WWE Show Discussion

[Lil' Kazu]

^ Not everyone can.

 

Jinder Mahal was WWE champion. They can literally put the belt on anyone. So if you're there for 10 years chances are you've won the belt. Infact, if I had to guess I'd say he's the only member of the roster who's been there for the last 10 years and hasn't won a world championship.

[Willows Way]

Yeah theres no reason Kofi cant have a short little run at least.

[St★rstruck]

Kofi was looking at winning his first World title in just 2 years of being with the company, until shit happened. Otherwise, I felt like he would have had at least a few World title reigns under his belt.

[Lil' Kazu]

Ask Golden Boy Orton why he wasn't World Champ.

[Beardd]

Yeah theres no reason Kofi cant have a short little run at least.

 

I can buy all three of them in the title scene tbh. Even Xavier as a weasel type of heel champion.

[LEGION]

 

^ Not everyone can.

 

Jinder Mahal was WWE champion. They can literally put the belt on anyone. So if you're there for 10 years chances are you've won the belt. Infact, if I had to guess I'd say he's the only member of the roster who's been there for the last 10 years and hasn't won a world championship.

 

The only other people I can think of are Zack Ryder and R-Truth (Goldust left the WWE several times). So yeah...That's quite crazy

[Beardd]

Primo and Matt Hardy (although yeah, the latter is kind of like Goldust) as well.

[Lil' Kazu]

 

 

^ Not everyone can.

 

Jinder Mahal was WWE champion. They can literally put the belt on anyone. So if you're there for 10 years chances are you've won the belt. Infact, if I had to guess I'd say he's the only member of the roster who's been there for the last 10 years and hasn't won a world championship.

The only other people I can think of are Zack Ryder and R-Truth (Goldust left the WWE several times). So yeah...That's quite crazy

 

Jesus, Zack Ryder has been there for 11 years. All the time, so little good. R-Truth will get his 10th year anniversary in August.

 

Primo and Matt Hardy (although yeah, the latter is kind of like Goldust) as well.

 

Primo will have his 10th anniversary on August too. Matt Hardy doesn't count at all, he spent most of the last 10 years out of WWE.

And he was ECW champ too.

[Beardd]

I acknowledged that.

 

However, if you add up the years he was actually on the roster, it's well past 10. So it depends how you look at it for both him and Goldust. But yeah, the ECW title is a fair point that I forgot about.

[classiq.]

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[Lil' Kazu]

I acknowledged that.

 

However, if you add up the years he was actually on the roster, it's well past 10. So it depends how you look at it for both him and Goldust. But yeah, the ECW title is a fair point that I forgot about.

 

Yeah, but I think it's very different being in the company for 10 years on and off and being there for 10 years straight.

[Generations]

A Fox deal would be a terrible call.

 

You guys want Raw to be preempted for baseball or something? Because, that's what you're going to get on Fox. Being on a sports-centric channel might make WWE look like a more "legitimate" sport...but, USA network has always treated them well. Even going as far as allowing them entire "WWE programming Weeks" or having commercial free episodes. And for *Censored*'s sake...if WWE is looking to pull out of USA network for one reason or another...then make sure you sign a deal where Raw and SD can be on the WWE network as well.

[Lil' Kazu]

I'd rather it be on Fox and be 2 hours long then stay on USA and be 3 hours.

[Generations]

2 hours won't fix any of the problems with the show, and will probably compound most of them. Short attention spans aside, there is nothing wrong with the 3 hour format. The roster is now larger than ever, and constantly growing even larger. I'm definitely not in favor of any further expansions for Raw...but the 3 hours is an appropriate time when you factor out all of the commercial breaks.

 

People who want a 2 hour Raw seem to have this idea that it will somehow force WWE to tell better stories because they have less time to waste. That's just wishful thinking on entirely too deep of a level for WWE.

