Crazy. Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 When talking about the WWE Championship, neither deserve to hold it. We're living in the present now, guys. This isn't the Attitude Era. Brock wasn't involved with the Attitude Era. These guys are major draws for the company, I think both deserve a title run with one of them putting someone like Punk over for the strap at a major PPV. Attitude Era was just an example I presented. As for major draws, that's exactly my point. Their match would get equal exposure, whether for the title or not. But by not having it for the title, they are getting themselves another high-profile match which is a win-win situation. Equal exposure, I agree but say someone like the The Rock or Lesnar (both are HUGE draws) drops the belt after their feud (assuming they have one of course) to someone like Punk (Using Punk because he's a well established babyface), not only will the belt actually mean something (because of who was holding it i.e Brock/Rock) but it would elevate Punk to Cena's level (or even beyond). The belt IMO doesn't matter in the Rock v Lesnar feud, just what happens after. Having someone Cody Rhodes (an example) losing the belt to Punk wouldn't benefit Rhodes or Punk in the slightest. In that case, having Lesnar or Rock as Champ would be more of a choice or need; than having them because they deserve to hold the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunDMLee Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Neither deserves it but more importantly & the key point is neither needs it & shouldnt be anywhere near the title scene. It would be a waste to put the belt on etiher of them as it would become a second rate tool to the wrestler themselves i dont mind them being on the roster but the title could be used to promote younger stars without them having to worry about drawing which would take pressure off those younger guys trying to step up to the main event & give them some breathing room to mature into the role. Basically the WWE needs to use the likes of Lesnar & Rock to take pressure off younger stars without putting the real test of drawing on them then by the time they have to go out & draw they'll be comfortable in the character plus be over with the fans without being considered a flop because the PPV failed to draw money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Tristany* Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Voted yes for first two . Lesnar for the third due to his age and wrestling / MMA background Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgato Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 why didnt you add one to the poll who obviously doesnt deserve another run with the Title (like the Miz) so youll have at least one of the questions answered with more negative than positive votes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swaggie. Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 To be honest I think Dwayne will get another run with the title because he's not going to mention it in a promo and then have it not happen? Well that's my opinion anyway. I don't understand how he'd have enough time to fued for the title, win and defend it though in coming years unless he puts a year to the side simply for wrestling and doesn't do a movie for 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthedoctor Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Considering most of the roster doesnt even know how to main event what ******* right do they have to get a run with the belt. Their is a reason why people like the Rock can pull crowds and you wonder why fans moan about Rock hogging the spotlight from the past 2 manias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
вlueprint⁴ Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 "well maybe they should step up their game", it's kinda hard to step up their game when their career get put on hold so Lesnar and Johnson gets put in front of them(and we all know what happen last time everyone's career got put on hold for Lesnar year's ago) just for a ratings boost and so Vince can make more money. that is not fair to the guys who are working A FULL schedule and are all ready potential top contenders to the WWE/WHC championships. When we say "step up their game" we are referring to a combination of their mic skills, presence and what WWE Creative had planned for them... Clearly all these years that Brock and Rock were gone, WWE had the opportunity to build up at least 10 new guys that can be somewhat on the same prestige as Rock and Brock... However, they did not capitalize off that as many of their top talents left (Angle, Goldberg, Batista, Lashley), retired (HBK, Edge), died (Eddie, Benoit) and others were top tier but the roster itself has been watered down in which they can easily be shoved out the way for a returning top star. It doesn't even matter how many days out the year you work because if all this time you put in work and still can't draw or keep up with the character of Rock or Brock... you will be pushed to the side easily. Blame the WWE Creative, the politics or whomever within WWE for not developing the current superstars to a level where they can't be replaced by returning top superstars. I think it just exposes how weak the roster has been all along and WWE has to either A) Improve greatly on developing their WWE superstars or B) Dumb down Rock, Brock and others to their current roster's level which is clearly not going to happen so.. A it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreay fufu Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 It would be fantastic if either held the WWE title, because that would be a magnificent advertisement for WWE. The Rock certainly would offer an immense amount as champion. And to those talking about not deserving the gold, well, it's really all about the narrative, and you put the gold on the guy who offers the best story. Just think of what winning the gold from either of them would do for the careers of newer guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brahma Bull Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 The WWE Title should be won because the person has earned it. It should not be used to promote someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise of Nightmares Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 No, no and neither. Let the youth develop. Exactly what I thought when I voted the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinFan Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Rock