Guest Fight Me. Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 I know there have been many topics in the past about who's the greatest superstar to have never held a world title, but this is a little different. I was watching the Greatest Stars of the 90s DVD (which is really great, btw) and noticed The Undertaker has never held the Intercontinental nor the United States Championship. That really shocked me, I mean The Undertaker has been a former Royal Rumble winner (the first to win at #30), a former Hardcore Champion, a multiple time Tag Team and World Champion, and a 18-0 undefeated streak at WrestleMania. The Undertaker has pretty much done it all, but he has never held a Intercontinental or United States Championship? After I read this, I started to think what other great superstars have been world champion but have never held that one tag team title or midcard title to become triple crown champion? Another big name that comes to mind is Dave Batista. He was traded to RAW about a year after his debut and became Tag Team Champion with Ric Flair as part of Evolution, but most recently in 2006 with Rey Mysterio and again in 2008 with John Cena. But after he left Evolution and winning the World Heavyweight Championship at WrestleMania 21, he pretty much has stayed in the main event scene. So who do you think is the greatest superstar to have never been triple crown or grand slam champion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attitude Adjusted Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 I can't believe Undertaker isn't one. Batista and John Cena aren't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pherby Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Once you are as big as those guys, theirs no going back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 [quote name='Attitude Adjusted' date='08 April 2010 - 07:13 AM' timestamp='1270736039' post='7212626'] I can't believe Undertaker isn't one. Batista and [b]John Cena[/b] aren't either. [/quote] John Cena was United States Champion. How can you forget that spinner? I actually liked that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pherby Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 [quote name='Be Awesomeâ„¢' date='09 April 2010 - 12:47 AM' timestamp='1270736224' post='7212635'] [quote name='Attitude Adjusted' date='08 April 2010 - 07:13 AM' timestamp='1270736039' post='7212626'] I can't believe Undertaker isn't one. Batista and [b]John Cena[/b] aren't either. [/quote] John Cena was United States Champion. How can you forget that spinner? I actually liked that one. [/quote] I thought US Title doesn't count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attitude Adjusted Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 [quote name='Be Awesomeâ„¢' date='08 April 2010 - 10:17 PM' timestamp='1270736224' post='7212635'] [quote name='Attitude Adjusted' date='08 April 2010 - 07:13 AM' timestamp='1270736039' post='7212626'] I can't believe Undertaker isn't one. Batista and [b]John Cena[/b] aren't either. [/quote] John Cena was United States Champion. How can you forget that spinner? I actually liked that one. [/quote] They don't consider the United States Title. Only the Intercontinental Championship.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Oh, forget it then. Never knew that tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attitude Adjusted Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 [quote name='Be Awesomeâ„¢' date='08 April 2010 - 10:18 PM' timestamp='1270736314' post='7212643'] [quote name='Christopherby.' date='08 April 2010 - 07:18 AM' timestamp='1270736282' post='7212640'] [quote name='Be Awesomeâ„¢' date='09 April 2010 - 12:47 AM' timestamp='1270736224' post='7212635'] [quote name='Attitude Adjusted' date='08 April 2010 - 07:13 AM' timestamp='1270736039' post='7212626'] I can't believe Undertaker isn't one. Batista and [b]John Cena[/b] aren't either. [/quote] John Cena was United States Champion. How can you forget that spinner? I actually liked that one. [/quote] I thought US Title doesn't count? [/quote] Yeah, it does. As long as it's a midcard title in the WWE. [/quote] No... They don't count the U.S Title... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 [quote name='Be Awesomeâ„¢' date='08 April 2010 - 07:18 AM' timestamp='1270736314' post='7212643'] Oh, forget it then. Never knew that tbh. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attitude Adjusted Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 [quote]WWE has yet to declare the WWE United States Championship to be an acceptable substitute for secondary championships in order to complete the Grand Slam or Triple Crown Championships[/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 I think another name you can throw in there is Mick Foley. Former Hardcore, Tag Team, and WWE Champion. Never held the IC title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGD Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 I thought grandslam doesn't exist anymore because there is no European title. As for triple crown I thought any combination of a midcard, tag and world title counted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 [b][quote name='LGD' date='08 April 2010 - 07:22 AM' timestamp='1270736564' post='7212657'] I thought grandslam doesn't exist anymore because there is no European title.[/b] As for triple crown I thought any combination of a midcard, tag and world title counted. [/quote] Yeah, there isn't anymore. But there is in TNA now that they have the Legends/Global Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muur Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Shelton Benjamnin, William Regal, Christian and Goldust need an world title to become one. Undertaker, John Cena, The Big Show and Batista need a intercontinental title to become one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 I think a lot of the WWECW Champions don't count as WWE triple crown champions, since the history goes under ECW. