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The thing I don't like about Nickelback is just that there's so many bands that sound like them. I'm just not into the whole sound of the whole post-grunge genre. It just has a douchey vibe to it. They lack a sense of consistency too. They have those songs that are douchey anthems about doing it and the life of a whore, and then they have upbeat pop songs that get played on VH1. It's like two completely different bands. They lack sort of an identity. I know I, myself, am into generic pop punk bands like A Day To Remember, but their lyrics are really relatable to me. I can't really explain why I like some bands and don't like others. In the end I guess it just comes down to Nickelback has never impressed me. Pat Carney derailed them in his Rolling Stone interview too.

 

You're exactly right about all of that. And man are there a bunch of Nickelback clones or what! Theory of a Deadman comes to mind. It's like if you crossed country hicks with some douchey frat boys, you get that band. It's just a bad combo.

Trust me I know about the clones. My dad listens to them on the radio 24/7. I can probably name every clone without even hesitating. He constantly asks me if I want to go to Rockfest and I always tell him no. Bands like Seether and Shinedown just aren't my cup of tea.

 

Seether isnt a clone of Nickelback, rofl. It's a nirvana clone.

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I like: Slipknot, Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco, 3OH!3, My Chemical Romance, Bullet 4 My Valentine and Linkin Park which are all viewed as uncool where I live but that's probably because I live in a typical Hip Hop Street where you get laughed at if you listen to any kind of rock,metal etc. 3OH!3 are trash but it's catchy.

 

The irony is that most of that stuff is currently uncool amongst people who listen to rock and metal as well.

 

I don't know about MCR, I'm sure they have a fanbase still. I know Linkin Park does. They get hate for being mainstream, but they still have fans at least. As for FOB, well the emo thing is kinda dead now right? And BFMV capitalized on the emo scene too, but by adding a dose of metal. I don't blame bands like them and Avenged for jumping on that concept... but it's not my thing.

 

And finally...

Slipknot is usually the target for most of the nu metal hate. IMO it's for good reason. I have to agree with "most people u know". I really hate that band. I'm not alone... everyone I know hates on Slipknot. Because nobody wants to pin that hate on bands who innovated a new style like Korn and the Deftones. I for one respect the hell out of Korn and the Deftones. They created a new style that was different than everything else out there. They weren't on a mission to create "Nu" metal. They were just being different. But a band like Slipknot is a total derivative of the nu metal scene. And some of the early groups (like the Deftones especially) at least had strong lyricz (no pun intended :lol:). System of a Down isn't my cup of tea musically, but they aren't that bad. Serj is an intelligent guy and their songs had meaning and lyricism to them. So those types of bands don't get hated much, and when they do (SOAD gets some online hate) there is at least counterpoints to show that they had merit. But Slipknot was just mindless, aggressive nonsense with breakdowns and shit. When you have 9 people in your f*ckin band, and not a real musician amongst them... it's no surprise that Slipknot became a laughing stock after their initial wave of popularity had faded.

 

If "every band today sounds like Nickelback", wouldn't that mean Nickelback originated the genre that you hate? At least they were innovators at one point; it's everyone else that gave them a bad name :rolleyes:

They should be hated even more for originating such a dull genre then, plus they aren't good.

 

That's where I disagree, see I can appreciate and respect musical innovation, even if I don't like it. I don't know who started emo, I really don't care who started emo as I hate emo, but whoever did has my respect for doing something different.

 

The thing is, I don't know that Nickelback actually innovated a style. Post-grunge existed before them. Bands like Days of the New and so on. Nickelback just became big arena level popular. So did 3 Doors Down and other remotely similar bands though. So I don't really think Nickelback started any movements in music.

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I like: Slipknot, Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco, 3OH!3, My Chemical Romance, Bullet 4 My Valentine and Linkin Park which are all viewed as uncool where I live but that's probably because I live in a typical Hip Hop Street where you get laughed at if you listen to any kind of rock,metal etc. 3OH!3 are trash but it's catchy.

 

If "every band today sounds like Nickelback", wouldn't that mean Nickelback originated the genre that you hate? At least they were innovators at one point; it's everyone else that gave them a bad name :rolleyes:

They should be hated even more for originating such a dull genre then, plus they aren't good.

 

That's where I disagree, see I can appreciate and respect musical innovation, even if I don't like it. I don't know who started emo, I really don't care who started emo as I hate emo, but whoever did has my respect for doing something different.

 

 

What you hate isn't emo. Bands like The Used, MCR and Panic! were post-emo.

