God of Lightning Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King RyderFan Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Please don't punish EA for this, that would be terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faster Than Light Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Meh. Kind of don't want any government entities going after video game things unless its for far worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conundrum Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Im usually all for governament leaving games alone, but I agree with this. These things are getting out of hand. I could care less about the micro transactions (as I dont use them) but the games themselves are starting to really lack because companies out so much effort and attention into the micro transactions, so if they can somehow get banned, and game companies have to re-focus on making an actual game again, Ill be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muur Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Gotta hope they ban that shit. Please don't punish EA for this, that would be terrible. Hope that's sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God of Lightning Posted November 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 And Belgium wants loot boxes completely banned in Europe. http://www.pcgamer.com/belgium-says-loot-boxes-are-gambling-wants-them-banned-in-europe/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King RyderFan Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Gotta hope they ban that shit. Please don't punish EA for this, that would be terrible. Hope that's sarcasm. Oh no, no sarcasm there, EA are the perfect role model company, not once have they ever tried to rip off anyone. It's not oike they would microtransaction the shit outta Star Wars Battlefront, would they? It would be an absolute travesty if anything happened to then. On a more serious note, the best case scenario is that loot crates get fully ilegalised and we never have to see those shitty things again while EA is forced to release their pack odds for things like Ulrimate Team. Worst case scenario is that this is one-off news and everyone moves on after like two weeks and EA just looks bad for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maskedmaniac Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Don't worry, Trump will step in and make loot boxes legal for big companies to make money off of. Not sure why, just sounds like something Trump would do to piss people off and let big corporations make more $ on something he has no business getting into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango kid Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 As I don't really keep track of this case what is going on with this loot box controversy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muur Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 As I don't really keep track of this case what is going on with this loot box controversy Star Wars came out and the characters are locked. It will take either 2900 hours to unlock them all or $4500 dollars On top of that, the boxes come with stat buffs, auto healing etc so it's literally pay to win After much bitching, Belgium, Australlia and Hawaii are looking into it and they have said it's gambling In a legal sense, "Since you get something in return it's not gambling and it's only gambling if there's a chance you get nothing" So if that's the case, then I guess if a casino gives you some feaces on the way out, well it's not gambling, you got something out of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernez Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 As I don't really keep track of this case what is going on with this loot box controversy Star Wars came out and the characters are locked. It will take either 2900 hours to unlock them all or $4500 dollars On top of that, the boxes come with stat buffs, auto healing etc so it's literally pay to win After much bitching, Belgium, Australlia and Hawaii are looking into it and they have said it's gambling In a legal sense, "Since you get something in return it's not gambling and it's only gambling if there's a chance you get nothing" So if that's the case, then I guess if a casino gives you some feaces on the way out, well it's not gambling, you got something out of it! You forgot "something of value" after that sentence though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-zero Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 If nothing else maybe it will curve future usage of loot crates. Because nearly every game tries to use them now. It was ok in a few types of games like ftp, mmos, and maybe phone games since you probably will keep them a little while. But them showing up in yearly games and AAA games is a bit much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muur Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 As I don't really keep track of this case what is going on with this loot box controversy Star Wars came out and the characters are locked. It will take either 2900 hours to unlock them all or $4500 dollars On top of that, the boxes come with stat buffs, auto healing etc so it's literally pay to win After much bitching, Belgium, Australlia and Hawaii are looking into it and they have said it's gambling In a legal sense, "Since you get something in return it's not gambling and it's only gambling if there's a chance you get nothing" So if that's the case, then I guess if a casino gives you some feaces on the way out, well it's not gambling, you got something out of it! You forgot "something of value" after that sentence though. Some people like poop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God of Lightning Posted November 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 All these micro transactions and loot boxes and whatnot are making me really glad I don't play AAA games much. Should be interesting to see what happens once all this stuff blows over. Will some progress actually be made to the point where we can consider it a solid win or will things just slowly go back to normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Dreadful Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 