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Definitely. Between the guys hitting the barricades with the same intensity as they hit the ropes and the dives that can often end up with someone going into the crowd, it's a when not an if. Cornette has brought up that point on more than one occasion that it happens on indie shows all the time and fans get some tickets and a shirt and it's cool, but when you've got a millionaire running a company it changes everything.

Oddly enough I was thinking about them as singles wrestlers earlier. Feels like for the longest time when they broke into the US it was near impossible to see them team together and now it's rare to see them apart. I hope they do go their own way eventually. They're a bit of an odd fit if you look at them. Like Gens said, Fenix could be the next Rey and Penta is a dark heel type. If they weren't brothers it would be a real head scratcher as to why they were together lol. I'd love to see a mask match between/involving them some day. Don't know how they'd feel about unmasking one another though or if they'd want to do that outside of their native country

I've only seen her AEW work to judge on but Bea is pretty bad imo. I heard her name a lot prior to AEW but never saw anything (100% due to my own laziness as a wrestling fan these days) and i've been disappointed. Heard she was real good.

In fairness Kenny is 17+ years into his career at this point whereas Kurt was learning as he was going. I've never been able to take Kenny seriously though personally. Everything about him is just so goofy to me. Talented in the ring, but I can't stand watching him lmao You think being a goof is negative trait by default. it's not. Kurt Angle was world class, even when he was a goof. Hell...Chris Jericho is an absolute goof. And so was HBK after his first return. Mick Foley as soon as Mankind became a face. The New Day was already named before, but they're a valid point, as one of the most successfull acts in modern day WWE. Danniel Bryan in the WWE has also always been a goof, until his most recent heel turn. And don't get me started on pre-AE WWE & WCW. Being goofy isn't a bad trait, I just find Kenny himself goofy in a bad way. The promos I've heard sound like he's V/Oing an anime character and it's kind of cringe to listen to and some of his body language feels the same. Even when he's being serious, he comes across as goofy to me

In fairness Kenny is 17+ years into his career at this point whereas Kurt was learning as he was going. I've never been able to take Kenny seriously though personally. Everything about him is just so goofy to me. Talented in the ring, but I can't stand watching him lmao

A jobber is someone booked purely to make their opponent look dominant and powerful. Kenny hasn't had an AEW match under 20 minutes long. He may not be winning, but he's being prominently showcased and presented as a big name. He's the furthest thing from a jobber.

Yeah maybe give them a couple weeks to actually air on TV before you start losing hype

Yeah I too expect an AEW game to be a strictly AEW game. Exception being maybe some content from their partner promotions as some degree of fluff. I hope if/when they make a video game they make a proper sim style game. Similar to WWE2K but with vast improvements. Somewhat terrified I'll spend all this time getting excited for an alternative wrestling game and it end up being something like Fire Pro (Which I don't care for at all myself)

ROCK N ROLL FOREVER BABY!

This. The idea only sounds cringey because for the last 20 years, most of the character driven writing we've seen in wrestling has just been silliness that makes you *not* want to watch the product

The scenarios you mentioned IMO all arose because the promotion put more value in the casuals/obtaining more casuals than catering to their lifelong fans. Casual fans can definitely be profitable. The live music industry is a great example of that. I myself haven't watched WWE consistently for over a decade and I still spend $200+ on them every year between the Network, video games and other purchases.

Cody talks out his ass a lot. Sometimes I really wish Dusty was still here to give him help along the way. If there are no casual fans, how does the promotion succeed, or even grow long-term? Is AEW just existing to cater to the same 1-2 million fans forever? Currently I feel like a fair percentage of their fanbase are what we'd consider "casual" fans of the product, checking it out to see what it's all about. You'd have to think that a lot of those are also teens who were too young to have experienced the MNW era who are about to experience a true alternative to WWE for the first time.

NWA is doing studio tapings aren't they? I feel like that way of filming gonna be a shock to a lot of modern fans when they watch it

Thats not what I said bro. Its great hearing yall dont get spoiled, not the same for everybody. tbh if you plan to watch a show within 24 hours it's not that hard to stay spoiler free. Social media is the biggest one tbh and that's fairly easy to avoid

Acting and other opportunitiEs outside of Wrestling.