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I like: Slipknot, Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco, 3OH!3, My Chemical Romance, Bullet 4 My Valentine and Linkin Park which are all viewed as uncool where I live but that's probably because I live in a typical Hip Hop Street where you get laughed at if you listen to any kind of rock,metal etc. 3OH!3 are trash but it's catchy.

 

If "every band today sounds like Nickelback", wouldn't that mean Nickelback originated the genre that you hate? At least they were innovators at one point; it's everyone else that gave them a bad name :rolleyes:

They should be hated even more for originating such a dull genre then, plus they aren't good.

 

That's where I disagree, see I can appreciate and respect musical innovation, even if I don't like it. I don't know who started emo, I really don't care who started emo as I hate emo, but whoever did has my respect for doing something different.

 

 

What you hate isn't emo. Bands like The Used, MCR and Panic! were post-emo.

 

Ok, fair enough. Who did innovate emo? Can it be traced back as far as The Cure? Those guys were not emo per say, but really, really oversensitive none the less.

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I like: Slipknot, Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco, 3OH!3, My Chemical Romance, Bullet 4 My Valentine and Linkin Park which are all viewed as uncool where I live but that's probably because I live in a typical Hip Hop Street where you get laughed at if you listen to any kind of rock,metal etc. 3OH!3 are trash but it's catchy.

 

If "every band today sounds like Nickelback", wouldn't that mean Nickelback originated the genre that you hate? At least they were innovators at one point; it's everyone else that gave them a bad name :rolleyes:

They should be hated even more for originating such a dull genre then, plus they aren't good.

 

That's where I disagree, see I can appreciate and respect musical innovation, even if I don't like it. I don't know who started emo, I really don't care who started emo as I hate emo, but whoever did has my respect for doing something different.

 

 

What you hate isn't emo. Bands like The Used, MCR and Panic! were post-emo.

 

Ok, fair enough. Who did innovate emo? Can it be traced back as far as The Cure? Those guys were not emo per say, but really, really oversensitive none the less.

 

Maybe sunny day real estate, the cure are more new wave/post-punk.

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Not that I really believe it but I've read of Morrissey being the Forefather of Emo.

 

Emo, like the word hipster which seems to get thrown around a lot (even in the OP), seems to be more a music that people of a particular fashion listen to which is why it's hard to pin point what it is musically.

 

For me it's just like a bastardised, watered down version of hardcore.

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If "every band today sounds like Nickelback", wouldn't that mean Nickelback originated the genre that you hate? At least they were innovators at one point; it's everyone else that gave them a bad name :rolleyes:

I don't recall anyone saying every band sounds like Nickelbak. If I said it, I certainly didn't mean it literally. There is alot though. I don't really think they are innovators either really. I think they tried to do a sorta grundgish sound, but then their were told to add a bit of a pop twist to it. What I mean to say is I've never heard a Nickelback and thought it sounded like anything fresh. Then again, there isn't too many innovators in rock music today. There's bands who do something that's different from the current trend such as Mumford and Sons, The Black Keys, Foxy Shazam, etc. but it isn't much of an innovation as much as it is a revival of a genre that isn't heard of often in the mainstream anymore.

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If "every band today sounds like Nickelback", wouldn't that mean Nickelback originated the genre that you hate? At least they were innovators at one point; it's everyone else that gave them a bad name :rolleyes:

I don't recall anyone saying every band sounds like Nickelbak. If I said it, I certainly didn't mean it literally. There is alot though. I don't really think they are innovators either really. I think they tried to do a sorta grundgish sound, but then their were told to add a bit of a pop twist to it. What I mean to say is I've never heard a Nickelback and thought it sounded like anything fresh. Then again, there isn't too many innovators in rock music today. There's bands who do something that's different from the current trend such as Mumford and Sons, The Black Keys, Foxy Shazam, etc. but it isn't much of an innovation as much as it is a revival of a genre that isn't heard of often in the mainstream anymore.

 

Yeah, when you consider a group like Mumford and Sons, I mean it is fresh, but yeah that style of folksiness can be traced back over a hundred years maybe... if one wanted to delve into the origins of that type of sound, you could probably find it's roots in an English pub circa 1870 or something.

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I like: Slipknot, Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco, 3OH!3, My Chemical Romance, Bullet 4 My Valentine and Linkin Park which are all viewed as uncool where I live but that's probably because I live in a typical Hip Hop Street where you get laughed at if you listen to any kind of rock,metal etc. 3OH!3 are trash but it's catchy.

 

The irony is that most of that stuff is currently uncool amongst people who listen to rock and metal as well.