doesn't deserve even a shot at the WWE Title in today's WWE, say what you will about his legendary status, but in today's WWE, if you aren't there on a weekly basis, then you really don't deserve to even talk about being the WWE Champion. Lesnar deserves it more at the point, even though he won't be there every week(because he's only require to be at least 40 dates, as per his contract), but he'll still be around a hell of a lot more than The Rock. I think it's completely disrespectful to someone like The Rock who isn't even around alot or having matches on a regular basis to be put in the WWE Championship picture without doing much to say he's earned a shot, over the talent that is actually there every week. I know people will bring up his career is reason enough, but we are talking about 2012, not 1996-2004. In 2012, The Rock doesn't belong anywhere near the title picture, unless he decides to actually be here on a regular basis & have matches regularly as well, not just for special occasion. That's why I feel Brock is more deserving at the point than The Rock, because of how often Brock will be here & having matches on a regular basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack The Ripper Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 No No Neither Both were away, both didn't care about their Wrestling careers. Everyone wants to see Ziggler, Kofi & co. as World Champion. that's not going to happen with The BRock Lesnar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickshow Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Yes Yes and The Rock. I think Rock with the title would be a much bigger moment than Lesnar winning it, although I can see Lesnar being the type of guy to actually hold the belt for a long time in a stable with Johnny, as somebody said before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunDMLee Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Either guy winning the belt makes it more meaningless than management & creative already have, neither needs it so should be kept well away from it & whilst there feuding have the likes of Kofi, Dolph, Rhodes, Barrett etc feud over it in the upper mid card honing there drawing power & main event status Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fayth Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 They both deserve it. We do live in the present by Brock is only 34 and I think he can still go; Rock has already proven that he can go. I'd prefer either of them in the main event over Cena anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPC Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 I think Putting the title on either one of them would be a good move for the WWE title, Brock/Rock and the company because think about it. Having a currrent WWE guy not only win the title, but win it off a major star like Rock or Brock could do wonders for that superstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonshaad1230 Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 While you guys are mostly in the majority, I'm going to have to be that one guy who disagrees with you all. I believe they shouldn't get another run at the title. Brock just came back, why on earth should we just throw the title on him? And the Rock's been here for one year and had 2 matches? Just because he had a feud... lackluster at that, with John Cena, doesn't mean he's number one for any contendership for the title. The opportunity and time that they can be champion, should be used for those upper mid-carders to get a shot. Their so called "spots" should be reserved for the much younger and newer generation. We old fans should just be glad to see that they came back but please for the sake of being a fan, don't try to sit there and say they deserve or they should get it. Especially, when you see struggling, green, superstars who broke their backs for Lord knows how long just to get an opportunity to be in the WWE. It's just like us American fans to say we would LIKE to see the WWE push these guys but when its time for us to decide, we'd rather watch WWE OVERPUSH the old guys to the moon. Edit: Oh and by the way, NO NO and Neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 They both do. Anyone saying that they're taking the spotlight away from younger stars need to realize that there aren't too many names in the industry as big as Rock and Lesnar. By putting the belt on them and then having them lose the belt, it does much more for any rising star than it would by simply having them win/defend the title among other rising stars. Furthermore, I would say that the reason a lot of the newer generation stars have had difficulty getting over, aside from poor booking, is because a lot of the big names had already exited the industry before they were in that position. I think WWE management thought they had enough good talent back when guys like Lesnar and Rock left. Of course, you then had the passing of guys like Guerrero and Benoit, Taker and HHH being on part-time schedules, the retirement of HBK, the early retirement of Edge, etc. The end result was a roster full of rookies with no one to push their careers to the next level. That's how wrestling works. It's a good thing to have these established names back. This isn't like TNA, where they hire completely washed up talent in an attempt to attract views. Rock and Lesnar can still offer a lot to the WWE fans, and more importantly, the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 lol @tonshaad1230 Did you have that same mentality when Hogan won the strap 10 years ago brother. Anyway, Yes they deserve it. The title is already a joke for the most part anyway. Big deal about the young guys. Punk is bringing some great prestige back to it though, and having Rock/Lesnar hold the strap will just up the ante. Plus, when they lose the belt, the person beating them will look great and get a huge rub. This business needs major names to hold that belt again. Its meant for the top dogs to get it, while those waiting for that chance work their way up to that spot. Lesnar & Rock did that years ago. They are champion worthy, Just like Trips & Taker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonshaad1230 Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 lol @tonshaad1230 Did you have that same mentality when Hogan won the strap 10 years ago brother. Anyway, Yes they deserve it. The title is already a joke for the most part anyway. Big deal about the young guys. Punk is bringing some great prestige back to it though, and having Rock/Lesnar