That's actually a Japanese thing... which annoys me. It's the same in Dead or Alive and Sword Art Online. In Japan, B/0 is select and A/X is back and usually they change it based on the country... but some games are too lazy to do so and I guess Fire Pro is one of the few, which I suppose makes sense, why is a giant X... confirm? it's an X lol and by annoy I mean the Japs using opposite to us Memories of spending 45 minutes trying to get the Kings of Colosseum games working on an emulator before someone smartened me up to this. -- Played a match last night. Controls seem fairly simple yet they aren't specific enough to know how to play. I checked the menu, but it told me the basics, so I had no idea how I was doing what move, or how I was reversing. Hope that changes in future updates. I feel like now is the most important time to do such a thing. In past games they've had niche audiences but I feel like their venture into the PC market in a time where PC gaming is on the rise/semi-popular again has the potential to bring in a lot of new fans.

I was joking in case you didn't find the humor in my post. You made a joke about people being dumb enough to elect Trump, but the overall message of the post seemed to be suggesting that buying an unfinished game somehow made people gullible or unwise. Just not true. Not really. Seems like he was speaking from the point of view that Americans are paying more than people in another country are. Realistically it's probably some kind of error somewhere along the line.

I remember they said that once the full version is released, those who got the early access will still pay a small amount. I think they will lessen the amount you paid in the full price. Really? I thought buying Early Access entitles you to the full game once it's done. That's how it typically is. Yeah if we still have to pay a small amount that is pretty bogus. Just so you get the notification, it's not true. Maybe I may have misread this artice (http://www.siliconera.com/2017/06/21/fire-pro-wrestling-world-makes-early-access-debut-july-10-2017/) wrong. But it is mentioned here that the price of the full version is different from the price of the early access. Also I don't know why the price of FPWW in US is $20 but here in the Philippines the price is only $10 or even less depending on the conversion rate of peso to dollar (right now its $1 = PHP 50). Here is the pic of steam webpage for Fire Pro. I think you may have just misunderstood what they meant. I didn't read the article but it's most likely that they mean that the game to purchase now in it's beta phase is ~$20, but the people who wait for it to be complete will pay a higher price. I bought it, but I can't blame people who want to wait. Games being stuck in development for years is not a uncommon thing. I think Fire Pro is established enough and will be completed though.

I remember they said that once the full version is released, those who got the early access will still pay a small amount. I think they will lessen the amount you paid in the full price. Really? I thought buying Early Access entitles you to the full game once it's done. That's how it typically is.

Not sure if you ever played Fire Pro games but that is going to be very time consuming. This game has a lot of edit features but it can get tiresome to make even one guy. It's gonna take a while to make a sizable roster if the edits are made from scratch. It'll take less time if the edits are downloaded from whatever they'll be calling the "community creations" system. Even then, it'll still probably be some time before fully fleshed out rosters are available. Don't get too excited for it just yet. We still don't know at what capacity we'll be able to mod the game, if at all. It's expected we'll see a consistent stream of new content with patches, last I knew. It'll be much easier to mod the game if Spike/Chunsoft provide the modding tools, like how Bethesda provides the Creation Kit for their games. Mods will be figured out whether tools are provided or not, on the PC at least. Console version might be a different story however. Hopefully they have a good save downloading/Community Creation-esque service.

True enough. It was more convenient though IMO. I feel like I'd only have the patience to create a handful of top guys from every promotion rather than have full rosters. I'll be getting it on PC though if anything so I'm sure there will be saves/mods of complete rosters released by the community.

30 Original Wrestlers? Am I reading into it wrong or is that a massive downgrade from FPWR? Didn't that game have hundreds of wrestlers in it that had made up names to likenesses of real wrestlers?

The Big Guy is a pretty stupid ring name tbh. I don't see why he just doesn't use his real name. "The Big Guy" Ryan Reeves has a nice ring to it IMO.

They could implement a system similar to the system they had in Bully. Have the character be completely independent and your actions in the game determine your relationships with the different groups in the game.

Not sure how much faith I put into this. Anonymous emails from people with insider info are fake just as often as they are real. Assuming this is real, I'm a little surprised that they're sticking with the Red Dead Redemption title. I always thought the last word was used in place of a number in a way. The prequel to RDR was called Red Dead Revolver was it not? I find it a little suspect that we're getting RDR2 though personally.