Matt Morgan Formula now available

[Gazza]

Looking for helpful tips on what to improve on the caw please.

[b]Matt Morgan [/b] Final ? boots/kneepads will be like the red attire

[img]http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t64/Gazza_UK/mmff1.jpg[/img]

Updated white Attire again added and also the black attire 17th December

[img]http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t64/Gazza_UK/mwa1.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t64/Gazza_UK/mba1.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t64/Gazza_UK/mmblueprintcollage.jpg[/img]

[b]Morgan Blueprint Attire[/b] - Any problems please ask in thread

Help pics

[url="http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t64/Gazza_UK/Morganattirehelp.jpg"]Attire[/url]
[url="http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t64/Gazza_UK/morganbth.jpg"]Back Tattoo[/url]
[url="http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t64/Gazza_UK/mm10.jpg"]Face[/url]

Basic Face Template - 3
[b]
*Head*[/b]

Hair - 47/71 - X 83, Y 5, S -11

Head Morphing

Head - H -7, W 11, D 4
Forehead - S 0, H -10, W -8, D 12

[b]*Face*[/b]

Eyes

Eye Type - 1/9 - X 90, Y 16, S 0
Eyelashes - Default
Eyebrows - 20/39 - X 88, Y 0, S 11

Mouth

Lips - 2/17 - X 96, Y -6, S 0
Teeth - Default

Skin

Skin Tone - 7/12 X 89, Y 4, S -5, S 6
Age - 31 ( Do this after applying all make-up's and design )

[b]*Face Morphing*[/b]
Eyebrows: -92, -7, 30, -14
Eyes: 0, -22, -10, 21, 18, -7, -9
Nose: 27, 18, -13, -23, -41, -25, 30, 28
Cheeks: -10, -47, 23, 5
Mouth: 12, -25, -45, -1, 17, 10, -55
Jaw: 84, 61, 12, 13, 81, 73
Ears: 10,19, 25, 18

Height:: 213 cm

*Body Type*
Body Type: -30

[b]Body Morphing-[/b]

Neck: -43, -1, 31
Chest: 0, 7, 9
Shoulders:-56, 20, 0
Abdomen: 11, 5, 17
Waist:0 , 13
Arms: 5, 1, 6
Hands: 8, 4, 9
Legs: 10, -5, 0
Feet: 5, 3, 2

