Grenade.

Still playing hella Injustice

Dabuz gets hate because he played lame af at Apex, it's not really a character thing. It might have extended to his character now but he originally caught shit for him camping.

Skyrim. We back in high school boys

Just finished The Wolf Among Us.....What the *Censored* man. Can't just end it like that. There has to be a Season 2.

The Wolf Among Us

Meh, plenty of DLC characters in fighting games have gone on to win major tournaments (Martian Manhunter and Batgirl in Injustice immediately come to mind, and Tanya now in MKX). It's not really much different than patches suddenly nerfing your main an making you pick up a new one.

Holy shit why do people pay that much for amiibos lol

I've been playing Caesar 3 all day. It's like 20 years old but still an amazing city building game.

You can play with good fighting game fundamentals without spamming projectiles. Projectiles actually kind of ruin usual neutral skills, and when you give a player that usually spams projectiles a character without any they won't know how to play the neutral at all. The less you rely on them the better, but you also have to realize they can give you an advantage. So you can use them without spamming or relying on them.

Killer Instinct

Injustice. Just had the most godlike comeback of all time.

I pretty much only play Mario and Greninja when I do play Smash 4. Melee I main Falco and Falcon, and play Marth and Fox a lot as well. PM I main Ivy and still play my melee characters sometimes.

You didn't say Melee fanboys but he did. And I very rarely see anyone go out of their way to downplay Smash 4 anymore, there was some of it when it first came out but I haven't seen it in a while unless Smash 4 is explicitly brought up by someone else. And then it's mostly people saying Smash 4 just isn't for them or they don't find it entertaining, or at least anyone's whose voice actually matters. At this point there are just as many Smash 4 fans that talk shit about Melee and especially it's community as there are Melee fans who actively try to downplay Smash 4. And I'm not really sure what you mean by the last sentence.

Yeah I was replying to both of you. He did make it sound like it was Melee's fault that Smash 4 players weren't giving their own game enough attention. The Smash 4/Brawl community is mostly separate from the Melee community, as they probably should be considering they're such different games. The only people that "downplayed Smash 4" from the start were the ones who never played the game and we're never apart of the community to even be in a position to effect it negatively. The game's community itself just needs to step up and take some responsibility for growing their own game, which is what Zeros entire rant was saying. It's not going to magically inherit Melee's success when it has so little in common with it.

How is Smash 4s failure in any way "melee fanboys" fault? Melee fanboys aren't the ones who aren't doing enough to compete or grow the scene. Almost every top smash 4 player is a top brawl player that abandoned melee a long time ago that's not putting enough time to beat Zero. "Melee fanboys" aren't doing anything to Smash 4, they aren't even playing Smash 4 or interacting with it's scene at all. And there's nothing wrong with that. I shouldn't have to support a scene I have no interest in simply because it has a similar title as my favorite game. If Smash 4 can't survive without Melee's help, it doesn't deserve to survive. The Smash 4 scene is killing itself by feeling entitled to inherit all the success melee has worked 13 years to attain instead of working for their own success.

He has won literally every tournament he has entered since November. And even then his only loss EVER in tournament was that invitational where he got 3rd with Fox. And it's not even like he has been pulling tournaments out in the clutch. He has been shit stomping everyone for almost 7 months now.

This started like a week or two ago when he said on twitter that the Sm4sh scene won't last at this rate because he hasn't lost since November and is the only one putting in the itme to get better and grow the scene, along with a lot of other shots at the scene in general. Since then everyone including himself has been begging for somebody to give him competition.

I *censored*ing love how much Zero has been calling people out to step it up and finally beat him. He's single handedly keeping the smash 4 competitive scene alive. I don't even watch smash 4 but I respect what he's been doing.

Just played all of To The Moon

MKX, Melee, and Smite

If you haven't given it to anyone I'll take it

Did they change his kit or something? Otherwise I don't see how he could be that good.

Of course it should be free for them to use meat boy, or any character. Realize how much exposure smash bros gives it's cast.

League of Legends....don't know how I got this bored

Yes I can deny it, because 5 months into Melee no character was useless yet either. Link and Mewtwo were winning tournaments the first couple years. Give it a few years and then tell me there are no trash characters in Sm4sh and we can have that conversation then. Once people learn how to really exploit characters weaknesses a tier list exactly like Melee's will appear in Sm4sh.