated immensely in its last season.

 

Sansa fully deserves being queen. I forgot if I said that already. Kinda odd Jon didn't let Drogon kill him, but I guess he's reckless, not suicidal.

 

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Arya becoming an adventurer never really felt random. I didn't see it coming, but it was a logical conclusion for reasons Creep stated. Plus, she did refuse to settle with Gendry even after *censored*ing him.

 

Wonder if Dany turning evil and being killed was the important plot point that GRRM said would be in the books even if the show deviated immensely in its last season.

 

Sansa fully deserves being queen. I forgot if I said that already. Kinda odd Jon didn't let Drogon kill him, but I guess he's reckless, not suicidal.

 

 

The Dany thing will definitely happen. It will be more in depth and more further scoped out, but it will happen. It will probably involve different people too.

 

I love that Arya became an adventurer, its just her destination thats my problem. No one has ever found land west of Westeros. The ocean is way too large. In the latest book (Fire and Blood) Elissa Farman discovered 3 islands south-west of Westeros and thats the farthest anyone has ever discovered land. So Arya is either going to die a few weeks after the show ended or she will have to turn around and come back. They should have had her go to Asshai or something.L

 

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It's not that Jon didn't let Drogon kill him, Drogon literally just didn't aim for Jon.

 

 

 

Yeah.

 

I haven't read every post in here...but, someone suggested that Jon avoided being burned? He covered his face and cringed away from the heat coming off the flames, but he never had to actually move from where he was standing.

 

Drogon aimed for the throne, and destroyed it to spite Jon.

 

I would assume that Drogon had formed some sort of bond with Jon over the time they'd spent together...so he was never trying to kill him. But at the same time, he was like "you killed my master, and I'm gonna *Censored* you over for it".

 

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It's not that Jon didn't let Drogon kill him, Drogon literally just didn't aim for Jon.

 

 

I know, what I meant to say was that Jon flinched/dodged the flamethrower, whether or not it'd hit him. Though I guess I should watch the episode again just to be sure I'm not forgetting. Actually thought Drogon would go after Jon and not the Throne.

 

 

 

 

Arya becoming an adventurer never really felt random. I didn't see it coming, but it was a logical conclusion for reasons Creep stated. Plus, she did refuse to settle with Gendry even after *censored*ing him.

 

Wonder if Dany turning evil and being killed was the important plot point that GRRM said would be in the books even if the show deviated immensely in its last season.

 

Sansa fully deserves being queen. I forgot if I said that already. Kinda odd Jon didn't let Drogon kill him, but I guess he's reckless, not suicidal.

 

 

The Dany thing will definitely happen. It will be more in depth and more further scoped out, but it will happen. It will probably involve different people too.

 

I love that Arya became an adventurer, its just her destination thats my problem. No one has ever found land west of Westeros. The ocean is way too large. In the latest book (Fire and Blood) Elissa Farman discovered 3 islands south-west of Westeros and thats the farthest anyone has ever discovered land. So Arya is either going to die a few weeks after the show ended or she will have to turn around and come back. They should have had her go to Asshai or something.L

 

 

That makes me wanna read the books now, especially now that I'll have Emilia's Dany to go off of. Few friends talked about the other Aegon and how him getting the support Dany wanted/wants will be part of what causes her to turn into a tyrant.

 

Ah I see. Didn't even know if there was a land to the west of Westeros, tbh. Maybe those three islands will help Arya by providing food to continue, at the very least.

 

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It's not that Jon didn't let Drogon kill him, Drogon literally just didn't aim for Jon.

 

 

I know, what I meant to say was that Jon flinched/dodged the flamethrower, whether or not it'd hit him. Though I guess I should watch the episode again just to be sure I'm not forgetting. Actually thought Drogon would go after Jon and not the Throne.

 

 

 

 

Arya becoming an adventurer never really felt random. I didn't see it coming, but it was a logical conclusion for reasons Creep stated. Plus, she did refuse to settle with Gendry even after *censored*ing him.

 

Wonder if Dany turning evil and being killed was the important plot point that GRRM said would be in the books even if the show deviated immensely in its last season.

 

Sansa fully deserves being queen. I forgot if I said that already. Kinda odd Jon didn't let Drogon kill him, but I guess he's reckless, not suicidal.

 

 

The Dany thing will definitely happen. It will be more in depth and more further scoped out, but it will happen. It will probably involve different people too.

 

I love that Arya became an adventurer, its just her destination thats my problem. No one has ever found land west of Westeros. The ocean is way too large. In the latest book (Fire and Blood) Elissa Farman discovered 3 islands south-west of Westeros and thats the farthest anyone has ever discovered land. So Arya is either going to die a few weeks after the show ended or she will have to turn around and come back. They should have had her go to Asshai or something.L

 

 

That makes me wanna read the books now, especially now that I'll have Emilia's Dany to go off of. Few friends talked about the other Aegon and how him getting the support Dany wanted/wants will be part of what causes her to turn into a tyrant.