Definition: 4/9

[b]*Layers*[/b]
1) Definition: 4/9
2) Skin Tone 7/12 X 89, Y 4, S -5, S 6
3) Eye Type 1/9 ( Middle Selection ) X 90, Y 16, S 0
4) Eyebrows 20/39 X 88, Y 0, S 11
5) Eyelashes 1/15
6) Lips 2/17 X 96, Y -6, S 0
7) Teeth : Default
8) Hair 47/71 - X 83, Y 5, S -11
9) Underwear - 4/23 - Select bigger ones - X -100 , Y -11, S -15
[b]For layer 10 go to Head/Face then click Tattoos and then Symbols ( Look at Help pic for placement )[/b]
10) Tattoos - 146/149 -2nd Largest Horizontal,2nd Largest Vertical X 94, Y -66, S 32, A 20
11) Make-Up - 28/29 -X 89, Y -28, S 0, A 88
12) Knee Pads - 1/16 - X -100, Y -100, S -78, A 100
13) Facial Hair/ Side Burns - 16/17 - X 87, Y 0, S 12, A 100
14) Facial Hair/ Templates - 12/27 - X 86, Y 0, S -11, A 86
15 ) Facial Hair/Templates - 13/27 - X 86, Y 0, S 5, A 100
16) Facial Hair/Templates - 26/27 - X 83, Y -10, S -14, A 100
17) Boots/Shoes - 1/37 - Large ones - X -25, Y -100, S -15
[b]For layer 18 go to Body,Tattoos,Designs,Arms,Left Arm[/b]
18) Tattoo/Arm - 95/148 - X 46, Y 4, S -83, A 65
[b]For Layers 19 -26 use the help pictures provided,this is for the Back Tattoo[/b]
19) WWE logo - 3/102 - Smallest Vertical,2nd Smallest Horizontal,Rotate x2 - X 35, Y 55, S -100, A 6
20) WWE logo - 3/102 - Smallest Vertical,2nd Smallest Horizontal,Rotate x2 - X 35, Y 55, S -100, A 6
21) Design - 98/149 - Smallest Vertical,2nd Smallest Horizontal - X 83, Y -47, S -35, A 9
22) Design - 98/149 - Smallest Vertical,2nd Smallest Horizontal,Rotate Once - X 83, Y -47, S -35, A 9
23) Design - 113/149 - 2nd Largest Vertical,Largest Horizontal - X 93, Y -13, S -23, A 2
24) Design - 118/149 - 2nd Smallest Vertical,2nd Smallest Horizontal,Rotate x2 - X 30, Y -5, S -61, A 8
25) Design - 138/149 - 2nd Smallest Vertical,2nd Smallest Horizontal - X 86, Y -50, S 38, A 100
26) Sign - 2/7 - Row 2,1st Across - Smallest Vertical,2nd Largest Horizontal,Rotate Once - X 30, Y - 65, S -48, A - 12
27 ) Make-Up - 18/29 - X 93, Y -25, S 0, A 100
[b]For Layers 28 - 32 use the Help Pictures provided,this is for the Attire ( Underwear ),ClIck to Edit Underwear [/b]
28) WWE logo - 68/102 - Largest Vertical,Largest Horizontal,Rotate x2 - X 100, Y 0, S 0, A 78
29) WWE logo - 68/102 - Largest Vertical,Largest Horizontal - X 100, Y 0, S 0, A 78
30) Design - 142/149 - 2nd Smallest Vertical,2nd Largest Horizontal - X -18, Y 0, S -11, A 100
31) Design - 81/149 - 2nd Smallest Vertical, 2nd Smallest Horizontal,Rotate x2 - X - 18, Y -100, S 59, A 100
32) Design - 81/149 - 2nd Smallest Vertical, 2nd Smallest Horizontal,Rotate x2 - X - 18, Y -100, S 59, A 100

Name: Matt Morgan
Nickname:Blueprint
Nickname Placement: Prefix
HUD Name: Matt Morgan
Announcer Introduction:Matthew
Hometown:Connecticut
Weightclass:Super Heavyweight
Crowd Reaction:Bad
Show:Free Agent ?

Crowd signs - You decide

[b]News regarding formula[/b]
Other Attires will be available on Wednesday, sorry about this cause Im a bit busy at the moment

[JClemons]

Very Nice. Gazza. I know you from WF. Haha. Anyways. I can see Goldberg in the face. Somewhat. I just cannot put my finger on what's wrong with him. Matt Morgan. Hmm. I can't see him. They are both very good. I probably can't see Morgan because I'm used to his TNA look and WWE Studder gimmick. Nice start though Bro.

[Spinebuster_94]

I like morgan, maybe a different hair, more eyebrow angle and a different skin tone

I'm not sure about Goldberg

[The Innovator of Violence]

The Matt Morgan Caw is amazing wil you be posting how to create it? is it on Ps3 or 360 as i have Ps3

[Gio The Don]

If it's in the PS3 section then it's on PS3

Looking good Gazza. I'll come back with suggestions on Morgan later cause he looks really good but it could be better imo.

[Sandman!â„¢]

i think morgans hair is too light, and goldberg needs to be a bit darker. awesome caws to start though

[Pac.]

[b]Goldberg:[/b]
Bring His Eyes Further Apart.
Change The Eye Type.
Blend & Turn Down Alpha Of The Cheek Make-Up.
Use A Design To Cover The Space's In The Facial Hair.
[b]8/10[/b]

[b]Matt Morgan[/b]
Blend & Turn Down Alpha Of The Cheek Make-Up.
Make The Hair more Orange.
Increase Head Width.
Change Hair.
[b]8.7/10[/b]

[Daedryon]

[b]Goldberg[/b]
Smaller eyes, better beard, other than that, pretty good

[b]Matt Morgan[/b]
Ugh, where to start....frankly, I'll be honest, it looks nothing like him. I'm trying to think of what to change to make it look like him but I'm stumped.

