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  1. That's an old school way of looking at the business and it isn't doing ROH a bit of good because even when someone does start to create some buzz, they just get poached. It'd be really cool if they could get CM Punk, Batista, and Sting on ROH, but once they're gone ROH is back to square one. They need to focus on making their product stand out as a whole, because right now they're just another wrestling show, but with less famous wrestlers that keep leaving. Lucha Underground is doing well because they don't rely on big names to draw. The stories and the whole presentation are the draw. Even if they lost Pentagon, Ricochet, and Cage it wouldn't mean much because there will still be wacky storylines and crazy hardcore matches every week. ECW was similar in that they never had to rely on household names or even technically sound wrestlers because they found other ways to make it interesting. I think you're more likely to get the average person to tune in if you have a hook or gimmick besides "this guy used to be in WWE".
  2. I don't get it. ROH has always had this problem. I said the same thing about Jon Moxley years ago. It's not like they didn't know what he was capable of. He was already one of the hottest acts out there and he was a free agent. Why weren't they bending over backwards to sign the guy? The same thing goes for Brian Cage before he was in LU. The list goes on and on. Joey Janella is another one of those guys that I'm looking around like, "um, hello!? Does nobody else see this guy!?"
  3. I wasn't a fan of Juice Robinson's stuff before coming to Japan. When he ended up in NJPW, I thought he was just another mediocre gaijin that they picked up because of the way he looks. The crazy thing is, I love him now. The fact that he looks and carries himself like a star is a nice bonus. I hope NJPW gets really serious about this US expansion, and if they can poach some big names that would be amazing. But if all they have for now is Juice Robinson, I think that's a great start. If the goal is to push a couple of western stars, I actually think Juice is a better choice than Kenny Omega in some ways.
  4. Lucha Underground could easily take Jack Swagger, put him in a cool looking mask, dub over his voice, and voilà! Instant star. I still think he's a great athlete and at 6'7, 275 lbs, he's capable of being very menacing. He just needs a fresh coat of paint.
  5. Some new info Mission Mode sounds very promising! There's nothing confirmed yet, but there's also a rumor going around that we may see some new match types in the game. All of the old ones are coming back, but there's also a screen shot of a match up screen featuring something called "Las Vegas Match". There was no "Las Vegas Match" in FPR, so it may be a new gimmick match, or we may be able to name our saved match settings now. Whatever it is can be played with up to 8 wrestlers.
  6. Here's what's been confirmed so far: Online play HD sprites Game will come with 30 original wrestlers 100s of new moves released through updates New arenas New wrestler edit features (new parts, faces and hair are now separate, color wheels, more layers) 4 attires per edit Not yet confirmed but probably true: Steam workshop support Online simming/spectator modes
  7. Yes, you can do all of that. You can also control how quickly they move around and how long they stay down when there's a ref bump.
  8. Some things I'd like to see in addition to the things you mentioned, that would continue to set it apart from the WWE series: - Even deeper logic customization for wrestlers and referees. - Something like GM mode, or maybe even a booking sim along the lines of TEW. - Crowd customization (Japanese crowds are quiet, PWG crowds chant incessantly, ect.) - A good story mode. - A sophisticated move creation tool If there really is going to be another Fire Pro game, I could see it including some of this stuff, especially if it's going to be in the classic 2D style.
  9. The main appeal of Fire Pro Returns is the insanely deep CPU logic customization. The game only has a small cult following, and I'd say the majority of the hardcore fans don't even play the game. They usually just customize wrestlers and then watch simmed matches. It's not like the 2K series where you get a handful of generic sliders that you can move back and forth, which seem to have very little actual impact on how the AI plays anyway. In FPR, you can choose from a huge list of personality traits, control the amount of times they'll go for any move by selecting a percentage, and even decide the sequence in which they perform moves. For example, you could make it so that Kazuchika Okada almost always taunts and goes for the Rainmaker after the tombstone piledriver if you wanted. Basically, well done CAWs not only have accurate movesets, but also accurate ring psychology, which makes for some epic moments. The 2K series definitely has Fire Pro beat when it comes to looks and the fact that you can easily pick it up and start playing. Fire Pro Returns has a steep learning curve. The gameplay is all about careful timing, and if you're used to arcadey button mashing fighting games, it can be frustrating at first. You have to get used to the 2D isometric view. At first you'll try to line up a dropkick that looks it should be right on someone's nose when in fact your legs are actually in the air beside them. Some of the controls may seem a bit weird too. But once you take the time to get used to how different it is, the game is amazing. And challenging in a good way. My biggest complaint with the 2K series is how unbearably easy it is. If you haven't played Fire Pro Returns in a while and set the match difficulty to 8, you're probably going to get absolutely raped. Every once in a while I still like to play a match against the computer, and it's rarely a squash match. So the gameplay takes practice, but it's very solid and consistent. I think a lot of people are still playing the game because the 2K series has a tendency to be kind of glitchy. You have so much control over the matches too. For example, I love the fact that you can control the overall speed of matches. If I'm doing a Ricochet vs. Will Osprey match, I like to bump up the speed to 125%. If it's a dream match between Katsuyori Shibata and Big Show, I might make it so that there's a higher chance of the match ending in a KO. There are some other charming bells and whistles you won't find in WWE games too. Another reason I prefer the game is because I'm simply not a big fan of the WWE product anymore, and Fire Pro will always be a better representation of the much larger, diverse world of wrestling. In WWE games, I can't have Kimber Lee vs. Hallowicked for the Chikara Grand Championship. I can't have Hayabusa dragon suplex Sabu off the apron into exploding barbed wire on the floor. I can't have 8 men in the ring at once for tag matches and battle royals. I can't book a shoot fight between Lesnar and Lashley in an octagon. In Fire Pro, you can do all of that. Sure, the graphics kind of the suck and there is a lot they could have done better, but it's a great game that still holds up really well, in my opinion. 2K does the create modes better because of the amazing graphics and the fact that the games are brand new. For anyone who may not know, it's important to keep in mind that Fire Pro Wrestling Returns was released in 2005. In 2005, the game had a ring customization, ref customization, and even a primitive logo creator in edition to custom wrestlers. Also, the CPU logic features shit all over the 2K series's AI. Imagine what they could do 12 years later! I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but if a new Fire Pro is half as innovative as FPR was back then, it's going to be an incredible game.
