Crack. Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Triple H at #6 very well deserved. Edge at 20 is blasphemy. Regal not being on the list at all is even more ridiculous. Just shows how racist Vince is. Hating on the English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King RyderFan Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Triple H at #6 very well deserved. Edge at 20 is blasphemy. Regal not being on the list at all is even more ridiculous. Just shows how racist Vince is. Hating on the English. How is that racist? They're both white! Regal isn't in the top 50 though, Regal is a great in ring wrestler but he's never been a top heel. So why would he be on a Top 50 Heels of all time. Response to bold: Racism can also be discriminating someone because of they're nationality. Me saying "I hate Mason Ryan because he's welsh" is the same as hating Kofi Kingston because of his skin colour. Response to underlined: Please name me times the the Dudleyz & Raven were top heels then. Disclaimer: I do not hate Mason Ryan or Kofi Kingston. I think they are both reat in their current roles and I hope they will have long careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 vince should've been first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion™ Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Triple H at #6 very well deserved. Edge at 20 is blasphemy. Regal not being on the list at all is even more ridiculous. Just shows how racist Vince is. Hating on the English. How is that racist? They're both white! Regal isn't in the top 50 though, Regal is a great in ring wrestler but he's never been a top heel. So why would he be on a Top 50 Heels of all time. Response to bold: Racism can also be discriminating someone because of they're nationality. Me saying "I hate Mason Ryan because he's welsh" is the same as hating Kofi Kingston because of his skin colour. Response to underlined: Please name me times the the Dudleyz & Raven were top heels then. Disclaimer: I do not hate Mason Ryan or Kofi Kingston. I think they are both reat in their current roles and I hope they will have long careers. They were never top heels but they were still good heels. Not saying Regal isn't but he isn't a Top 50 Heel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGPLX. Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Orton, Lesnar and Edge should all be higher, at least in the top 20. HHH should be top 3 too, but I can understand why he's not as he's spent a lot of his career as a face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion™ Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 But when Triple H was a heel nobody was better. He made people hate him, he could have had a program with Rosie and the crowd would have been all for Rosey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aesop Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Rick Rude should be higher than Jake Roberts, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion™ Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Jake Roberts was a really good bad guy. So was Rude but I felt when they were both in there primes that Roberts stood out more. It's really debatable actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ǝpitome Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Stone Cold not on the list? William Regal not on the list? Abdullah The Butcher on the list? He's a villian because he is a disgrace to the human kind. He purposely blades people without their permissions then passes Hep C to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
μndrey Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 JBL's say on the list: I have to say the top 50 greatest heel list by WWE is pretty far off. Forget JBL, I'm too biased to comment on myself, after all who else has had to have a police escort out of a town like I had in El Paso in 2004? That is real heat-and has any heel had any heat like that where folks were actually wanting to kill you since then, but I digress. The biggest problem I have is with Gorgeous George being #9. I believe he was the greatest heel of all time, he inspired Muhammad Ali and James Brown-this was the guy who set the bar. Nothing against my pal Hot Rod, I think Roddy was greatest heel of modern era. It is hard to compare eras, so how do you compare Hot Rod to the 'Toast of the Coast' The "Sensation of the Nation" the 'Gorgeous One'. It's impossible. So any list is arbitrary. However, putting Gorgeous George #9 is insane. The 4 Horsemen were the greatest faction of all time, you have to have them at the top. There are so many great heels, omitting Bruiser Brody though? Really? Or Stan Hansen? Or William Regal? Hollywood Hulk Hogan? Give me a break. Hogan was in the top 3 of biggest draws of all time, perhaps the biggest-depends on how you define the Stone Cold era. However, a