St★rstruck Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 Willows, I think you're missing my point. Regardless if there was "a story already there" for the KO/Zayn feud, KO's path toward Zayn's title is a lot similar to how Shayna is taking her path towards Ember's title by egging on the champion and practically forcing Ember to call her out and make the challenge herself as opposed to earning it. She was pretty much going to do everything that she could by seriously hurting and injuring people until she got the title shot. Also, I don't necessarily think Shayna's friendship with Rousey has much to do with her current position. Partially, yeah - but not completely like a lot of people are probably thinking. Fans are looking at Shayna and Ronda's friendship as an easy way for her to get in and have favorable booking, but are evidently over-looking the fact that she's a legitimate fighter. Besides, I know this may happen a bit more often nowadays in NXT sometimes, but not every new talent coming through has to have some sort of lengthy path to a championship. I personally thought Shayna was excellently booked throughout the MYC and helped with her character, and anyone who watched should know what she's about. She was the runner-up and took out the winner a few weeks ago; therefore, having her get a title shot one month (or less) in to her debut is something I don't really mind at all given the character that's being portrayed. Ember Moon seems to be set on becoming a transitional champion for Shayna and Kairi to have an eventual title match down the line, which is a good move in my opinion because I personally think Ember's character is shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 Willows, I think you're missing my point. Regardless if there was "a story already there" for the KO/Zayn feud, KO's path toward Zayn's title is a lot similar to how Shayna is taking her path towards Ember's title by egging on the champion and practically forcing Ember to call her out and make the challenge herself as opposed to earning it. She was pretty much going to do everything that she could by seriously hurting and injuring people until she got the title shot. Also, I don't necessarily think Shayna's friendship with Rousey has much to do with her current position. Partially, yeah - but not completely like a lot of people are probably thinking. Fans are looking at Shayna and Ronda's friendship as an easy way for her to get in and have favorable booking, but are evidently over-looking the fact that she's a legitimate fighter. Besides, I know this may happen a bit more often nowadays in NXT sometimes, but not every new talent coming through has to have some sort of lengthy path to a championship. I personally thought Shayna was excellently booked throughout the MYC and helped with her character, and anyone who watched should know what she's about. She was the runner-up and took out the winner a few weeks ago; therefore, having her get a title shot one month (or less) in to her debut is something I don't really mind at all given the character that's being portrayed. Ember Moon seems to be set on becoming a transitional champion for Shayna and Kairi to have an eventual title match down the line, which is a good move in my opinion because I personally think Ember's character is shit. That's why I think it's odd that people complain about Shayna's path and not KO's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Kazu Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 Perfectly put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 Think people are overlooking that Shayna is actually just very talented and there is nothing wrong with her getting such a push right away. In an industry where they try and pass off fake fighting with real stakes, someone who has history of being a real fighter kinda is a no brainer for some type of push. Especially someone who can make the fake fighting look so real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Kazu Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 I mean she's the only certified female catch wrestler in America. That should count for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardd Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 Hope she squashes Moon. Have only seen her match with Kairi but I liked her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2018 Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 I don't mind Shayna getting a title shot right away because I don't see her having a long NXT run anyway before getting called up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmerc Posted January 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2018 I'm fine as long as she kicks Embers ass lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counting Lights Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 It makes perfect sense for Shayna's character to instantly get the belt. Her performance in the MYC is already a great way to solidify her as a major threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoee Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 The scary thing about the title match is, do we think WWE is actually going to let Shayna lose? Even via distraction, it still makes her look weak. I worry for Embers reign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St★rstruck Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 I had a feeling Ember was gonna become a transitional champion long before she won the title, tbh. I think Shayna's definitely taking the strap off her, but I also don't see her having a long reign as champion, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counting Lights Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 I still don't think Ember was the right choice to win the Fatal 4 Way. Her reign feels pretty unnatural to me, so the sooner she drops that belt, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St★rstruck Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 I agree. Not only that, but I just personally find Ember to be lame as *Censored* aside from her ring skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willows Way Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 I just wish if Ember is gunna be a transitional champion that she dropped it to Iconic or Kairi. Preferably Iconic since i think they could do something different as a co champion thing. We just came off the whole dominant champion thing with Asuka and i feel we will go right back to it with Shayna. Except way less interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Kazu Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 The scary thing about the title match is, do we think WWE is actually going to let Shayna lose? Even via distraction, it still makes her look weak. I worry for Embers reign. Are you serious? Shayna lost clean to Kairi at the finals of the MYC. WWE has 'let' Shayne lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoee Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 The scary thing about the title match is, do we think WWE is actually going to let Shayna lose? Even via distraction, it still makes her look weak. I worry for Embers reign. Are you serious? Shayna lost clean to Kairi at the finals of the MYC. WWE has 'let' Shayne lose. But lets be real. We knew Kairi was winning from the jump. They made her signing a big deal as it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardd Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 I do not get the Iconic hype whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St★rstruck Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 I don't, either. Iconic Duo are definitely talented, but they haven't done much that would make me want to see either of them as Women's champion. You could mostly blame that on their booking, though...but, I feel most fans favor them so much because of the need of that desire to always see a guy/girl finally get a title after being in NXT for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepia Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 I do not get the Iconic hype whatsoever. Me neither. I think I get it more with Peyton because she's shown a little more skills, but I don't understand Billie's appeal. I think for the most part it's because they have been there a long time? People feel like they need some recognition because of that? I don't know. I do feel like they have been the backbone of their division, though, especially when NXT was in a slump after Asuka left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E#37 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 The scary thing about the title match is, do we think WWE is actually going to let Shayna lose? Even via distraction, it still makes her look weak. I worry for Embers reign. Are you serious? Shayna lost clean to Kairi at the finals of the MYC. WWE has 'let' Shayne lose. But lets be real. We knew Kairi was winning from the jump. They made her signing a big deal as it was. Hideo got the same hype, look how that ended up. Hideo got injured and faded away. Now Kairi is is out because she's banged up, it's not a sure thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Kazu Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 I don't, either. Iconic Duo are definitely talented, but they haven't done much that would make me want to see either of them as Women's champion. You could mostly blame that on their booking, though...but, I feel most fans favor them so much because of the need of that desire to always see a guy/girl finally get a title after being in NXT for a long time. Same. They do some funny skits and are competent in the ring but that's pretty much it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counting Lights Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 The Iconic appeal, to me, comes largely from their off-show segments. The two are hilarious in all those YouTube exclusives, and likewise I think Peyton is a really good in ring talent. Billie is a lot more basic from what we've seen, but she's a good sidepiece for Peyton. Plus she has a really good look/presentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunchbox Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 The scary thing about the title match is, do we think WWE is actually going to let Shayna lose? Even via distraction, it still makes her look weak. I worry for Embers reign. The story is easy there, Shayna is really good but still inexperienced. She could get too cocky and Ember takes advantage of that. Simple really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suspicious squirtle Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Shayna could get frustrated that she isn't beating Ember as easily as most of her other competitors and attacks her with a chair, therefore, Ember wins via DQ. That way Ember would retain her title, but Shayna would still look strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil' Kazu Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 That would be dumb af. Have they ever done a *Censored* finish like that on a Takeover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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