 

Ah I see. Didn't even know if there was a land to the west of Westeros, tbh. Maybe those three islands will help Arya by providing food to continue, at the very least.

 

 

 

what a lot people don't realize is they also sent grey worm and the unsullied army to their deaths

 

https://screenrant.com/game-thrones-grey-worm-death-naath-books/

 

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It's not that Jon didn't let Drogon kill him, Drogon literally just didn't aim for Jon.

 

 

I know, what I meant to say was that Jon flinched/dodged the flamethrower, whether or not it'd hit him. Though I guess I should watch the episode again just to be sure I'm not forgetting. Actually thought Drogon would go after Jon and not the Throne.

 

 

 

 

Arya becoming an adventurer never really felt random. I didn't see it coming, but it was a logical conclusion for reasons Creep stated. Plus, she did refuse to settle with Gendry even after *censored*ing him.

 

Wonder if Dany turning evil and being killed was the important plot point that GRRM said would be in the books even if the show deviated immensely in its last season.

 

Sansa fully deserves being queen. I forgot if I said that already. Kinda odd Jon didn't let Drogon kill him, but I guess he's reckless, not suicidal.

 

 

The Dany thing will definitely happen. It will be more in depth and more further scoped out, but it will happen. It will probably involve different people too.

 

I love that Arya became an adventurer, its just her destination thats my problem. No one has ever found land west of Westeros. The ocean is way too large. In the latest book (Fire and Blood) Elissa Farman discovered 3 islands south-west of Westeros and thats the farthest anyone has ever discovered land. So Arya is either going to die a few weeks after the show ended or she will have to turn around and come back. They should have had her go to Asshai or something.L

 

 

That makes me wanna read the books now, especially now that I'll have Emilia's Dany to go off of. Few friends talked about the other Aegon and how him getting the support Dany wanted/wants will be part of what causes her to turn into a tyrant.

 

Ah I see. Didn't even know if there was a land to the west of Westeros, tbh. Maybe those three islands will help Arya by providing food to continue, at the very least.

 

 

 

what a lot people don't realize is they also sent grey worm and the unsullied army to their deaths

 

https://screenrant.com/game-thrones-grey-worm-death-naath-books/

 

 

Smart though weird.

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Drogon wasn't going to kill the last living Targaryen

 

 

 

Yeah I always wondered if dragons could sense people with Targaryen blood, hence Drogon forming a sort of bond with Jon from the start - I'm not even sure Drogon knew it was Jon who killed Dany, and that he was literally just incinerating anything expendable in fury at her death.

 

Overall I thought that the ending was pretty good, although I laughed at Jon being forced to go back to the watch, given that there is actually no purpose or point in the watch now the Night King is history. I did like the fact that he was back with the Free Folk and essentially just exploring for a new home with them. It would have been nice to see him be King, as he really seemed to be the best candidate, but Bran wasn't a bad choice.

 

 

 

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Drogon wasn't going to kill the last living Targaryen

 

 

 

Yeah I always wondered if dragons could sense people with Targaryen blood, hence Drogon forming a sort of bond with Jon from the start - I'm not even sure Drogon knew it was Jon who killed Dany, and that he was literally just incinerating anything expendable in fury at her death.

 

Overall I thought that the ending was pretty good, although I laughed at Jon being forced to go back to the watch, given that there is actually no purpose or point in the watch now the Night King is history. I did like the fact that he was back with the Free Folk and essentially just exploring for a new home with them. It would have been nice to see him be King, as he really seemed to be the best candidate, but Bran wasn't a bad choice.

 

 

 

 

 

Yes they can. they are sentient magical creatures. Valyrian blood, not just Targaryen.

 

Also there is definitely a point to the Night's Watch. The Watch haven't been battling white walkers for 10 thousand years, they were fighting wildlings. Jon managed to get some wildlings onto his side, but there is an uncountable number of them and it's only a matter of time before they started raiding south of the wall again. Tormund and his crew have an alliance with Jon and the watch, but Tormund doesn't speak for all of the free folk.

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Well I got the feeling he was just helping Tormund escort his folk back to their home, he can't exactly leave the watch and go become king lol. He's too much of Ned's son to abandon the watch.

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Well I got the feeling he was just helping Tormund escort his folk back to their home, he can't exactly leave the watch and go become king lol. He's too much of Ned's son to abandon the watch.

Not officially, but I think that there is going more open communication between the Night's Watch and the different tribes of Free Folk. An open gate too.
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Fire & Blood is a dope book, but Im not sure how they will adapt it. The book goes a generation/king per chapter, and if they took that format the show will be like 15 seasons long.

 

At least we will finally get to see Aegon the Conqueror uniting the continent, the Dance of the Dragons and possibly even Roberts Rebellion at the end.

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