xEpy0n Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Credit to Ravnos and Ricasho for giving me some of the moves. thanks, guys! Standard Actions Ring-In: Jumping 2 Ring-Out: Normal Taunt: Hold Up 2, Come On!, Eddie Guerrero 1, Christian 2 Fighting Stance: Outlaw Walking Motion: Normal Running Motion: Normal Standing Strike Attacks Dropkick 2 Toe Kick 1 Back Chop 4 Enzuigiri People's Punch 1 Elbow Smash 2 Grapple Moves Clean Arm Drag 3 DDT 14 Scoop Slam 5 Snapmare 2 Headlock Takeover Dirty Reverse Atomic Drop Low Blow 5 Head Pound Eye Poke 4 Head is Struck Submission Hammer Lock Arm Wrench 2 Headlock 4 Leg Lock 2 Sleeper Hold 1 Moves 1: Luchadore: Mysterio Moves (Good set-up for either the Piledriver or the Sunset Flip Pin 3) Cruiserweight Moves 5 Back Suplex 1 Neckbreaker 18 Hurracanrana 2 (Rewind Hurricanrana) Moves 2: Old School: European Uppercut Sidebuster 2 Scoop slam 5 Hurracanrana 8 Russian Leg Sweep 1 Moves 3: Speed: Shining Wizaed 5 (Single Leg Dropkick) Snapmare & Dropkick 1 Neckbreaker 10 Super Neckbreaker Pin Suplex 12 Grapple Attack: Grapple Punch 1 Grapple Body Attack 1 Grapple Elbow Strike 1 Grapple From Behind: Abdominal Stretch 1 School Boy Roll Up Backbreaker 6 Throw Back (Snap Neckbreaker) Cruiserweight Moves 2 Hurricanrana 6 German Suplex 4 Backbreaker 4 Belly to Back 2 Russian Leg Sweep 2 Top of Cell Attack: It Thrusts Down x4 Ground: Strike Attacks: Angry Stomp Elbow Drop 1 Leg Drop 2 Grapple Moves: Back Suplex 9 (Sitout Wheelbarrow Facebuster) Cross Arm Stretch Camel Clutch 3 (Inverted Facelock) Leg Breaker 2 Leg Lock 10 Shapshooter 1 Corner: Strike Attacks: Turnbuckle Clothesline 1 Turnbuckle Kick Combo Knee Attack 1 Grapple Moves: Sunset Flip Pin 4 Clothesline 25 Mudhole Stomping 1 Hanging in Reverse (O' Canada Nut Squash) Superplex 1 Pushes Turnbuckle Grapple from Behind: Illegal Pin Tie to Tree of Woe (O' Canada Nut Squash) Forearm to Back Dropkick & School Boy Pin Lucha DDT Rope: Groggy on ropes: Slingshot Suplex Rebound Attack: Running Calf Kick Running Leg Drop Vaulting Body Press 2 Diving out of ring attack: Diving Through Ropes Diving: Diving Attack vs. Standing Opp.: Missile Dropkick Diving Hurracanrana Diving Attack vs. Downed Opp.: Diving Leg Drop Near Leg Drop Diving Moonsault 1 Dash: Running Stikes: Clothesline 14 Running Calf Kick (Leg Lariat) Running Grapple: DDT 2 (Cristo-Russian Leg Sweep replacement) DDT 3 Rear Techniques: Neckbreaker 12 Throw Back (Snap Neckbreaker) Running Ground Attack: Elbow Drop 2 Running Leg Drop Counter Attack: Back Body Drop 2 Flapjack & Dropkick Neckbreaker 10 Tag Team: Standing: Double Beat Head Dropkick & Rolling Clutch Double Punches 2 Double Clothesline Double Dropkick Corner: Whip & Lay Down Groin Press (O' Canada Nut Squash) Side Walk & Reverse DDT Spike Piledriver Double Side Leg Lock Special: Finishers: Piledriver 2 (Canadian Destroyer) Sunset Flip Pin 3 (Canadian Destroyer) Signature Moves: Sharpshooter 1 Sunset Flip Pin 3 (Canadian Destroyer) DDT 2 (Cristo-Russian Leg Sweep) Chair Finishers: DDT 23 DDT 23 Combination Attack: People's Punch 1 Angle Punches *R* Spinning Wheel Kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravnos Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 Very good job dude. The Turnbuckle Combo Kick isn't really necessary now, seeing how Sunset Flip Pin 4 is closer to his corner flip-through/follow-up thingy. Though, I don't know what you could put there besides another Turnbuckle Clothesline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jos-B Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 ^I guess you could put the On the Top Rope, or the Turnbuckle Dropkick. Oh, I see you didn't put his tag moves down. All I can really add for that would be to give him the Groin Press for the O Canada Nut Squash, and maybe the Spike Piledriver. Don't really see any other major qualms though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravnos Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 ^ Yeah, I used those as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xEpy0n Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 ok, i added the double team moves, and changed: Turnbuckle Kick Combo ==> On the Top Rope Spinning Wheel Kick 2 ==> Running Calf Kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvolutionIV Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Black Widow isn't even a Wheel Barrow type move why give him it? Cross Arm Stretch would be move proper as he does it a lot. Forget Sunsetflip Pin 3(I don't know why people keep giving him that move). Give him Super Neckbreaker Pin as a finisher or a Front Grapple(it's a favorite move and he's used it as a finisher in IWA-MS, he finally did it in TNA last night at Sacrifice to Liger) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravnos Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 ^ Er.... why the hell do you think people give him Sunset flip 3? 'Cause it looks like the Destoyer. It's the only thing close. And yeah he does do the straight jacket submission. I guess he could put it s an alternative. Black Widow is as close to the move that he's trying to substitute as it gets, so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjb Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 thanks, im gonna use this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvolutionIV Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [quote name='Ravnos' post='169515' date='May 15 2006, 07:07 PM']^ Er.... why the hell do you think people give him Sunset flip 3? 'Cause it looks like the Destoyer. It's the only thing close. And yeah he does do the straight jacket submission. I guess he could put it s an alternative. Black Widow is as close to the move that he's trying to substitute as it gets, so.[/quote] I know why they pick the Sunset Flip 3, but it's really annoying to be honest. I think it's a poor sub for the Destroyer. Seriously lets stop trying to sub moves that don't even have a set-up to the move or look anything like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xEpy0n Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [quote name='EvolutionIV' post='169566' date='May 15 2006, 09:51 PM']I know why they pick the Sunset Flip 3, but it's really annoying to be honest. I think it's a poor sub for the Destroyer. Seriously lets stop trying to sub moves that don't even have a set-up to the move or look anything like it.