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Goldberg CAW


Chooka_75

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This is my first CAW attempt...and who else but The Man...Goldberg!

Let me know what you guys think. If you like it then i'll put the formula in the CAW template and post it....Cheers.

Well sorry about that, for some reason, i couldn't put the pics in the post. Can someone tell me what i need to do?

I thought i could just copy and paste??? I then tried to upload through imageshack but it didn't work...what am i doing wrong?
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Well i'll be stuffed if i can work out how to actually get a picture on this post but here are the links for them anyway. Have a look and let me know wat you think...

I know you can get pics on here, will someone be kind enough to tell me how i do it (in steps)...

[url="http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2uq2ght&s=4"]http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2uq2ght&s=4[/url]

[url="http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=35i0ps8&s=4"]http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=35i0ps8&s=4[/url]

[url="http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=qqyij9&s=4"]http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=qqyij9&s=4[/url]
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[quote name='GoreMachine' post='5270209' date='Nov 8 2008, 06:33 PM']The facial hair the mouth and the outa line Jaw needs alot of work,and change the skin tone it looks like crap with that skin tone.[/quote]

OK cheers mate. How do yo suggest i improve the things you mention?

FYI i used about 6 pics of him from from different angles. The jaw is close, the mouth could be improved but each pic you see of him is different so its difficult to get it right. The facial hair could be improved IMO by maybe putting in another layer to make the grey a bit more patchy??? What you think? Also what skin tone do you suggest? I like the wrinkles on the forehead in this one...
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Not really seeing much, or any Goldberg in there. Giving him a beard, making him bald and making him look angry doesn't make it look like Goldberg. Go look for some ref' pics of Goldberg when he's making a normal face. The game will do the expressions for you, so you shouldn't make them look angry in CAW mode.
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[quote name='The D' post='5271210' date='Nov 9 2008, 12:24 AM']Not really seeing much, or any Goldberg in there. Giving him a beard, making him bald and making him look angry doesn't make it look like Goldberg. Go look for some ref' pics of Goldberg when he's making a normal face. The game will do the expressions for you, so you shouldn't make them look angry in CAW mode.[/quote]


WTF?

Goldberg has a shaved bald head! He almost always has stubble as well as his Goatee, and when he is wrestling, he is a mean looking Mo Fo'....In fact, IMO he's a mean looking bastard all the time! LOL...

I have taken some of the advice onboard and i've ignored some. But the updated version is better. Less frown, same skin tone but adjusted a little, better goatee with a star design put onto the goatee to give it a more patchy look, fixed the mouth a bit by adjusting lip thickness and matched the width of the mouth to as many reference shots as i care to count. Trust me guys, the updated version is better, but i wasn't really that far off with this 1st attempt. The Jaw has had some work too...not much though. These shots are on a bit of an angle so it may be a bit misleading. I'll get some shots of the newer version and post them soon.

Most of the Goldberg CAWS last year were shithouse, i tried em out but thought i could do better myself this year. It's my 1st originally created CAW ever and i'm hooked (very time consuming aren't they...LOL). I want this to be one of the best Goldberg CAWS out there, so with your feedback, it will be.

Just dont tell me there is no Goldberg in this CAW...look at my avatar...
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[url="http://ecwfrenchtribute.free.fr/HTLM/Photos/Photos_B/Bill_Goldberg/Goldberg_-_William_Scott_Goldberg_01.jpg"]http://ecwfrenchtribute.free.fr/HTLM/Photo...Goldberg_01.jpg[/url]




[url="http://www.worldchampionshipwrestling.com/images/goldberg.jpg"]http://www.worldchampionshipwrestling.com/...es/goldberg.jpg[/url]





[url="http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4491/56084519zd1.jpg"]http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4491/56084519zd1.jpg[/url]


currently your caw is too tan so lighten it up maybe by 5 or 6 clicks on the shading side of things. as for being Mean I agree Goldberg is a mean sob when wrestling however here's the problem: You made the Brows 2 mean by default in a natural state and I'm it won't mesh come game play time because if the game itself follows the same pattern as svr has up until 09 the game play itself enhances that mean pissed off sob feature that Goldberg is known for. Take it or leave it that's just my advice but personally I'd consider it and then compare to the refs I added
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Cheers Mate.