 

I don't know about MCR, I'm sure they have a fanbase still. I know Linkin Park does. They get hate for being mainstream, but they still have fans at least. As for FOB, well the emo thing is kinda dead now right? And BFMV capitalized on the emo scene too, but by adding a dose of metal. I don't blame bands like them and Avenged for jumping on that concept... but it's not my thing.

 

And finally...

Slipknot is usually the target for most of the nu metal hate. IMO it's for good reason. I have to agree with "most people u know". I really hate that band. I'm not alone... everyone I know hates on Slipknot. Because nobody wants to pin that hate on bands who innovated a new style like Korn and the Deftones. I for one respect the hell out of Korn and the Deftones. They created a new style that was different than everything else out there. They weren't on a mission to create "Nu" metal. They were just being different. But a band like Slipknot is a total derivative of the nu metal scene. And some of the early groups (like the Deftones especially) at least had strong lyricz (no pun intended :lol:). System of a Down isn't my cup of tea musically, but they aren't that bad. Serj is an intelligent guy and their songs had meaning and lyricism to them. So those types of bands don't get hated much, and when they do (SOAD gets some online hate) there is at least counterpoints to show that they had merit. But Slipknot was just mindless, aggressive nonsense with breakdowns and shit. When you have 9 people in your f*ckin band, and not a real musician amongst them... it's no surprise that Slipknot became a laughing stock after their initial wave of popularity had faded.

 

Well i wouldn't say their isn't a real musician amonst them Joey Jordison was awarded as best drummer several times if I recall corecctly. And vocalist's are preytt much preference. As far as their actual sound goes, I started noticing them when I had a pretty big down phase in my life and the average heartbreak shit every band does now and then (Beeing Vermillion Part 2 for them) was interesing because the first tracks I heard were Wait & Bleed and Spit it out which wasn't my cup of tea back then but the aggression was very releasing around that time and the soft song surprised me because the image I had of them was just 9 guys in weird masks with a lot of screaming but the melodic part got me hooked. I stopped listening for a while and then I started listening to Stone Sour which is Corey Taylor

s band (He is singer of Slipknot, just incase you don't know) and I liked the way he sang. Then their 3rd Album came out and it was rather dark but melodic and I just got hooked with it. It's probably not exactl the smartest music nor the technically best but it just sounds good to me and not only did it help me through a tough time (God that sound's like I'm a huge pussy, I apologize...) and it went with me through the time when most teenager's need the feeling to be unique which is easy in a huge Hip Hop town with listening to Slipknot.

 

As far as FOB, PATD! and B4MV goes: Yeah, It's pretty emo-ish but FOB's singer has a great voice imo and B4MV's instrumental work was great to me and the voice was, not exactly great but cool. But with the exception of a couple of songs from them it's pretty simple empty songwriting. But hey lok at Nirvana. Cobain said himself he didn't cared about his lyrics and just wrote it because it was necessary and look how beloved they are. These are just bands to listen to the sound and maybe sing along that's for sure.

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Well I'm ready to get hate but...

 

Korn

Slipnkot

Emmure

A7X

Bullet For My Valentine

A Day To Remember

 

Basically online everyone hate on any Metalcore, Deathcore, Nu Metal, or Pop Metal

but in real life people give me shit for liking some real metal or punk. Like Protest The Hero, Slayer, The Wonder Years, and Anti Flag are bands people in real life give me shit for.

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I like: Slipknot, Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco, 3OH!3, My Chemical Romance, Bullet 4 My Valentine and Linkin Park which are all viewed as uncool where I live but that's probably because I live in a typical Hip Hop Street where you get laughed at if you listen to any kind of rock,metal etc. 3OH!3 are trash but it's catchy.

 

The irony is that most of that stuff is currently uncool amongst people who listen to rock and metal as well.

 

I don't know about MCR, I'm sure they have a fanbase still. I know Linkin Park does. They get hate for being mainstream, but they still have fans at least. As for FOB, well the emo thing is kinda dead now right? And BFMV capitalized on the emo scene too, but by adding a dose of metal. I don't blame bands like them and Avenged for jumping on that concept... but it's not my thing.

 

And finally...