 

Also, the bigger issue is definitely Fox...not the amount of time. Like I said...Fox isn't about to have any problems with running something like football or baseball right over top of Raw. When you tune to USA network on Monday or Tuesday night, you can do so with 99.9% certainty that WWE will be live.

[Lil' Kazu]

Yeah, 2 hours won't fix the 3rd hour drop.

[Generations]

Yeah, 2 hours won't fix the 3rd hour drop.

 

Quite the conclusion you're jumping to right there. Has more to do with short attention spans, and less to do with quality. And again, you're assuming that getting rid of that third hour will immediately fix that problem. What you're saying is basically the same as cutting off a broken finger and then saying "look...all better".

 

You completely negate the fact that a two hour show would suffer from a second hour drop just the same as a three hour show has a third hour drop. The problem is that people already know that they don't care about the main event, so they tune out to go do something else. In the first hour, you're hopeful...you don't know what the show is going to have in store...during the second hour, almost everything has been revealed...and by the third hour, you say "well...I guess I don't need to watch the rest of this".

 

But, none of that changes with a 2 hour format...it just becomes condensed. All that you get is a product that leaves less to the imagination and jumps right to revealing what the main event will be. Might be good for people who want an excuse to skip the show...but it won't do WWE any favors.

[Ziggy Vercetti]

[St★rstruck]

I wish WWE's current intros had more action and less posing and shit. The intros always make you get hyped as *Censored* for the show when you see stuff like that...or at least it did back in the day when I was growing up as a kid. Nowadays, the intros and show themes are all ass.

[Beardd]

Everything is ass tho.

[Willows Way]

Eh idk about the show themes. The ones they have now are the best in a long time imo.

[Lil' Kazu]

Everything is ass tho.

 

This is ass... EVERYTHING is ass!

[St★rstruck]

They *censored*ing suck to me, especially SmackDown's. I guess it's just a certain preference I have.

 

Anyways, supposedly Paige is done as an in-ring performer...

 

By Mike Johnson on 2018-01-12 16:02:00

2016 into 2017 was one issue after another for WWE star Paige. 2017 into 2018 was supposed to be her major comeback to WWE, her redemption. Inside the ring, sadly, that will not be the case.

In a situation described as similar to WWE Hall of Famer Adam "Edge" Copeland's medical disqualification from the ring, WWE star Paige (Saraya-Jade Bevis, 25 years old) was informed this week that she will not be cleared to return to the ring after her most recent in-ring injury, PWInsider.com has confirmed with multiple sources. It is believed Paige was given the news at the Raw taping this past Monday. We have been told by multiple sources she is "done" as an in-ring wrestler.

During a six woman tag team bout on 12/28/17 at the Nassau Coliseum in Uniondale, Long Island, Paige had her back to Sasha Banks, who was behind her against the turnbuckles. Banks used the ropes to pull herself up and kicked with both legs to Paige's back. Paige, obviously not ready for the bump, went down face first. She tried to get up but could not get her legs under her, finally did get up and turned to grab Banks, immediately falling down again and rolling over to her back, where she stayed. The referee checked on her and called for the bell. She was examined by WWE medical personnel and a stretcher was brought to ringside to transport her back to the locker room. After several minutes, Paige walked out under her own power.

It was believed at the time that Paige had suffered a stinger, leading to her losing feeling in her extremities. Given her previous neck surgery, WWE pulled her from the ring and set up further testing that led to this week's decision.

Paige had been announced for the first-ever Women's Royal Rumble match on 1/28 in Philadelphia after she was injured, but we are told that was before medical testing led to the determination that she was to be pulled from performing as an in-ring competitor. She will be replaced in the match and all signs are that she will relegated to a non-physical role for the company going forward. One would assume the company will devise a way to write her out of the Rumble match without any physicality, similar to how Daniel Bryan is not allowed to be involved in anything physical in his current role as Smackdown General Manager.

Paige's injury came, as most injuries do, at the worst possible time.

