Paulie Walnuts Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Nah. Just another faction that already has shown a weakness this early into the game. They only beat up heels and are struggling with Ryback. I don't see how they're showing weakness. Were you expecting Ryback not to fight back valiantly? They had to make him and the Shield look good. Ryback fought back.. and successfully did so until Punk cowardly jumped him from behind (and even he almost couldn't get the job done.) The Shield, alone, could not handle Ryback after only 2 weeks. This is why the Nexus is already better than the Shield. At least they hauled ass for a couple of pay per views. As they should, considering they had 4 more extra guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
»highlight Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 Nah. Just another faction that already has shown a weakness this early into the game. They only beat up heels and are struggling with Ryback. I don't see how they're showing weakness. Were you expecting Ryback not to fight back valiantly? They had to make him and the Shield look good. Ryback fought back.. and successfully did so until Punk cowardly jumped him from behind (and even he almost couldn't get the job done.) The Shield, alone, could not handle Ryback after only 2 weeks. This is why the Nexus is already better than the Shield. At least they hauled ass for a couple of pay per views. The Nexus couldn't do it alone either, they always kicked ass in a gang type way just like the Shield did. If they were weak, they would have run away when Ryback did get the upperhand for the time being. Did Cena overcome the Nexus the Raw after they debuted? No. Ryback did with the Shield, minus Punk. Nah. Just another faction that already has shown a weakness this early into the game. They only beat up heels and are struggling with Ryback. I don't see how they're showing weakness. Were you expecting Ryback not to fight back valiantly? They had to make him and the Shield look good. Ryback fought back.. and successfully did so until Punk cowardly jumped him from behind (and even he almost couldn't get the job done.) The Shield, alone, could not handle Ryback after only 2 weeks. This is why the Nexus is already better than the Shield. At least they hauled ass for a couple of pay per views. As they should, considering they had 4 more extra guys. True, but it's about quality not quantity. These 3 guy's potential match the 8 or 7 guys in Nexus (besides Bryan, Barrett and maybe Gabriel, this place didn't have faith in anybody else in that group during the NXT season. You're all on Young's and Slater's dick nowadays.) The Nex-seven exceeded expectations, while the three in the Shield have been hot prospects for years that many WWE fans have already crowned as world champions have lost a lot of steam only a week into their formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntsman Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 John Cena & Punk are not involved. The shield is not The Nexus. They are the shit. Paul Heyman is behind them. K thnx bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Walnuts Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I don't think they lost any steam. I mean sure Ryback fought back, he's a machine, he was supposed to. He's supposed to look unstoppable, the bigger picture is, the machine, in the end got overpowered. They continue to do what nobody else in WWE has down so far, and that's to hurt a machine. They've found the kink in his armor, and as long as they have numbers, they'll continue to decimate. Now if Ryback beats them in a match to the point where they can no longer move, then they'd lose steam. Which is probably going to eventually happen anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger. Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I don't think they lost any steam. I mean sure Ryback fought back, he's a machine, he was supposed to. He's supposed to look unstoppable, the bigger picture is, the machine, in the end got overpowered. They continue to do what nobody else in WWE has down so far, and that's to hurt a machine. They've found the kink in his armor, and as long as they have numbers, they'll continue to decimate. Now if Ryback beats them in a match to the point where they can no longer move, then they'd lose steam. Which is probably going to eventually happen anyway. Bingo. I just hope the last two sentences don't happen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
»highlight Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I don't think they lost any steam. I mean sure Ryback fought back, he's a machine, he was supposed to. He's supposed to look unstoppable, the bigger picture is, the machine, in the end got overpowered. They continue to do what nobody else in WWE has down so far, and that's to hurt a machine. They've found the kink in his armor, and as long as they have numbers, they'll continue to decimate. Now if Ryback beats them in a match to the point where they can no longer move, then they'd lose steam. Which is probably going to eventually happen anyway. Bingo. I just hope the last two sentences don't happen though. That's fine. The good guys 98% of the time come out of the feud victorious. I know Ryback will have his day when he'll break the Shield. For now though, let the rookies completely dominate and have Ryback slowly crack them. It was like the band-aid was ripped off completely and quickly this week, and then Punk saved them. Save that for something mid-story. Not week 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger. Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I don't think they lost any steam. I mean sure Ryback fought back, he's a machine, he was supposed to. He's supposed to look unstoppable, the bigger picture is, the machine, in the end got overpowered. They continue to do what nobody else in WWE has down so far, and that's to hurt a machine. They've found the kink in his armor, and as long as they have numbers, they'll continue to decimate. Now if Ryback beats them in a match to the point where they can no longer move, then they'd lose steam. Which is probably going to eventually happen anyway. Bingo. I just hope the last two sentences don't happen though. That's fine. The good guys 98% of the time come out of the feud victorious. I know Ryback will have his day when he'll break the Shield. For now though, let the rookies completely dominate and have Ryback slowly crack them. It was like the band-aid was ripped off completely and quickly this week, and then Punk saved them. Save that for something mid-story. Not week 2. If they completely dominate him, he looks weak and his character isn't the type to be weak or he and his presence goes "poof". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickshow Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 They are making it seem like they are doing this to benefit Punk, which means that ultimately they will not be working for Punk. You just need a little bit of knowledge on wrestling storylines/TV in general to know this. Best choice would be Paul Heyman as many people have stated already, or they could just be working on their own. Nexus didn't need anyone, Wade Barrett stepped up and took over the leadership role so it's not completely necessary for Shield to have a current wrestler on Raw/Smackdown join up with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
»highlight Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I don't think they lost any steam. I mean sure Ryback fought back, he's a machine, he was supposed to. He's supposed to look unstoppable, the bigger picture is, the machine, in the end got overpowered. They continue to do what nobody else in WWE has down so far, and that's to hurt a machine. They've found the kink in his armor, and as long as they have numbers, they'll continue to decimate. Now if Ryback beats them in a match to the point where they can no longer move, then they'd lose steam. Which is probably going to eventually happen anyway. Bingo. I just hope the last two sentences don't happen though. That's fine. The good guys 98% of the time come out of the feud victorious. I know Ryback will have his day when he'll break the Shield. For now though, let the rookies completely dominate and have Ryback slowly crack them. It was like the band-aid was ripped off completely and quickly this week, and then Punk saved them. Save that for something mid-story. Not week 2. If they completely dominate him, he looks weak and his character isn't the type to be weak or he and his presence goes "poof". So the past week hasn't been about the Shield, it's been about Ryback already? I understand he's a machine, but it would be shocking if all these month's of Ryback's domination are completely lost because of three mystery men. I hate to keep bringing them up, but because they're a similar type of faction, Nexus' first couple of months were done properly, and am just worried Shield will burn out even faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger. Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I don't think they lost any steam. I mean sure Ryback fought back, he's a machine, he was supposed to. He's supposed to look unstoppable, the bigger picture is, the machine, in the end got overpowered. They continue to do what nobody else in WWE has down so far, and that's to hurt a machine. They've found the kink in his armor, and as long as they have numbers, they'll continue to decimate. Now if Ryback beats them in a match to the point where they can no longer move, then they'd lose steam. Which is probably going to eventually happen anyway. Bingo. I just hope the last two sentences don't happen though. That's fine. The good guys 98% of the time come out of the feud victorious. I know Ryback will have his day when he'll break the Shield. For now though, let the rookies completely dominate and have Ryback slowly crack them. It was like the band-aid was ripped off completely and quickly this week, and then Punk saved them. Save that for something mid-story. Not week 2. If they completely dominate him, he looks weak and his character isn't the type to be weak or he and his presence goes "poof". So the past week hasn't been about the Shield, it's been about Ryback already? I understand he's a machine, but it would be shocking if all these month's of Ryback's domination are completely lost because of three mystery men. I hate to keep bringing them up, but because they're a similar type of faction, Nexus' first couple of months were done properly, and am just worried Shield will burn out even faster. You have to protect both of them. You can't bring these three to just dominate Ryback without him fighting back. The difference between Ryback and Cena's feud with Nexus was that Cena's character is more than just being dominant while Ryback's gimmick is only about that. When he loses his dominance, then he loses his credibility. The Shield shouldn't be squashed this soon either so that's why they are using the number game routine on him to show that it's still too much for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sXeRevolution Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 In my opinion, Shield is with Heyman. I doubt Punk is behind the whole Shield stable and I'm sure their going to turn on him sooner or later. Maybe this is going to lead to where Heyman turns on Punk? Maybe Lesnar gets into the picture? Anything can happen really but point blank, Heyman is behind the whole thing while Punk isn't. Cena isn't in it thats for damn sure, its Heyman Lol. This can all trace back to when Mick Foley told Punk that Heyman can't be trusted. Heyman + Shield = Heyman turning on Punk at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St★rstruck Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 In my opinion, Shield is with Heyman. I doubt Punk is behind the whole Shield stable and I'm sure their going to turn on him sooner or later. Maybe this is going to lead to where Heyman turns on Punk? Maybe Lesnar gets into the picture? Anything can happen really but point blank, Heyman is behind the whole thing while Punk isn't. Cena isn't in it thats for damn sure, its Heyman Lol. This can all trace back to when Mick Foley told Punk that Heyman can't be trusted. Heyman + Shield = Heyman turning on Punk at the end. You're probably right about that. There's a lot of scenarios that could play-out within the next couple of months going into WrestleMania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almost Easy Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 What if it were Jericho's End of the world as we know it? *Insert Keanu Reeves Meme* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grzmow. Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 What if it were Jericho's End of the world as we know it? *Insert Keanu Reeves Meme* My GOD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Sy™ Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 In my opinion, Shield is with Heyman. I doubt Punk is behind the whole Shield stable and I'm sure their going to turn on him sooner or later. Maybe this is going to lead to where Heyman turns on Punk? Maybe Lesnar gets into the picture? Anything can happen really but point blank, Heyman is behind the whole thing while Punk isn't. Cena isn't in it thats for damn sure, its Heyman Lol. This can all trace back to when Mick Foley told Punk that Heyman can't be trusted. Heyman + Shield = Heyman turning on Punk at the end. That's exactly what I had in mind earlier today. Heyman would make sense; a turn was slightly teased a couple of months ago, it'd be a swerve and it wouldn't be as predictable as the Punk-stable scenario. Heyman is keeping Punk as the Champion until Lesnar returns, who beats him for the title. Both are heels and Lesnar still has a program with H, but it could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libertine. Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 I think they will attack Punk, but it will be for the greater scheme of things, maybe costing The Rock at the rumble. Their whole crusade is about being fair, and The Rock returning just to take the belt is not really what is fair right now. Maybe there will be a program with Rock vs. The Shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger. Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 ^ Or maybe the Shield is working for the Rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King RyderFan Posted November 28, 2012 Report Share Posted November 28, 2012 ^ Or maybe the Shield is working for the Rock. They did it. For The Rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefffan Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 I'm thinking this could be an anti-wwe type angle. Looking at the people involved, I've gotta say, Cena and Ryback are the epitome of the "big man" or "superman" that McMahon gets high on and Punk, Rollins, Ambrose and Reigns seem to be the type of guys that never should have made it. In light of the WWE.com article on guys that should have never made it, and then looking at indy favorites becoming the face of the company (Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, hell, you could make an argument in regards to the divas division losing its barbie image like AJ, Kaitlyn, even Eve to an extent). It seems to me that the attitude PG thats been going on the last few years (if you notice, they swear more, more controversial storylines, yet still PG) has proven the Vinnie Mac superstar ideal is just getting ridiculous. We need to get edgier and more anti-hero. I'm not saying TV-14 edgy, but still edgier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
вlueprint Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 ^ Or maybe the Shield is working for the Rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyriqz ✪ Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 I'm thinking this could be an anti-wwe type angle. Looking at the people involved, I've gotta say, Cena and Ryback are the epitome of the "big man" or "superman" that McMahon gets high on and Punk, Rollins, Ambrose and Reigns seem to be the type of guys that never should have made it. In light of the WWE.com article on guys that should have never made it, and then looking at indy favorites becoming the face of the company (Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, hell, you could make an argument in regards to the divas division losing its barbie image like AJ, Kaitlyn, even Eve to an extent). It seems to me that the attitude PG thats been going on the last few years (if you notice, they swear more, more controversial storylines, yet still PG) has proven the Vinnie Mac superstar ideal is just getting ridiculous. We need to get edgier and more anti-hero. I'm not saying TV-14 edgy, but still edgier. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockstar™ Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 I'm thinking this could be an anti-wwe type angle. Looking at the people involved, I've gotta say, Cena and Ryback are the epitome of the "big man" or "superman" that McMahon gets high on and Punk, Rollins, Ambrose and Reigns seem to be the type of guys that never should have made it. In light of the WWE.com article on guys that should have never made it, and then looking at indy favorites becoming the face of the company (Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, hell, you could make an argument in regards to the divas division losing its barbie image like AJ, Kaitlyn, even Eve to an extent). It seems to me that the attitude PG thats been going on the last few years (if you notice, they swear more, more controversial storylines, yet still PG) has proven the Vinnie Mac superstar ideal is just getting ridiculous. We need to get edgier and more anti-hero. I'm not saying TV-14 edgy, but still edgier. Really? Name one Samoan who made it to the top (wwe title) other than the Rock? Yes Reigns is big but www has never really pushed Samoans all the way to the top. Excellent post jeffan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Evil Posted November 30, 2012 Report Share Posted November 30, 2012 I'm thinking this could be an anti-wwe type angle. Looking at the people involved, I've gotta say, Cena and Ryback are the epitome of the "big man" or "superman" that McMahon gets high on and Punk, Rollins, Ambrose and Reigns seem to be the type of guys that never should have made it. In light of the WWE.com article on guys that should have never made it, and then looking at indy favorites becoming the face of the company (Daniel Bryan, CM Punk, hell, you could make an argument in regards to the divas division losing its barbie image like AJ, Kaitlyn, even Eve to an extent). It seems to me that the attitude PG thats been going on the last few years (if you notice, they swear more, more controversial storylines, yet still PG) has proven the Vinnie Mac superstar ideal is just getting ridiculous. We need to get edgier and more anti-hero. I'm not saying TV-14 edgy, but still edgier. Really? Name one Samoan who made it to the top (wwe title) other than the Rock? Yes Reigns is big but www has never really pushed Samoans all the way to the top. Excellent post jeffan. Yokozuna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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