Slipknot is usually the target for most of the nu metal hate. IMO it's for good reason. I have to agree with "most people u know". I really hate that band. I'm not alone... everyone I know hates on Slipknot. Because nobody wants to pin that hate on bands who innovated a new style like Korn and the Deftones. I for one respect the hell out of Korn and the Deftones. They created a new style that was different than everything else out there. They weren't on a mission to create "Nu" metal. They were just being different. But a band like Slipknot is a total derivative of the nu metal scene. And some of the early groups (like the Deftones especially) at least had strong lyricz (no pun intended :lol:). System of a Down isn't my cup of tea musically, but they aren't that bad. Serj is an intelligent guy and their songs had meaning and lyricism to them. So those types of bands don't get hated much, and when they do (SOAD gets some online hate) there is at least counterpoints to show that they had merit. But Slipknot was just mindless, aggressive nonsense with breakdowns and shit. When you have 9 people in your f*ckin band, and not a real musician amongst them... it's no surprise that Slipknot became a laughing stock after their initial wave of popularity had faded.

 

If "every band today sounds like Nickelback", wouldn't that mean Nickelback originated the genre that you hate? At least they were innovators at one point; it's everyone else that gave them a bad name :rolleyes:

They should be hated even more for originating such a dull genre then, plus they aren't good.

 

That's where I disagree, see I can appreciate and respect musical innovation, even if I don't like it. I don't know who started emo, I really don't care who started emo as I hate emo, but whoever did has my respect for doing something different.

 

The thing is, I don't know that Nickelback actually innovated a style. Post-grunge existed before them. Bands like Days of the New and so on. Nickelback just became big arena level popular. So did 3 Doors Down and other remotely similar bands though. So I don't really think Nickelback started any movements in music.

What? Do you honestly think that none of them are talented? As someone said before me, Joey Joridson was awarded as the best drummer several times & Corey's voice is great as it ranges a lot. I'm a huge SlipKnot fan and I always will be and even I'll admit that some of the band members albeit possibly aren't needed. Although they do all play their part and are talented as musicians. They wouldnt have survived for over 10 years if they were talentless.

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I like: Slipknot, Fall Out Boy, Panic at the Disco, 3OH!3, My Chemical Romance, Bullet 4 My Valentine and Linkin Park which are all viewed as uncool where I live but that's probably because I live in a typical Hip Hop Street where you get laughed at if you listen to any kind of rock,metal etc. 3OH!3 are trash but it's catchy.

 

The irony is that most of that stuff is currently uncool amongst people who listen to rock and metal as well.

 

I don't know about MCR, I'm sure they have a fanbase still. I know Linkin Park does. They get hate for being mainstream, but they still have fans at least. As for FOB, well the emo thing is kinda dead now right? And BFMV capitalized on the emo scene too, but by adding a dose of metal. I don't blame bands like them and Avenged for jumping on that concept... but it's not my thing.

 

And finally...

Slipknot is usually the target for most of the nu metal hate. IMO it's for good reason. I have to agree with "most people u know". I really hate that band. I'm not alone... everyone I know hates on Slipknot. Because nobody wants to pin that hate on bands who innovated a new style like Korn and the Deftones. I for one respect the hell out of Korn and the Deftones. They created a new style that was different than everything else out there. They weren't on a mission to create "Nu" metal. They were just being different. But a band like Slipknot is a total derivative of the nu metal scene. And some of the early groups (like the Deftones especially) at least had strong lyricz (no pun intended :lol:). System of a Down isn't my cup of tea musically, but they aren't that bad. Serj is an intelligent guy and their songs had meaning and lyricism to them. So those types of bands don't get hated much, and when they do (SOAD gets some online hate) there is at least counterpoints to show that they had merit. But Slipknot was just mindless, aggressive nonsense with breakdowns and shit. When you have 9 people in your f*ckin band, and not a real musician amongst them... it's no surprise that Slipknot became a laughing stock after their initial wave of popularity had faded.

 

If "every band today sounds like Nickelback", wouldn't that mean Nickelback originated the genre that you hate? At least they were innovators at one point; it's everyone else that gave them a bad name :rolleyes:

They should be hated even more for originating such a dull genre then, plus they aren't good.

 

That's where I disagree, see I can appreciate and respect musical innovation, even if I don't like it. I don't know who started emo, I really don't care who started emo as I hate emo, but whoever did has my respect for doing something different.

 

The thing is, I don't know that Nickelback actually innovated a style. Post-grunge existed before them. Bands like Days of the New and so on. Nickelback just became big arena level popular. So did 3 Doors Down and other remotely similar bands though. So I don't really think Nickelback started any movements in music.

What? Do you honestly think that none of them are talented? As someone said before me, Joey Joridson was awarded as the best drummer several times & Corey's voice is great as it ranges a lot. I'm a huge SlipKnot fan and I always will be and even I'll admit that some of the band members albeit possibly aren't needed. Although they do all play their part and are talented as musicians. They wouldnt have survived for over 10 years if they were talentless.

 

Tell that to Coldplay. Fckin hate them.

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