  10. Fire Pro Wrestling World, coming to PS4 and Steam in the second quarter of 2017. Official Teaser site: http://www.spike-chunsoft.co.jp/fireproworld/ Official Twitter: https://twitter.com/sc_prowrestling
  11. I'll bet it meant the *censored*ing world to him. And if Bryan's career had concluded without him being world champion in WWE, he would definitely be in a lesser category as far as where he sits on the list of greatest wrestlers. It definitely means way more than you're giving it credit for. Dude is a 3 time WWE champion and a one time WHC. It definitely puts him a whole notch above where he would be remembered otherwise. Being remembered for talent is great. Making the argument that the skilled wrestlers are remembered without winning championships is great. But it really isn't the point at all. The point is, being a great wrestler and winning championships is still better. I know what you're getting at, but I think Bryan is a terrible example. Bryan was a legend, at least to true wrestling fans before he even stepped in a WWE ring. He would have been considered one of the all time greats to wrestling fans either way. Casual WWE fans? Maybe not. But wrestling fans? Hell yeah. He had already won Wrestling Observer's most outstanding wrestler award like five years in a row. That's unprecedented. And I probably shouldn't bother bringing it up because I can't go digging for the source right now, but I've actually heard Bryan say in interviews that he wasn't a huge fan of the WWE product and the main reason he went there to begin with was money. Supposedly he did love it but still didn't have quite the same passion for it. I also know that when discussing WrestleMania 28, he speaks highly of that moment but puts little to no emphasis on the title. It was special because of the reaction from the audience. The fans being fed up with the way he was booked and the title not being seen as important played a big role in propelling him to the next level. Being a great wrestler and having a great career is more important than championships. There are guys who have had a lot of titles reigns but in the big scheme of things it doesn't mean much if you're abused by the business, have personal problems, or end up being forgotten by the fans. If you have a good career, then you aren't facing those issues. That's actually a good way to put it. Would you rather get an employee of the month award or be the highest paid guy in your company? Titles are neat but they mean very little.
  12. Nah, being a main event guy, being famous, being richer, that's what matters. Like I said, in most companies, being "world champion" is a good indicator that you're on the right track but it's not a necessity. Daniel Bryan was "world champion" at WrestleMania 28 and it didn't mean jack shit. It was just a mcguffin for him and Sheamus to fight over. Roddy Piper was never WWF heavyweight champion but he's considered one of the all time greats for a reason. It's not like wrestlers don't care about the titles in real life. They're fans just like we are. It's just that being champion isn't a real life accomplishment. Having a successful career is. And of course they're going to talk about how special the belts are. Like I said, they're fans, and it's important for them to protect their company's image. That's a big part of their job, even in "real interviews". Acting like a title win isn't special would be disrespectful to your coworkers and would turn fans off to the product.
  13. When Eddie beat Brock? I don't think he cried. If I remember correctly, he was actually laughing. Of course that made more sense for his character, who had just lied, cheated, and stolen his way to the title. God, I miss Eddie Guerrero. His stuff was never too cliche. Anyway, it doesn't matter. He did cry when he got in the ring to celebrate with Benoit at the end of WMXX. The point is that he wasn't crying because they won some pretend wrestling belts. They cried because the two of them had traveled the world together for years honing their skills, and at that point the reality was setting in that they made it to the highest level in the business (at that time, there were no John Cenas and Brock was on his way out). Lets say everything was the same, but there were no titles involved. You think it wouldn't have been emotional?
