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#1261 TheShape_1978

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Posted 07 June 2019 - 04:41 PM

Well considering that one of the founding fathers said the Constitution should be Rewritten every decade it's not so much it has never been Rewritten since it was created and Amendment doesn't count

And you're going by judges interpretation which may not be what it was actually meant when it was written

And it still does not change the fact that man's rights are not the same as God given rights could God did not give the person rights man did

 

Via Convention of States.  Blame the Dems on that one.  Amended does count as rewritten, since something is being added.

 

The judges in DC v Heller went by the Federalist Papers, which were written by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay.  

 

If circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist. [Federalist 29]

 

The framers of the Constitution state that our rights come from our Creator, not government.  Unlike everywhere else where government gives you your rights, our government in the United States is supposed to protect our rights. 


Edited by TheShape_1978, 07 June 2019 - 04:41 PM.


#1262 AONO.

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Posted 07 June 2019 - 11:20 PM

right, so "the creator" gives rights to the US citizens... but other countries... have goverment given rights.

"The creator" chose Southern American continent, and the nation founded by specifical people at a given time... and "gave them rights". While the other parts of the world can go *Censored* themselves and follow their own rules and "rights".

The constitution is a political document... like many others throught human history...

"The framers of our constitution state that our rights cone from our Creator"

Well ok, and they are... what?

Yes it is supposed to, and they really aren't by making you have to be paranoid of random gunmen coming to your house, and making you not feel safe in your community.

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Posted 07 June 2019 - 11:59 PM

Yawn, ,shit arguments to claim guns are God-given rights. For a group of people that's supposedly "pro-life," they sure love proving otherwise. No true pro-lifer would want lax gun control after constant mass shootings and even kids being killed. Bullshit all around. 



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Posted 08 June 2019 - 12:03 AM


Well considering that one of the founding fathers said the Constitution should be Rewritten every decade it's not so much it has never been Rewritten since it was created and Amendment doesn't count

And you're going by judges interpretation which may not be what it was actually meant when it was written

And it still does not change the fact that man's rights are not the same as God given rights could God did not give the person rights man did

 
Via Convention of States.  Blame the Dems on that one.  Amended does count as rewritten, since something is being added.
 
The judges in DC v Heller went by the Federalist Papers, which were written by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay.  
 

If circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist. [

Federalist 29

]


 

The framers of the Constitution state that our rights come from our Creator, not government.  Unlike everywhere else where government gives you your rights, our government in the United States is supposed to protect our rights. 



Admend is not the same as rewritten for one and 2


Who is the creator then so does that mean the rights can change by who ever in charge of there creator isn't he same as the writers of the bill of rights

#1265 TheShape_1978

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Posted 08 June 2019 - 12:24 AM

right, so "the creator" gives rights to the US citizens... but other countries... have goverment given rights.

"The creator" chose Southern American continent, and the nation founded by specifical people at a given time... and "gave them rights". While the other parts of the world can go *Censored* themselves and follow their own rules and "rights".

The constitution is a political document... like many others throught human history...

"The framers of our constitution state that our rights cone from our Creator"

Well ok, and they are... what?

Yes it is supposed to, and they really aren't by making you have to be paranoid of random gunmen coming to your house, and making you not feel safe in your community.

 

Yes.  Those other countries suppress their subjects.

 

See above.

 

Yes.

 

Not cone but come from our Creator.

 

See Bill of Rights.

 

I'm not paranoid actually because I have the right to defend myself.


Yawn, ,shit arguments to claim guns are God-given rights.

 

For a group of people that's supposedly "pro-life," they sure love proving otherwise. No true pro-lifer would want lax gun control after constant mass shootings and even kids being killed. Bullshit all around. 

 

If you call the Founding Documents and settled law as "shit" arguments, then your arguments are "sub-shit."

 

Do we have to get into me showing you, once again, that homicides and gun violence have been on a steady decline for decade while gun ownership has risen in the meantime? Even you admitted to that.


 

 

Well considering that one of the founding fathers said the Constitution should be Rewritten every decade it's not so much it has never been Rewritten since it was created and Amendment doesn't count

And you're going by judges interpretation which may not be what it was actually meant when it was written

And it still does not change the fact that man's rights are not the same as God given rights could God did not give the person rights man did

 
Via Convention of States.  Blame the Dems on that one.  Amended does count as rewritten, since something is being added.
 
The judges in DC v Heller went by the Federalist Papers, which were written by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay.  
 

If circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist. [

Federalist 29

]


 

The framers of the Constitution state that our rights come from our Creator, not government.  Unlike everywhere else where government gives you your rights, our government in the United States is supposed to protect our rights. 



Admend is not the same as rewritten for one and 2


Who is the creator then so does that mean the rights can change by who ever in charge of there creator isn't he same as the writers of the bill of rights

 

 

amend- make minor changes in (a text) in order to make it fairer, more accurate, or more up-to-date.