[/quote] ok, the Sunset Flip Pin 3 does look like the Destroyer at the beginging. Destroyer: put the opponent between his legs taunts flips -BOOM!- Piledrives! Sunset Flip Pin 3: kicks, then puts opponent between legs taunts flips "Piledrives" AKA pins and, by what you're saying, we shouldn't give finishers to half the TNA roster?! (eg.: AJ's Spiral Tap, Daniels' Angel's Wings, and Hoyt's Towerbomb) sorry for the ranting oh, and i might use the neckbreaker pin as a finisher. sorry for kinda chewin your head off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvolutionIV Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 The Edgucution(SP?) for the Angel Wings is fine as it's close to looking like the AW. and I didn't know Hoyt used a Towebomb I thought his move was like the FLipping Slam in the Corner but Standing instead of from the corner. the Corkscrew Body Pin is just like the Spiral Tap. You really used bad examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravnos Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 No, he didn't. Edgecution is obviously a substitute. It's not the same, it's just similar. Hoyt's Towerbomb isn't the Towerbomb in the game. It's a pumphandle into a single-arm (between the legs) powerbomb. Closest thing to it is the Super Tornado Bomb. The Corkscrew Body Pin is not the Spiral Tap. Just a poor substitute. AJ faces in, not out. It ends in either a flat leg drop or a splash of sorts. I substitited it with the Houston Hangover personally. Not bad examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvolutionIV Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Point being Black Widow is nothing like the Reverse DDT to Wheel Barrow Drop(I believe that's how the move goes I haven't seen him do it in a while(and if he did I missed it)) I said I didn't really like the SSF3 as a sub for the Destroyer, you both took it to a new level. I only remember saying the Black Widow was a poor sub for one of Peteys moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricasho/ Mccc Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Well srry Cory for not reading ur meassage but i'll help now. First get rid of Leg Lariat as he never does that. Replace it with enzujiri. Aslo remove Belly to back and use turn to front as its a great set up for the destoryer. Also Black Widow isnt a nice sub for his Sitout Wheelbarrow Facebuster, i would use Back suplex the ground one. The rest looks pretty nice. Also no matter what any1 says, Sunset flip is the best replacement for the destroyer. O yea, get rid of Crucifiz Head Scissor and use another hurricanrana or what i used is that back suplex where he flips. Also use Super neckbreaker as a secondary finisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeG Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Black Widow's more like AJ's move he used in ROH, holds them up for a Dominator then drills them down into a DDT ... ermm yeah. I agree with the Sunset Flip - Because I was the one who originally thought of it in HCTP on FAQs [quote]The Corkscrew Body Pin is not the Spiral Tap. Just a poor substitute. AJ faces in, not out. It ends in either a flat leg drop or a splash of sorts. I substitited it with the Houston Hangover personally.[/quote] Yes but AJ doesn't just fall forword and do a flippin' legdrop, he actually rotates and flips around, so IMO the Corkscrew Body pin is best. keep it friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravnos Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Thing about Super Neckbreaker Pin is it's a rare sight these days. It fits, .. I just think it's nice to have an actual piledriver so you can get some impact with a piledriving move. The Sunset flip 3 can get the 3, it just takes a lot of wearing down. I say present the n eckbreaker as an alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoganfan Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 when use the super neckbreaker in the technologies Moves (if possible??) , you can use another second Finisher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravnos Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 ^ Unfortunately, without hacks, you can only get the Super Neckbreaker in the Speed grapple moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xEpy0n Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 EDIT: Standing: Strike: Leg Lariat ==> Enzuigiri Grapple: Moves 1: Luchadore: Crucifix Headscissor ==> Back Suplex 1 Ground: Grapple: Black Widow ==> Back Suplex 9 Finisher: Finishers: added Super Neckbreaker Pin as an option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricasho/ Mccc Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Credit Ricasho too he he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xEpy0n Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 [quote name='Mccc301/The Ricasho' post='171107' date='May 16 2006, 04:45 PM']Credit Ricasho too he he[/quote] just now did. and i didn't think one of my movesets would have this many people replying on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravnos Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 I bet if we wanted to, the 3 of us could make hella good movesets together. We're just about the only 3 people here that have individual interest in making, editing, updating and revising movesets here. I've never heard tell of people working together on sets yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeG Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 I used to post movelists back in HCTP with TCA but now he's quit watching Wrestling and never comes online. I may start posting movelists again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xEpy0n Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 who do you mean? you, me, and Ricasho? or you, me, and ThreeG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomin8risgod Posted May 16, 2006 Report Share Posted May 16, 2006 Hey u guys if u ever have any questions about movesets ask thnx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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