heel? He wasnt a real heel he was a character. Greatest storyline of all time was the NWO and biggest match of all time was him versus Andre (that was ALL him, and he should get credit for that), but he was never a proper heel-he was still the Hulk, big difference. Only two heels in the last 20 years needed police escorts out of towns, me and Sgt Slaughter. No one else. Before that there were many. Hot Rod had heat like a nuclear bomb, he could be greatest heel ever-if the Gorgeous One isn't and that is a close race. In the 70s and 80s there were great heels and too many to mention here. Dick Murdoch, my first tag partner, was one of best heels of all time. To put some of these guys on the list and not Captain Redneck? Come on! Any list is hard to justify, but I gotta say while this one has most of the top 50 in place I would argue the placing itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V to I Posted August 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Please name me times the the Dudleyz & Raven were top heels then. ECW. Raven feuding with Dreamer and Sandman would warrant him a spot. He feuded with Dreamer (in kayfabe) since middle school or whatever, and on and off for years in ECW. With Sandman, he brainwashed his son and ex-wife, then proceeded to crucify the Sandman in the middle of the ring. The Dudleyz caused near riots whenever they were on the mic, without even having to do a single move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiterhyno333 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 1. Ric Flair 2. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper 3. Vince McMahon 4. "Hollywood" Hulk Hogan 5. Bobby "the Brain" Heenan 6. Randy "Macho Man" Savage 7. "The Million Dollar Man" Ted DiBiase 8. Kurt Angle 9. Scott Hall/ "Razor" Ramon 10. "Superstar" Billy Graham 11. Triple H 12. The Rock 13. The Magnicent Murraco 14. Micheal "P.S." Hayes 15. Jake "The Snake" Roberts 16. Jim Correntte 17. Rick Rude 18. Andre the Giant 19. Chris Jericho 20. Eric Bischoff 21. Paul "Mr. Wonderful" Orndorff 22. Tully Blanchard 23. Raven 24. "The Heart Break Kid" Shawn Micheals 25. Bruiser Brody 26. Undertaker 27. "The Ultimate Oppurtunist" Edge 28. Kevin Sullivan 29. Terry Funk 30. "Mr. Perfect" Curt Henning 31. Jesse "The Body" Ventura 32. Big Van Vader 33. Paul E. Dangerously/ Paul Heyman 34. JBL 35. "Hotstuff" Eddie Gilbert 36. Nikta Koloff 37.Brock Lesnar 38. Jimmy Hart 39. "The Viper" Randy Orton 40. Kane 41. Sid Viscouse 42. Yokozuna 43. Honky Tonk Man 44. Stan Hansen 45. Arn Anderson 46. "The Franchise" Shane Douglas 47. "Lie, Cheat & Steal" Eddy Gurrero 48. CM Punk 49. Col. DeBeers 50. "Double J" Jeff Jarrett This list is based on the wrestlers I actually watched growing up/now, the reaction they got, in-ring ability, mic skills...etc. It is by no means definative, but its how I viewed them in their roles as heels. I never saw Killer Kolowski, Larry Zbysto, The Sheik, or Jerry Lawler so I can't honestly rank them. All the guys above, I saw... Feel free to disagree. (I also never saw Stone Colds heel run as memorable; in all honesty) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V to I Posted August 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 1. Ric Flair 2. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper 3. Vince McMahon 4. "Hollywood" Hulk Hogan 5. Bobby "the Brain" Heenan 6. Randy "Macho Man" Savage 7. "The Million Dollar Man" Ted DiBiase 8. Kurt Angle 9. Scott Hall/ "Razor" Ramon 10. "Superstar" Billy Graham 11. Triple H 12. The Rock 13. The Magnicent Murraco 14. Micheal "P.S." Hayes 15. Jake "The Snake" Roberts 16. Jim Correntte 17. Rick Rude 18. Andre the Giant 19. Chris Jericho 20. Eric Bischoff 21. Chris Jericho 22. Tully Blanchard 23. Raven 24. "The Heart Break Kid" Shawn Micheals 25. Tully Blanchard 26. Undertaker 27. "The Ultimate Oppurtunist" Edge 28. Kevin Sullivan 29. Terry Funk 30. "Mr. Perfect" Curt Henning 31. Jesse "The Body" Ventura 32. Big Van Vader 33. Paul E. Dangerously/ Paul Heyman 34. JBL 35. "Hotstuff" Eddie Gilbert 36. Nikta Koloff 37. Stan Hansen 38. Jimmy Hart 39. "The Viper" Randy Orton 40. Kane 41. Sid Viscouse 42. Yokozuna 43. Honky Tonk Man 44. Col. DeBeers 45. Arn Anderson 46. "The Franchise" Shane Douglas 47. "Lie, Cheat & Steal" Eddy Gurrero 48. Brock Lesnar 49. Shane McMahon 50. "Double J" Jeff Jarrett This list is based on the wrestlers I actually watched growing up/now, the reaction they got, in-ring ability, mic skills...etc. It is by no means definative, but its how I viewed them in their roles as heels. I never saw Killer Kolowski, Larry Zbysto, The Sheik, or Jerry Lawler so I can't honestly rank them. All the guys above, I saw... Feel free to disagree. (I also never saw Stone Colds heel run as memorable; in all honesty) You got some doubles there, brother. But I do like that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion™ Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 How could you put Angle above HHH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiterhyno333 Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 1. Ric Flair 2. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper 3. Vince McMahon 4. "Hollywood" Hulk Hogan 5. Bobby "the Brain" Heenan 6. Randy "Macho Man" Savage 7. "The Million Dollar Man" Ted DiBiase 8. Kurt Angle 9. Scott Hall/ "Razor" Ramon 10. "Superstar" Billy Graham 11. Triple H 12. The Rock 13. The Magnicent Murraco 14. Micheal "P.S." Hayes 15. Jake "The Snake" Roberts 16. Jim Correntte 17. Rick Rude 18. Andre the Giant 19. Chris Jericho 20. Eric Bischoff 21. Chris Jericho 22. Tully Blanchard 23. Raven 24. "The Heart Break Kid" Shawn Micheals 25. Tully Blanchard 26. Undertaker 27. "The Ultimate Oppurtunist" Edge 28. Kevin Sullivan 29. Terry Funk 30. "Mr. Perfect" Curt Henning 31. Jesse "The Body" Ventura 32. Big Van Vader 33. Paul E. Dangerously/ Paul Heyman 34. JBL 35. "Hotstuff" Eddie Gilbert 36. Nikta Koloff 37. Stan Hansen 38. Jimmy Hart 39. "The Viper" Randy Orton 40. Kane 41. Sid Viscouse 42. Yokozuna 43. Honky Tonk Man 44. Col. DeBeers 45. Arn Anderson 46. "The Franchise" Shane Douglas 47. "Lie, Cheat & Steal" Eddy Gurrero 48. Brock Lesnar 49. Shane McMahon 50. "Double J" Jeff Jarrett This list is based on the wrestlers I actually watched growing up/now, the reaction they got, in-ring ability, mic skills...etc. It is by no means definative, but its how I viewed them in their roles as heels. I never saw Killer Kolowski, Larry Zbysto, The Sheik, or Jerry Lawler so I can't honestly rank them. All the guys above, I saw... Feel free to disagree. (I also never saw Stone Colds heel run as memorable; in all honesty) You got some doubles there, brother. But I do like that list. Thanks for the catches... I did the intial off the top of my head and started moving people around and got dicked up... Thanks bro. How could you put Angle above HHH? Because... "It's true...It's true" I think Angle did a great job of manipulating the crowd during his WWF run. He had a way of turning a ho-hum crowd into a hostile crowd in hurry. Combine in-ring ability, better mic skills and I find him better... Trips is great, but I just think Angle is that much better.... The list outside the top 15 is very fluid,,, They are all great. I'm just trying to compile a list off 30 years of watching wrestling. Its tough and prone to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
μndrey Posted August 18, 2012 Report Share Posted August 18, 2012 Stop quoting the entire freaking list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiterhyno333 Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Stop quoting the entire freaking list. I'm sorry... I couldn't help it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 What about Paul Bearer? Worlds Worst D(e)ad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 No Earthquake? He was a monster heel in 1990. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
вlueprint Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 The list is legit to me with but the ordering is ridiculous. PC list of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiterhyno333 Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 What about Paul Bearer? Worlds Worst D(e)ad I may be in the minority, but I thought Percy Pringle was a way better persona for him. Back in World Class he got Rude so over when that guy was pretty green. Same with Dingo/Ultiment Warriror. While his shrill voice did add a little bit to Taker early; he was really just an accesory most of his career. Bearer could perform when needed and I enjoyed him. I just can't put him over anyone in my top 50. No Earthquake? He was a monster heel in 1990. Earthquake a a decent program with Hogan in the 90s, but he wasn't that great of a performer. He had no charisma. Sort of a dumpy look and had no charisma... Other than squashing Hogan on the Brother Love show, can you name anything he did that was note-worthy? Squashing Jake Robert's snake? Being in a decent tag team with Tugboat/Typhoon? Not top 50 worthy for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinity Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Stop quoting the entire freaking list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
μndrey Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Stop quoting the entire freaking list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeseHead. Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 This list needs more Andy Kaufman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldsie Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 This list needs some Scott Hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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