As I don't really keep track of this case what is going on with this loot box controversy Star Wars came out and the characters are locked. It will take either 2900 hours to unlock them all or $4500 dollars On top of that, the boxes come with stat buffs, auto healing etc so it's literally pay to win After much bitching, Belgium, Australlia and Hawaii are looking into it and they have said it's gambling In a legal sense, "Since you get something in return it's not gambling and it's only gambling if there's a chance you get nothing" So if that's the case, then I guess if a casino gives you some feaces on the way out, well it's not gambling, you got something out of it! You forgot "something of value" after that sentence though. Some people like poop. i can think of 2 girls that do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FulGore Posted November 27, 2017 Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 They will just raise the prices of their games to 70 dollars. They will just raise the prices of their games to 70 dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muur Posted November 28, 2017 Report Share Posted November 28, 2017 That's fine with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CROSS-Out Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 Not with me. In canada games are already ridiculously expensive, and some other countries got it even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Dreadful Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 yup. for example, here in Canada, the standard edition of WWE 2K18 was/is $79.99 ($79.98 at Walmart lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muur Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 They will just raise the prices of their games to 70 dollars. They will just raise the prices of their games to 70 dollars. Just converted it... you get games for $70? AAA games for us here release between £50-£60. ($66-$80). So I would have paid $66 for FIFA 18 had I not got it on Black Friday and I think it' sdropped £10 from release date. yup. for example, here in Canada, the standard edition of WWE 2K18 was/is $79.99 ($79.98 at Walmart lol) Standard game prices for us are $85-$102 in your currency If I had wanted to buy FIFA outside of Black Friday for example... it would be the lower end of what I posted there (standard edition is $85) New games used to be £40 but they have jumped up for PS4 and Xbox One. Not with me. In canada games are already ridiculously expensive, and some other countries got it even worse. It would seem Europe have it worse indeed. We even get the WWE Network costing more. Americans pay $9.99 whilst the UK pays $13.35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 The "something of value" debate is a questionable one...mainly because it should be of equal value to the money that you spend. While you might not walk away completely empty handed, it is very common that you get a bunch of shit that isn't anywhere near the value of the currency you spent. So, I still feel like that's gambling. Anything where you can potentially get less than the value of your dollar feels like gambling to me... And, I mean...trading cards come to mind, but those are physical...and they are collectibles. I think things get a bit dicier when you're talking about digital items that don't really exist...you can't trade them, you can't sell them...they aren't worth shit. You might buy a pack of Pokemon or MTG cards...get a bunch of crap and feel like it wasn't worth what you spent...but you still have a physical item that is yours to do whatever you want with. Same can't be said if you spent $5 on some digital loot box and get a single useful item out of it. You can't salvage the rest of that garbage in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muur Posted November 29, 2017 Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 With playing cards, you can get a profit from a pack. Get a rare or popular card? sell it on Ebay and make a profit! My brother bought a Yugioh pack, got the cover star of that pack series (so the best card you can get from those packs) and sold it for a pretty good profit. The card market sells a shit tonne of cards as singles. Maybe if you could just buy all the same shit from these boxes as standalone DLC it would be fine... but you can't. In some games you can but in most you can't. Even then, you can't sell your contents on Ebay to make a profit. Lootboxes are also random. Yugioh and other card games have written on guareteed rates, as they have to for law. So for example, you'd get like "1 Ultra rare, 2 Super, 3 Normal" etc. You know the level you're getting, so know how much the pack is worth before opening it. Loot is just... all random. Heck, if you were to sell all the cards you get in a single pack, I think you would come close to getting a profit every single time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God of Lightning Posted December 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 They will just raise the prices of their games to 70 dollars. They will just raise the prices of their games to 70 dollars. Nintendo and plenty of other Japanese/non-AAA devs sell games at $60 just fine without all this garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightning116 Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 Please don't punish EA for this, that would be terrible. F**k that. EA's a bunch of greedy assholes. Finally someone calls them out on their get rich quick schemes. If this means microtransactions and lootboxes get either toned down or developers are forced to, GASP, make an actual game then so be it. They will just raise the prices of their games to 70 dollars. They will just raise the prices of their games to 70 dollars. Nintendo and plenty of other Japanese/non-AAA devs sell games at $60 just fine without all this garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God of Lightning Posted December 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 http://fortune.com/2017/12/09/lawmaker-working-to-ban-sale-of-games-with-lootboxes-to-minors/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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