hold the strap will just up the ante. Plus, when they lose the belt, the person beating them will look great and get a huge rub. This business needs major names to hold that belt again. Its meant for the top dogs to get it, while those waiting for that chance work their way up to that spot. Lesnar & Rock did that years ago. They are champion worthy, Just like Trips & Taker. What is it for you to know? And for you information yes I did. i felt that Hogan's name was enough to carry it through but the WWE knew the fans wouldn't have had it any other way. Hogan being champion then losing it to Undertaker made Undertaker more enough a main eventer. Plus when we all look at it from 10 years later, I'll ask you that same question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 lol @tonshaad1230 Did you have that same mentality when Hogan won the strap 10 years ago brother. Anyway, Yes they deserve it. The title is already a joke for the most part anyway. Big deal about the young guys. Punk is bringing some great prestige back to it though, and having Rock/Lesnar hold the strap will just up the ante. Plus, when they lose the belt, the person beating them will look great and get a huge rub. This business needs major names to hold that belt again. Its meant for the top dogs to get it, while those waiting for that chance work their way up to that spot. Lesnar & Rock did that years ago. They are champion worthy, Just like Trips & Taker. What is it for you to know? And for you information yes I did. i felt that Hogan's name was enough to carry it through but the WWE knew the fans wouldn't have had it any other way. Hogan being champion then losing it to Undertaker made Undertaker more enough a main eventer. Plus when we all look at it from 10 years later, I'll ask you that same question. I didnt care. I loved Hogan having that run. Its exactly why I worded what I did. Same thing applies. Hogan getting the strap back then is just as fine as Lesnar/Rock these days. What you said was bad of Rock/Lesnar getting the strap can be directly pointed at Hogan getting his. Thats all. But still, its not that bad for these older guys to get runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Dreadful Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 Rock doesn't deserve even a shot at the WWE Title in today's WWE, say what you will about his legendary status, but in today's WWE, if you aren't there on a weekly basis, then you really don't deserve to even talk about being the WWE Champion. Lesnar deserves it more at the point, even though he won't be there every week(because he's only require to be at least 40 dates, as per his contract), but he'll still be around a hell of a lot more than The Rock. I think it's completely disrespectful to someone like The Rock who isn't even around alot or having matches on a regular basis to be put in the WWE Championship picture without doing much to say he's earned a shot, over the talent that is actually there every week. I know people will bring up his career is reason enough, but we are talking about 2012, not 1996-2004. In 2012, The Rock doesn't belong anywhere near the title picture, unless he decides to actually be here on a regular basis & have matches regularly as well, not just for special occasion. That's why I feel Brock is more deserving at the point than The Rock, because of how often Brock will be here & having matches on a regular basis. i wanna add something to this^ lets not forget that Brock is back for how long?.....1 YEAR. then he's gone....agian. Ziggler, Orton, Sheamus, Bryan, Punk,Kofi, Cena, Christian, Show,Brodus, Cody, Dibiase, Ryder, Hawkins, Reks, Drew, Swagger, (the possable return of Morrison later this year) will STILL be around the next several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger. Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 Why are people acting like Rock and Brock are old? Brock is the same age as Cena and Sheamus and Rock is 38, fours older than Cena and Sheamus. You know who is old? The Undertaker, Sting, Batista. That's old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 ^^ That too. These guys are not old at all. It doesn't matter if they left, it doesn't matter if one isn't there all the time, what matters is what they can bring to the table. And BOTH men still have a lot to offer to this business. Rock and/or Brock getting the strap is good stuff. WWE can still focus on young guys and build people up. Hopefully building someone fresh to take that strap off them. Once again huge rub. None of these guys getting the title is going to stop and halt pushes of current/younger guys. lol at some of the responses here. Good thing most of you guys aren't running this company. They both do. Anyone saying that they're taking the spotlight away from younger stars need to realize that there aren't too many names in the industry as big as Rock and Lesnar. By putting the belt on them and then having them lose the belt, it does much more for any rising star than it would by simply having them win/defend the title among other rising stars. Furthermore, I would say that the reason a lot of the newer generation stars have had difficulty getting over, aside from poor booking, is because a lot of the big names had already exited the industry before they were in that position. I think WWE management thought they had enough good talent back when guys like Lesnar and Rock left. Of course, you then had the passing of guys like Guerrero and Benoit, Taker and HHH being on part-time schedules, the retirement of HBK, the early retirement of Edge, etc. The end result was a roster full of rookies with no one to push their careers to the next level. That's how wrestling works. It's a good thing to have these established names back. This isn't like TNA, where they hire completely washed up talent in an attempt to attract views. Rock and Lesnar can still offer a lot to the WWE fans, and more importantly, the roster. This sums it up. WWE did have some potential stars that all left and or got canned. The year 2007 comes to mind. A TON of guys got let go by the time that year was over. 2010 was also another year that WWE had to focus on their current crop and it really wasnt all that special. This business needs guys like Rock & Brock. That starpower. You would be silly to say otherwise. Rock/Brock also need to be used to help some of those talent that they have as well. WWE roster looks so bad compared to ten years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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