I have taken yoour advice. Used your top picture as a reference this time. Changed his Skin tone, eybrows less angled and tred to improve the jawline a little. Also shortened the height of his nose and gave it more angle (I think i had the nose too long in reference to his ears and pointed down too much).

I'll post some pics soon. Let me know what you think. Do you guys think that the body and attire is ok in the original pics?

Cheers Mate.

I have taken your advice. Used your top picture as a reference this time. Changed his Skin tone, eybrows less angled and tred to improve the jawline a little. Also shortened the height of his nose and gave it more angle (I think i had the nose too long in reference to his ears and pointed down too much).

I'll post some pics soon. Let me know what you think. Do you guys think that the body and attire is ok in the original pics?
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Ok Guys. After submitting my first version, the fans have spoken and, it wasn't all that good. So, with that in mind, i have taken th advice of you guys and improved certain aspects of the Goldberg CAW. Including;

Shaved head, not a bald head.
Better nose, not as long (height) and more angle on tip, more nostril width.
Fixed up the jawline.
Changed eyebrows (totally), and new angle, not frowning as much.
Fixed the goatee (looks a lot better IMO)
Eyes are changed to reflect the top pic in "stacymikeyboyspost", well as close as i cold get them.
Changed Sin tone...no longer the vertical wrinkles on forehead.
Makeup around the eyes - on the outer part of eyes you can see a skin fold on the ref pic.
Re-shaped head height and width, and Forhead height and width

So with all that said, i give you my GOLDBERG CAW V2.0

[img]http://i37.tinypic.com/2pzlelj.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i38.tinypic.com/2liiuy8.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i38.tinypic.com/2yn4fmc.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i35.tinypic.com/4ilp1t.jpg[/img]

Ok Let me know what you think. IMO ths is heaps better than the first version. I'll definitely update the Caw Formula if you guys think its worth it with this version. Can you rate it out of 10 for me?...just like to know on a scale what people think...

Cheers.
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I think the skin tone change color wise looks much better and I think I get what you were trying with his hair style but I'm not so sure it looks good maybe try lessening the transparency on that or try for a straight up bald head. Also if you take notice to the eye Goldberg's a light blue almost hazel green mixed where as your caw's eye color comes across as a tiny bit 2 dark. I think it's better by far but still could use some basic tweaks in those areas to poilish out the rough spots but definitely has a whole lot of potential also try taking roughly 5 clicks off the coloring on the brow so it's slightly less dark. Position and thickness look about right in my honest opinion. Great update . :D
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Cheers mate, i think its a big improvement too. I've taken on board what you said about the eyebrows, i'll make them a little lighter. I think i need to narrow the head a touch more too. It still looks a little wide fr my liking. I also am a little stumped with he hair. There is no "Alpha transparency guage on the haistyle so all i can do is tweak the X and Y and the Shade. I'll try a bit more, but yeah, i might even go back to a bald head. His eye colour will be lightened up a touch too, good suggestion.

Another thing that has me stumped is the top lip. If you notice on the Goldberg Ref Pic i used (your 1st pic back up a bit on this thread), his top lip has an indentation in the middle. I just cant figure this out. Any suggestions? I have used all my layers but i mig be able to delete a layer from the goatee.

One more thing. Do you like the attire or do you think there is still some work to be done there too. IMO i've nailed it but feedbck but would be appreciated. Also, as it stands currently, give me a rating out of 10....just for interest sake... Cheers man, you've been a great help (with the posting of the pics too, much apreciated).
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