the animal BATISTA formula posted

[im the man]

here is my first try at batista plz tell what you think it has been updated now i am making the 4th update.
and maybe final update.

4th update:

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FORMULA

Head
Height: 40
Width: 100
Depth: 100

Forehead
Size: -20
Height: -63
Width: 50
Depth: -44

Face Morphing

Eyebrows
y-axis: -49
thickness: -35
Depth: 28
Angle: 26

Eyes
Size: -23
Height: -14
Width: -21
Y-Axis: -91
X-Axis: 0
Depth: 73
Angle: 13

Nose
Size: 30
Height: 65
Width: 27
length: 14
Nostril Height: 8
Nostril Width: -28
Depth: -20
Angle: 21

Cheek
Size:52
Y-Axis: -100
X-Axis: -16
Depth: 18

Mouth
Height: 30
Thickness: -59
Width: -51
Depth: -33
Upper Lip: -100
Lower Lip: -9
Angle: -100

Jaw
Height: -14
Width: -30
Depth: 39
Outterline: 18
Upperline: 61
Thickness: 100

Ears
Size: 100
Angle 1: -23
Angle 2: 71
Shape: 50

Skin Age
46

Skin Tone
5/12
Color
X: 88 Y: 3 Shade: -17 Specular: 60

BODY MORPH
Neck
Height: -10
Width: 7
Depth: 100

Chest
Height: 22
Width: 19
Depth: 74

Shoulders
Height: -100
Width: 100
Depth: -18

Abs
Height: 42
Width: 33
Depth: 26

Waist
Width: 51
Depth: 100

Arms
Length: 99
Width: 42
Depth: 10

Hands
Length: 85
Width: 100
Depth: 57

Legs
Length: 44
Width: 11
Depth: 3

Feet
Length: 57
Width: 34
Depth: 25

Body Type
-61

Definition
3/9

all the layers will be on later.

[TBRM]

Uhm, change the colours of the back and shoulder tattoos.

[im the man]

[quote name='#1 Kane Fan' post='5105702' date='Oct 9 2008, 04:56 PM']Uhm, change the colours of the back and shoulder tattoos.[/quote]


oh ok than thanks for the advice

[RockstarAC]

[img]http://i38.tinypic.com/dlge87.jpg[/img]

2 obvious points strike me straight away

1) he looks like a little boy .... skin aging and wrinkles - dont be scared to experament (you can cover wrinkles with design 103/141 and reduce alpha to make them show a little in one place and not cover them in other areas to make them look deeper
2) tattoos look like body paint ... use the alpha system and make em darker


EDIT - rest of suggestions added

[list]
[*]triangle on forehead looks bad ... granted its your caw but would a hair style like in my refs not give a better finish? either that of find better hair imo.
[*]eyes ears and nose i love so well done there
[*]batista has quite distinctive nose to mouth marks - its just not him with out them
[*]lips are thinner
[*]top lip has more shape to it (pointier)
[*]jaw should be wider ... i wouldnt make shin go any lower either
[*]jaw outline also must be wider
[*]you need some low alpha stubble to rugged him up a little (remember my little boy comment)
[*]id prefer to see some real hair used for the beard (even if you combine it with a design for texture... also remember you can make it larger and cover it with designs)
[*]as for tats see earlier comment .... darken and lower alpha dramatically... i like the shape of arm tats.
[/list]

i seem to have a feeling your quite new to this and you havnt been exposed to all the different techniques there are to be used... try to experament and its not against the rules to see how other people do something for insperation.... but if u do copy something exact do give credit.

[OMD.]

Its solid... i'll be back with some suggestions tommorow cause i am really tired.

[fivestarpny018]

make his jaw bigger

[im the man]

[quote name='RockstarAC' post='5107497' date='Oct 10 2008, 05:29 AM'][img]http://i38.tinypic.com/dlge87.jpg[/img]

2 obvious points strike me straight away

1) he looks like a little boy .... skin aging and wrinkles - dont be scared to experament (you can cover wrinkles with design 103/141 and reduce alpha to make them show a little in one place and not cover them in other areas to make them look deeper
2) tattoos look like body paint ... use the alpha system and make em darker