  14. It's not worthless in kayfabe. In real life it's a good indicator that your career is going well, but it still doesn't mean a whole lot. For example, I don't think that Great Khali necessarily had a better career than Jamie Noble just because he was WHC once while most of Noble's matches were in the undercard. Noble was more talented and more experienced. If I was a promoter, Jamie Noble's resume would look more impressive to me. Besides, Jamie Noble was ROH World Champion, which brings me to my next point; who decides what "the big one" is? Most wrestlers dream of winning the WWE championship because there's a good chance that means they've reached the top level and are making more money. It doesn't matter what the title is called, who held it, or what it looks like. And the money/success isn't even a guarantee. Because wrestling is totally scripted and wacky, their booking philosophies could change and they might decide to put the strap on a guy who gets paid peanuts while someone in a random midcard match is making millions. Titles don't always mean success. John Cena gets paid a lot more than Kevin Owens. Kevin Owens wouldn't hesitate to throw that ugly belt right in the trash if it meant he could be on The Rock's level. You can't really compare the value of fake wrestling belts. The WWE Universal Championship is not more coveted than the Inter Species Championship. WWE may not even exist in ISW's fictional universe. Being a top player in WWE obviously means you're more successful, but simply being a champion there doesn't.
  15. Wrestling for promotions like DGUSA, WWC, PCW, and WXW is "doing jack shit all"? I know he wasn't on pay-per-view or anything, but it's not like he wasn't keeping busy between WWE and LU. He frequently wrestled for little east coast indies and even a few larger companies around the world. He had some decent matches too. Are we talking about real careers or fictional wrestling careers? I don't understand how Miz being booked to win fake wrestling belts and working with actual big stars means that Morrison has "the lesser career". Morrison is working with legends like Rey Mysterio and Dr. Wagner Jr but that has little to do with his real life success. I don't even know if I'd agree that Miz is the bigger "star". He's more recognizable, but if fans had the choice of paying to see Miz or Morrison, would he really draw more? I don't think so. I don't think fans are lining up to see Miz, or Morrison for that matter. Miz is just fortunate to be in the premier promotion while LU is more of a niche product. That doesn't necessarily mean that he's getting paid less or has fewer perks. I wouldn't say that The Usos are bigger stars than the Young Bucks by virtue of where they work, and we don't really know what these guys' lives are like behind the scenes. I don't think it's fair to say that Morrison has a worse career unless you can show me how much money these guys make and how happy they are. There's nothing that we fans can look at to judge something like that. Based on what I can see, Miz only has a better career in WWE kayfabe. I also think Johnny Mundo's resumé has more quality matches.
  16. No way lol He's had a lesser career. Lesser, WWE career? Definitely. Lesser career in general? That's debatable. Marty Janetty certainly never did as well as Morrison is doing beyond WWE. I'm pretty sure Morrison makes just as good money as he was and he's involved in the best wrestling project going right now. Miz is still doing great stuff as a heel, and to be honest, Johnny Mundo is not one of my favorite characters. But the fact he's a part of LU at all is proof he's doing great things. He's getting booked all over the place and he has been doing some small, indie films. They seem equally successful.
  17. Is that that match from like 05' - 06'? *Censored* that match is old. March 31, 2006, but it still holds up very well. Time flies!
  18. Lucha Ilimitado sounds really promising. That's a pretty stacked card they're putting together and they've got a good venue. Also, WrestleZone failed to mention that apparently El Hijo Del Santo is coming out of retirement for another match at this show.
  19. SquaredCircleJerks? The podcast Dino Winwood used to have? I would love that That's not who I meant because that wouldn't be completely terrible.
  20. WhatCulture is garbage. It's the answer to the question of, "what if we gave /r/SquaredCircleJerk a couple million dollars?"
  21. Think you can give Colt Cabana a bit of credit for that. His deal with One Hour Tees helped alot of wrestlers actually be able to make money with decent quality tshirts. I agree that Cabana deserves some credit. The creation of One Hour Tees and him being the original podcast guy helped change the outlook on the indie scene and got the wrestlers to start thinking more like entrepreneurs. I always thought it was cool how comfortable and proud Cabana is just doing his own thing.
  22. I love the trend of guys like The Young Bucks, Kurt Angle, Cody Rhodes, Kota Ibushi, and now Alberto Del Rio not signing exclusive contracts with one company. It's so refreshing to see wrestlers who have become successful enough that they are no longer treated like slaves and can choose where they want to work while pursuing other interests beyond wrestling. These wrestlers deserve it, and speaking as a fan, it's exciting because it opens the door for all kinds of awesome dream matches that we wouldn't have been able to see otherwise. I hope Paige follows in Del Rio's footsteps. It's funny to be me that some people have suggested that maybe Del Rio is a "bad influence", because if anything, it sounds like he's a great role model based on everything I've read here. He has more of a future and is capable of providing more than most wrestlers.
  23. I've always loved Prince Nana. Super underrated character and one of the best managers ever.
  24. Nah, his real name is Cody Runnels. I believe WWE only owns the complete name "Cody Rhodes", so if I'm not mistaken he can use the Rhodes part but the whole name can't be exactly the same. It hasn't been an issue so far, but like I said, he also hasn't appeared on television, which is usually where WWE draws the line.
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