2016 into 2017 was an explosive year for Paige that saw her undergo neck surgery, be hit with a pair of WWE Wellness Policy suspensions, undergo the embarrassment of personal and explicit videos being leaked and of course, her public and tumultuous relationship with Alberto el Patron. There were a number of incidents that played out in the public eye involving the couple, included a July 2017 scene at the Orlando International Airport that was so bad, local authorities got involved, later determining not only that Paige was the aggressor in the situation but that there was enough evidence to prosecute her for domestic violence battery. In the end, the District Attorney's office opted not to move forward with the prosecution.

By the latter part of the year, however, Paige was cleared medically and was finally back in the ring, spending time at the WWE Performance Center in order to prepare for a television return. She was brought back with great fanfare during a great Raw segment last year, helping to introduce NXT talents Mandy Rose and Sonya Deville to the main roster as part of the Absolution faction. The strategy behind putting the group together may have been to devise a way to limit Paige's ring time due to her previous neck issues, while also getting her back on TV in a prominent role. Almost immediately, the trio was clicking, feuding with Sasha Banks, Bayley and Mickie James. Paige was right back where she should have been.

Then, the injury happened.

The irony of the situation, a number of sources have pointed out, is that no one would think there was anything physically wrong by looking at Paige, making it even more unthinkable that she, at 25, is being removed from WWE competition.

A second generation star from Norwich, England who broke into the business at just 13 years of age, Paige's signing to WWE developmental was instrumental in leading to the current incarnation of the WWE women's division. She was one of the first breakout stars of the WWE NXT brand as it evolved from just being a developmental territory. NXT's Women's division, unlike the WWE main roster at the time, specifically focused on the athletic in-ring abilities of the female talents and built stories, title matches and rivalries no different than NXT's male counterparts.

As more and more talents migrated from NXT to arrive on WWE's main roster, the women's division there also evolved, becoming far more performance-based as the division became a more popular and important piece of WWE's product, Paige was not only a major part of moving the division forward, she was the first sign of that the tides were changing.

Paige, the first NXT Women's champion, was moved to the main roster as a surprise the day after Wrestlemania 30 in New Orleans, shockingly defeating AJ Lee to become the WWE Divas champion. In doing so, Paige became the first and only woman to hold the belts simultaneously. With her Divas championship win, she was also the youngest woman to hold the belt at 21 years of age. She would hold the Divas championship twice.

While Paige will not be allowed to wrestle going forward by the company, we are told that she is extremely well liked by management, so one would think she would remain with the company in some capacity. She was featured on reality series Total Divas, so that's a possible vehicle for her, as are WWE Studios feature films. It's also possible the company could tap her to Coach in the NXT system or attempt to transition her into another on camera role.

Of course, The Rock is producing WWE Studios' forthcoming film "Fighting With My Family", which will be released theatrically September 14th. The company will obviously utilize Paige to promote the film, which based on a British documentary made about Paige's family, The Knights, who have been wrestling and promoting the World Association of Wrestling (WAW) promotion in Great Britain for years. One of the lead characters, named Raya (short for Saraya, Paige's given name) is played by actress Florence Pugh and is the central character of the film as it follows a fictionalized version of Paige's path to World Wrestling Entertainment, right down to a major scene where they recreate the night she debuted on Raw and captured the Divas championship.

The importance of her connection to the film alone should allow Paige to continue to be showcased in some fashion until the film hits theaters.

Outside of WWE, Paige had been attempting to build a separate brand for herself under the name "Saraya" with the assistance of former WWE star Rosa Mendes and her husband. Obviously, that will continue as well.

 

[Lil' Kazu]

Damn. Can't say I didn't see this coming but it's terrible to see someone's career potentially end at such a young age...

[St★rstruck]

It *censored*ing sucks if it's true, especially considering what she's gone through since she's been gone - and now finally coming back to WWE and possibly being apart of the first Women's Rumble match AND being the likely winner of the whole thing.

[Ziggy Vercetti]

Damn that sucks, poor girl