EDIT - rest of suggestions added

[list]
[*]triangle on forehead looks bad ... granted its your caw but would a hair style like in my refs not give a better finish? either that of find better hair imo.
[*]eyes ears and nose i love so well done there
[*]batista has quite distinctive nose to mouth marks - its just not him with out them
[*]lips are thinner
[*]top lip has more shape to it (pointier)
[*]jaw should be wider ... i wouldnt make shin go any lower either
[*]jaw outline also must be wider
[*]you need some low alpha stubble to rugged him up a little (remember my little boy comment)
[*]id prefer to see some real hair used for the beard (even if you combine it with a design for texture... also remember you can make it larger and cover it with designs)
[*]as for tats see earlier comment .... darken and lower alpha dramatically... i like the shape of arm tats.
[/list]

i seem to have a feeling your quite new to this and you havnt been exposed to all the different techniques there are to be used... try to experament and its not against the rules to see how other people do something for insperation.... but if u do copy something exact do give credit.[/quote]

hey thanks i will do that thanks for your coments i will fix those up right now


[quote name='RockerRC' post='5107688' date='Oct 10 2008, 05:58 AM']make his jaw bigger[/quote]

i will do thanks for your help

[quote name='OneManDynasty' post='5107514' date='Oct 10 2008, 05:31 AM']Its solid... i'll be back with some suggestions tommorow cause i am really tired.[/quote]

oh alright thanks man i like ur advice it comes in handy

[RockstarAC]

please fix ur signature lol

[OMD.]

Ok man here are some suggestions. Work on the facial hair. Add some facial hair and cover it up with designs. But before you do it... add face paint 55 or 56. Work on the hairline and on the hair. Make the hair darker and try to rework the hair cause the design you are using at the moment is bad tbh. Change the face skin and work on the nosebridge and on the nostrils. Add width to the nosebridge and make the nostrils abit thinner. Work on the skin aging. In my opinion he looks way too young. Change the lip style and make them abit darker. Decrease some height on the head and add a bit width. Work on the jaw. In my opinion its a bit too big. Add some facial hair and decrease the alpha til 30.... it should look like stubbles. Work abit on the outline. Also work on the upperline. The cheeks are abit too round in my opinion. Work abit on the eyebrows. The mouth is too width and the underlip is abit too thin. Add 5 clicks to the underlip and lessen width on the whole mouth. Lessen abit height on the eyebrows. Decrease the height of the eyes abit.

[url="http://i35.tinypic.com/kexohj.png"]"The Animal" Batista[/url]

[eclipse.]

not bad bro i like it

[GTS.]

looks canny good man, solid start i see batista btw what template did you start with???

[OMD.]

I forgot to suggest the tattoos etc. Nevermind here are some suggestions. The tattoos are quite good. Make them really dark and lessen the alpha on 25 or 30. I would also suggest work abit on the left arm tattoo. I can't see red in it.

Here are some ref pictures of his tattoos. I know they aren't the best but they are very useful in my opinion.

[url="http://i35.tinypic.com/10sggoz.png"]Back Tattoo[/url]
[url="http://i33.tinypic.com/295zg92.png"]Right Arm Tattoo[/url]
[url="http://i33.tinypic.com/jp7gr4.png"]Left Arm Tattoo[/url]
[url="http://i33.tinypic.com/mrpgnr.png"]Abdomen Tattoo[/url]

[im the man]

[quote name='OMD.' post='5112242' date='Oct 11 2008, 04:51 AM']I forgot to suggest the tattoos etc. Nevermind here are some suggestions. The tattoos are quite good. Make them really dark and lessen the alpha on 25 or 30. I would also suggest work abit on the left arm tattoo. I can't see red in it.

Here are some ref pictures of his tattoos. I know they aren't the best but they are very useful in my opinion.

[url="http://i35.tinypic.com/10sggoz.png"]Back Tattoo[/url]
[url="http://i33.tinypic.com/295zg92.png"]Right Arm Tattoo[/url]
[url="http://i33.tinypic.com/jp7gr4.png"]Left Arm Tattoo[/url]
[url="http://i33.tinypic.com/mrpgnr.png"]Abdomen Tattoo[/url][/quote]


hey thanks man the suggestions are great i will get to work on them right away and thanks for the ref pics they r great thanks man

[OMD.]

The update looks abit better but add age to him. 20 or 30 clicks. Work on the facial hair. Scrap this design you use at the moment and add facial hair to him and cover it up with some designs. It should look like it does at the moment but just as facial hair not designs... sorry for bad english i can't really discribe it.