[Gio The Don]

Right. I'm back lol.

I'd make the brows thinner on Matt Morgan and also either bring them closer down to his eyes or raise the eyes up to his brows. If you decide to raise the eyes to the brows though I think you'll have to re-do the nose height although I think you got his nose down to nearly perfect imo.

I'd also add a bit of age to him as his skin tone looks too smooth. You could try a different skin but I like the one he has now. The 2 lines on either side of his nose is bugging me a bit. If you got any layers I'd use a design on each side of the nose to try to cover them up.

IMO, darken the facial hair & hair style aswell.

He's looking good so far though. Looking forward to seeing an attire for him.

[Spinebuster_94]

Here is some refs for Morgan:

[img]http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm201/jpinel_album/Reference%20Pics/MattMorgan.jpg[/img]

Hope these help

[Vaffanculo]

I really like these both. I would go with the suggestions Gio posted. Overall pretty good job .

[brackett4]

Best Goldberg so far. Matt Morgan is looking sharp as well.

[Gazza]

Spinebuster thanks for those ref,1 or 2 of them helped me alot with the caw.

Gio Gio and Apac thanks for the tips, tweaked the face alot,hopefully it is better

Update for Morgan in post 1

[Guest GoreMachine]

I like what ur doing with matt will u be doing the back tatoo?

[classiq.]

I like the hair you used on [b]Matt Morgan[/b] before the update, but the colouration is better on the new one. If you can, try to mesh the two together like that. Other than that, I think both CAWs are amazing but I will be looking forward to the Matt Morgan formula the most.

Thanks for sharing!

[Gazza]

[quote name='GoreMachine' post='5391707' date='Dec 3 2008, 01:10 AM']I like what ur doing with matt will u be doing the back tatoo?[/quote]

Thanks, hopefully I will be doing it.


[quote name='AiЯ SaBU' post='5393087' date='Dec 3 2008, 05:52 AM']I like the hair you used on [b]Matt Morgan[/b] before the update, but the colouration is better on the new one. If you can, try to mesh the two together like that. Other than that, I think both CAWs are amazing but I will be looking forward to the Matt Morgan formula the most.

Thanks for sharing![/quote]

I will post a picture using the previous hair but with the colour of the updated hair and see if that works out ok.But the Goldberg caw Im tempted to start it over again cause I dont like the nose for him and tweaking it to how I want it to look is becoming a nightmare,but Im undecided on it.

[Gio The Don]

Matt Morgan looks alot better now man. I like it. There's something with the cheeks now imo. I'd look into that and also make his skin tone more orange and a bit darker so that he has tanned skin

[quote]I like what ur doing with matt will u be doing the back tatoo?[/quote]
I'd actually like to see that although I doubt there will be enough layers

[WolfgangJT]

[quote name='Gazza' post='5393746' date='Dec 3 2008, 08:13 AM'][quote name='GoreMachine' post='5391707' date='Dec 3 2008, 01:10 AM']I like what ur doing with matt will u be doing the back tatoo?[/quote]

Thanks, hopefully I will be doing it.


[quote name='Aiß SaBU' post='5393087' date='Dec 3 2008, 05:52 AM']I like the hair you used on [b]Matt Morgan[/b] before the update, but the colouration is better on the new one. If you can, try to mesh the two together like that. Other than that, I think both CAWs are amazing but I will be looking forward to the Matt Morgan formula the most.

Thanks for sharing![/quote]

But the Goldberg caw Im tempted to start it over again cause I dont like the nose for him and tweaking it to how I want it to look is becoming a nightmare,but Im undecided on it.
[/quote]


Before you do...copy it. Hope this doesn't strike you bad, but to be completely honest, and I'm sure some may agree after I say this....it actually looks like a decent direction at Keiji Mutoh...especially in the 2nd shot (the angled one). Would just need some changes, but I seriously see a good direction toward him in that. Might be an idea to try if you like using a caw of him.