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyC Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 [quote name='Muur' date='08 April 2010 - 09:27 AM' timestamp='1270736869' post='7212671'] Shelton Benjamnin, William Regal, Christian and Goldust need an world title to become one. Undertaker, John Cena, The Big Show and Batista need a intercontinental title to become one. [/quote] Christian seems like he's the only one listed that has a great shot at it. Sorta shocking that Punk and Jeff Hardy are triple crown before Undertaker or Cena, and neither look like they will become one. I thought Show was IC champ at one point? Morrison only needs the World title as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attitude Adjusted Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 [quote name='WWGD?' date='09 April 2010 - 12:03 AM' timestamp='1270742589' post='7212879'] [quote name='Muur' date='08 April 2010 - 09:27 AM' timestamp='1270736869' post='7212671'] Shelton Benjamnin, William Regal, Christian and Goldust need an world title to become one. Undertaker, John Cena, The Big Show and Batista need a intercontinental title to become one. [/quote] Christian seems like he's the only one listed that has a great shot at it. Sorta shocking that Punk and Jeff Hardy are triple crown before Undertaker or Cena, and neither look like they will become one. I thought Show was IC champ at one point? Morrison only needs the World title as well. [/quote] John Cena, Batista and Undertaker obviously doesn't have any chance at all anymore.And no, Big Show wasn't IC champ. He was US champ tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyC Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 [quote name='Attitude Adjusted' date='08 April 2010 - 11:05 AM' timestamp='1270742743' post='7212886'] [quote name='WWGD?' date='09 April 2010 - 12:03 AM' timestamp='1270742589' post='7212879'] [quote name='Muur' date='08 April 2010 - 09:27 AM' timestamp='1270736869' post='7212671'] Shelton Benjamnin, William Regal, Christian and Goldust need an world title to become one. Undertaker, John Cena, The Big Show and Batista need a intercontinental title to become one. [/quote] Christian seems like he's the only one listed that has a great shot at it. Sorta shocking that Punk and Jeff Hardy are triple crown before Undertaker or Cena, and neither look like they will become one. I thought Show was IC champ at one point? Morrison only needs the World title as well. [/quote] John Cena, Batista and Undertaker obviously doesn't have any chance at all anymore. [/quote] I know that o_O. Wow Jeff Hardy is a Grand Slam Champion and Taker won't ever be Triple Crown..what's that tell you about hoq prestigious it really is to have that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowley Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Was Eddie a Grand Slam Champion? Also, what's the difference between, "Grand Slam" and "Triple Crown"? Is Triple Crown just for NWA/TNA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oresama Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 [quote name='Aleister' date='08 April 2010 - 07:01 PM' timestamp='1270749687' post='7213128'] Was Eddie a Grand Slam Champion? Also, what's the difference between, "Grand Slam" and "Triple Crown"? Is Triple Crown just for NWA/TNA?[/quote] Yes Eddie was. To be a Triple Crown Champion you need: World Heavyweight or WWE Intercontinental World Tag Team or WWE Tag Team (obviously both are Unified now) To be a Grand Slam Champion you need: World Heavyweight or WWE Intercontinental European or Hardcore (obviously the people who haven't won the European or Hardcore can't become a Grand Slam now) World Tag Team or WWE Tag Team (obviously both are Unified now) The following are one championship away from being Triple Crown Champions: Batista (Intercontinental) Big Show (Intercontinental) Carlito (World Heavyweight or WWE) Christian (World Heavyweight or WWE) Goldust (World Heavyweight or WWE) John Cena (Intercontinental) John Morrison (World Heavyweight or WWE) Kofi Kingston (World Heavyweight or WWE) Shelton Benjamin (World Heavyweight or WWE) Undertaker (Intercontinental) William Regal (World Heavyweight or WWE) Big Show, Christian, Goldust, Undertaker and William Regal will also become Grand Slam Champions if they win the whatever title they need, Matt Hardy can still be Grand Slam/Triple Crown Champion but he needs the Intercontinental and either the World Heavyweight or WWE Championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion™ Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 [quote name='Attitude Adjusted' date='08 April 2010 - 02:13 PM' timestamp='1270736039' post='7212626'] I can't believe Undertaker isn't one. Batista and John Cena aren't either. [/quote] Cena has been US Champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knight Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 Batista was IC champ.... Never mind that was Flair Owen Hart, Davey Boy Smith and Undertaker.And who says the WWE doesn't recognize the United States Championship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oresama Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 For Grand Slam I've got to say Chris Benoit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Knight Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 ^^^ Benoit has held both IC and US titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oresama Posted April 8, 2010 Report Share Posted April 8, 2010 [quote name='The Knight' date='08 April 2010 - 07:43 PM' timestamp='1270752197' post='7213209'] ^^^ Benoit has held both IC and US titles.[/quote] The US isn't part of the Grand Slam, he was never European or Hardcore Champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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