 

 

synonyms: revise, alter, change, modify, qualify, adapt, adjust;

 

 

The creator is whoever or whatever you believed created everything.  God, Allah, the Big Bang.  Nobody is in charge of the Creator.


Edited by TheShape_1978, 08 June 2019 - 01:53 AM.


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Posted 29 July 2019 - 03:38 PM

Shooting at a garlic festival in California.

 

A. *censored*ing. garlic. festival. 

 

 

 

Assholes with guns really are being everywhere.


Edited by Generations, 29 July 2019 - 03:39 PM.


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Posted 29 July 2019 - 04:23 PM

A kid was among those killed

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Posted 29 July 2019 - 08:02 PM

So according to yahoo his Instagram he post lot of far righr stuff from,Hitler he half half Italian half Iran

Santino William Legan, a 19-year-old resident of Gilroy, who also spent some time in Nevada[7] was identified by authorities as the shooter who was killed by police.[14] Witnesses reported that he appeared to be firing at random.[8]



We're 210 days into 2019 and there have already been 246 mass shootings," she said in the statement, adding: "This reality is horrifying. It's heartbreaking. And the fact that our nation's leaders continue to fail to protect us should fuel outrage in every American. This must stop - we must stop this."

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Posted 30 July 2019 - 01:34 AM

He was apparently able to buy a gun in Nevada and take it to California. Had NV had stricter gun laws, this tragedy could have likely been avoided. 

But the party of "family values" and "pro-life" don't give a shit about that as long as they get money in their pockets. 



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Posted 30 July 2019 - 02:21 AM

He was apparently able to buy a gun in Nevada and take it to California. Had NV had stricter gun laws, this tragedy could have likely been avoided. 

But the party of "family values" and "pro-life" don't give a shit about that as long as they get money in their pockets. 

 

Nevada is ran by Dems.  They have a Dem governor and have majorities in both houses.


Edited by TheShape_1978, 30 July 2019 - 02:24 AM.


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Posted 30 July 2019 - 10:24 AM

 

He was apparently able to buy a gun in Nevada and take it to California. Had NV had stricter gun laws, this tragedy could have likely been avoided. 

But the party of "family values" and "pro-life" don't give a shit about that as long as they get money in their pockets. 

 

Nevada is ran by Dems.  They have a Dem governor and have majorities in both houses.

 

Which doesn't change anything about what M3J said



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Posted 30 July 2019 - 04:26 PM

Another 🤬 shooting. In a Walmart in Mississippi

#1273 TheShape_1978

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Posted 30 July 2019 - 10:34 PM

 

 

He was apparently able to buy a gun in Nevada and take it to California. Had NV had stricter gun laws, this tragedy could have likely been avoided. 

But the party of "family values" and "pro-life" don't give a shit about that as long as they get money in their pockets. 

 

Nevada is ran by Dems.  They have a Dem governor and have majorities in both houses.

 

Which doesn't change anything about what M3J said

 

 

Sure it does.  He is complaining about Nevada having lax gun laws and blaming it on Republicans, when they are a minority in the state government.  Pretty cut and dry.



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Posted 31 July 2019 - 11:34 PM

Another 🤬 shooting. In a Walmart in Mississippi

 

Apparently the guy wanted the girl to have an abortion and she didn't want to.  So he shot her.  What a POS.



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Posted 01 August 2019 - 02:38 AM

 

Apparently the guy wanted the girl to have an abortion and she didn't want to.  So he shot her.  What a POS.

 

 

 

This better be true, or you should be banned for being full of shit.



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Posted 01 August 2019 - 04:09 AM


 
Apparently the guy wanted the girl to have an abortion and she didn't want to.  So he shot her.  What a POS.
 

 
 
This better be true, or you should be banned for being full of shit.

Wtf are you talking about?

What girl?

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Posted 01 August 2019 - 04:51 AM

All this talk about building a wall to keep people out when the most dangerous people are already here in the United States lol.



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Posted 01 August 2019 - 08:59 AM

 

 

Apparently the guy wanted the girl to have an abortion and she didn't want to.  So he shot her.  What a POS.

 

 

 

This better be true, or you should be banned for being full of shit.

 

 

I said apparently.

 

https://nypost.com/2...s-child-report/



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Posted 01 August 2019 - 11:26 AM

First of all, Nypost is a tabloid and I'm not sure why you keep bringing them up.

Second of all, that obviously isn't the wallmart shooting in missisipi that was mentioned, that you quoted as a response.

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Posted 01 August 2019 - 11:36 AM

First of all, Nypost is a tabloid and I'm not sure why you keep bringing them up.

Second of all, that obviously isn't the wallmart shooting in missisipi that was mentioned, that you quoted as a response.

 

https://www.washingt...abortion-report

 

Sorry, I must've confused the two.  Doesn't take away the fact that this still happened.