So you can see for yourself:
[img]http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4197/bgcgn7.jpg[/img]

IMO, that'd be a good starting point at Mutoh...but that's me.

Morgan...getting a little better, but needs a major overhaul on the head shaping...his face shaping is wider than what you have.. You skinnyfied him....IMO, I'd widen the face overall more (or actually, bring the overall head height down), then resize the inside widths back down so the whole shape looks wider with smaller inside parts (ie, nose width will need to come down, and IMO, eyes need to be much smaller)....then the jaw outline needs to come out more (should look fairly level with the cheekbone/upper cheek, and bring the jaw upperline up too, so it makes the jaw look wider and more lower set rounded. Compare to the pic below.

[url="http://www.mariekennedy.com/IM_A0010-1.JPG.jpg"]http://www.mariekennedy.com/IM_A0010-1.JPG.jpg[/url]

[.Taker 21]

Morgan update looks awesome man

[Gazza]

WolfgangJT, When I posted Goldberg I actually thought that it may look similar to someone else but I was not too sure who.But looking at those pictures of Keji Mutoh I can see why a few changes could lead in to that direction but I dont think the nose shape can be done using the template I have.But I will give it a go and see where it leads.I can remember Keji only been done by the decent caw makers since 06 and the one I remember the most I think it was Redrum who did it.


About Morgan,I will make the changes you have mentioned.Thanks for that I appreciate it.......but I dont understand what you meant when you put "then resize the inside widths back down so the whole shape looks wider with smaller inside parts "

Gio - Goi â„¢ I will edit the skin colour when I update it in a bit.

[WillyZi]

Fix Goldberg cheek make-up, it looks to bright

[Gazza]

New update in post 1 added.

[Here comes the pain]

yeah id say make the forehead smaller so the hairline goes closer towards his eyes

[Gio The Don]

I prefer the jaw shape in the old one tbh. I think I would have just make the neck wider instead of increasing jaw outline/upper line.

[WolfgangJT]

[quote name='Gazza' post='5394856' date='Dec 3 2008, 04:25 PM']WolfgangJT, When I posted Goldberg I actually thought that it may look similar to someone else but I was not too sure who.But looking at those pictures of Keji Mutoh I can see why a few changes could lead in to that direction but I dont think the nose shape can be done using the template I have.But I will give it a go and see where it leads.I can remember Keji only been done by the decent caw makers since 06 and the one I remember the most I think it was Redrum who did it.


About Morgan,I will make the changes you have mentioned.Thanks for that I appreciate it.......but I dont understand what you meant when you put "then resize the inside widths back down so the whole shape looks wider with smaller inside parts "

Gio - Goi â„¢ I will edit the skin colour when I update it in a bit.[/quote]

ON that, it means that when you squish the head down by lowering the height or widening the width, the nose, eyes, etc go wider with it, so you'd have to bring their width settings back down to compensate so that you end up with the same look and spacings on the inside of the face area, but a wider outer outlining. Hope that makes sense.

And the Mutoh you may remember, depending on how far back you go, might be Zurick's (which he made in SvR06 and again in SvR07).

[quote name='Gio - Goi â„¢' post='5398340' date='Dec 4 2008, 12:55 PM']I prefer the jaw shape in the old one tbh. I think I would have just make the neck wider instead of increasing jaw outline/upper line.[/quote]
He's having to correct having the face too thin as a whole, so it's gonna take a few times to get it all worked out. For Morgan though, his jaw and face is quite wide....more than what Gazza originally had. The old one wasn't no where near wide enough...but I will agree for the new, the jaw shape on the lower end of the jaw was better on the older....the way to fix though....he has the chin too short now. lengthen the chin (jaw height). Here's a good shot you can base on.
[img]http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/696/43936921ym1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9704/morgan1ri2.png[/img]