[RockstarAC]

[img]http://i34.tinypic.com/25842o2.jpg[/img]

will edit

you have made some good improvements
:ot: including your sig

id like you to do an experament ..... go and change your skin aging to something like 30, then cycle through the skin tones, then observe the wrinkle set which resenble his lips and eyes.
then once you get the correct shape correct reduce skin aging ... and IF theres an error for example unwanted forehead lines .... cover em with design 103.
his skins just looking too young

[list]
[*]back tat.... add more green and darken - reduce alpha
[*]top lip looks unchanged
[*]think you need an eyebrow with more dence hair
[*]would encourage facial hair .... even if its just stubble if your keep to keep your design
[*]widen the underwear design
[*]imo your hairs taken a turn for the worsed? its never been that thick and that short at same time i dont think - what hair are yo going for?
[/list]

i think above changes alone will help out muchly

[im the man]

[quote name='RockstarAC' post='5116767' date='Oct 12 2008, 02:45 AM'][img]http://i34.tinypic.com/25842o2.jpg[/img]

will edit

you have made some good improvements
:ot: including your sig

id like you to do an experament ..... go and change your skin aging to something like 30, then cycle through the skin tones, then observe the wrinkle set which resenble his lips and eyes.
then once you get the correct shape correct reduce skin aging ... and IF theres an error for example unwanted forehead lines .... cover em with design 103.
his skins just looking too young

[list]
[*]back tat.... add more green and darken - reduce alpha
[*]top lip looks unchanged
[*]think you need an eyebrow with more dence hair
[*]would encourage facial hair .... even if its just stubble if your keep to keep your design
[*]widen the underwear design
[*]imo your hairs taken a turn for the worsed? its never been that thick and that short at same time i dont think - what hair are yo going for?
[/list]

i think above changes alone will help out muchly[/quote]


thank you very much for saying i done some improvements i will keep working on it and i liked my sig thank you very much lol


[quote name='OMD.' post='5115214' date='Oct 11 2008, 07:06 PM']The update looks abit better but add age to him. 20 or 30 clicks. Work on the facial hair. Scrap this design you use at the moment and add facial hair to him and cover it up with some designs. It should look like it does at the moment but just as facial hair not designs... sorry for bad english i can't really discribe it. [/quote]


dont worry about ur english man i understand what ur trying to say thanks for the advice i will get back to work on it man

[Guest GoreMachine]

Very much improvment on what i seen on the first pic id say work on the jaw its way toooooooo wide and too much hight aslo.another thing is work on the eyes a bit more but very nicely improvement i can see it in him.

[im the man]

[quote name='GoreMachine' post='5120739' date='Oct 12 2008, 03:29 PM']Very much improvment on what i seen on the first pic id say work on the jaw its way toooooooo wide and too much hight aslo.another thing is work on the eyes a bit more but very nicely improvement i can see it in him.[/quote]


thanks alot i will get right to work on that thanks for ur comments im updating him in a min so i hope u can tell me what you think of this update.

[OMD.]

Another good update. I can see Dave in the face good job. Lessen alpha on the tattoos and work abit on the jaw.

[im the man]

[quote name='OMD.' post='5120938' date='Oct 12 2008, 05:53 PM']Another good update. I can see Dave in the face good job. Lessen alpha on the tattoos and work abit on the jaw.[/quote]

ok i will get to work on that in a min thanks for the comments

[OMD.]

Add more age and go back to the jaw you had before (2.update). It was in my opinion really good.

[Sandman!â„¢]

body morphing is gr8 make the design on back of pants white.

[im the man]

[quote name='nWo Sandman!' post='5120997' date='Oct 12 2008, 06:23 PM']body morphing is gr8 make the design on back of pants white.[/quote]

oh ok man thanks for the comments will do

[quote name='OMD.' post='5120979' date='Oct 12 2008, 06:16 PM']Add more age and go back to the jaw you had before (2.update). It was in my opinion really good.[/quote]


alright will go back to the last jaw thanks for all your help so far

[OMD.]

The update looks way better. Glad to see how great you are improving. Add some facial hair.... and make them like stubbles. You can make them like stubbles with low alpha. Add facial hair above the mouth with low alpha. Decrease width on the mouth. Make the hair abit lighter. Decrease alpha on the hair... not sure if you can . Make the ears abit bigger. Maybe 5 clicks. Decrease alpha on the facial hair. Work abit on the outline.

[im the man]

[quote name='OMD.' post='5127401' date='Oct 13 2008, 11:01 PM']The update looks way better. Glad to see how great you are improving. Add some facial hair.... and make them like stubbles. You can make them like stubbles with low alpha. Add facial hair above the mouth with low alpha. Decrease width on the mouth. Make the hair abit lighter. Decrease alpha on the hair... not sure if you can . Make the ears abit bigger. Maybe 5 clicks. Decrease alpha on the facial hair. Work abit on the outline.[/quote]


i will get right to work on that. so alot of stubbel lol and work on the outline and the ears have to be bigger lol